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#openstack-sdks - 2018-10-15
16:18:23 samueldmq I don't care about being too clever, just use the basic things (get a server up)
16:18:32 samueldmq and that's all shade is about right
16:22:26 samueldmq mordred: I don't think we have a clear picture of what goes in abstraction layer and what doesn't in terms of depth in the resources
16:23:21 samueldmq I get confused whether we want to have a one handle'em all abstraction layer, or really the most important/common
16:23:24 samueldmq "Clouds can do many many many things - but there are probably only about 10 of them that most people care about with any regularity."
16:24:15 mordred samueldmq: yah. I agree - it's definitely unclear
16:25:17 mordred samueldmq: how I've been thinking about it recently is to try to make the Resource layer be similar to the _normalize_* methods from shade - so that we can have objects that are returned with consistent field names no matter which api you're using
16:26:00 samueldmq mordred: sure for that part yes, I agree 100%
16:26:01 mordred and then have shade have the "10 things more people care about" methods - and the sdk/proxy layer have the more service-oriented specific methods
16:27:03 mordred so - like with that image patch as an example - there are methods in the proxy layer for image.v1.upload_image and image.v2.upload_image and block_storage.v2.create_image_from_volume - but in the shade layer there's still just 'create_image' that just works
16:28:50 samueldmq mordred: that makes total sense
16:29:38 samueldmq what I was saying is that we should watch for how deep we go in representing resources. we might be normalizing to attributes that require not basic usage, let's keep abstraction layer simple
16:30:22 samueldmq mordred: what if the user could define what their resources look like by defining their own aliases. does that make sense at all?
16:31:39 samueldmq my rationale is that simple may vary from user to user,
16:33:56 samueldmq maybe that's not the best api design. can be crazy to maintain
16:35:41 mordred samueldmq: hrm. it's an interesting thought ... but I think maybe what I'm thinking is somewhere in the middle
16:36:31 mordred like, since Resource does magic with __getattribute__ anyway - we should be able to make any attribute of the original json from the service accessible?
16:36:44 samueldmq what if I inherit Munch in MunchWithAliases
16:37:11 samueldmq hmm yes that's the same concept
16:38:13 samueldmq if I do print(network) it gives me {"provider_physical_network": True}, but I can access with
16:38:42 samueldmq network['provider_physical_network'] == network['provider:physical_network'] == network.provider_physical_network
16:53:59 samueldmq mordred: yes you're right, https://github.com/openstack/openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/object_store/v1/container.py#L42
16:54:19 samueldmq Resource can do that for us, with a single alias, but should be enoguh for now
17:54:41 mordred samueldmq: \o/
18:05:00 openstackgerrit Corey Bryant proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Change python3.5 job to python3.7 job on Stein+ https://review.openstack.org/610685
18:22:16 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove all the deprecated stuff https://review.openstack.org/605508
18:22:17 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Start shifting cloud object-store methods to proxy https://review.openstack.org/608317
18:22:17 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Make it clear that OpenStackCloud is a mixin https://review.openstack.org/608318
18:22:18 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Revert the Proxy metaclass https://review.openstack.org/609747
18:22:18 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Rearrange shade image code https://review.openstack.org/609683
18:22:19 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: WIP Use proxy layer in shade networks https://review.openstack.org/610624
18:38:52 openstackgerrit Maxime Guyot proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Update Auro cloud profile https://review.openstack.org/610699
19:04:30 openstackgerrit Maxime Guyot proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Update ElastX cloud profile https://review.openstack.org/610704
19:09:54 openstackgerrit Maxime Guyot proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Update ElastX cloud profile https://review.openstack.org/610704
22:07:44 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Handle not having cinderclient.v1 available https://review.openstack.org/609473
22:15:38 mordred Shrews: if you're bored, the stack ending at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609683 is green now
22:38:05 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: DNM Testing magnum gate fix https://review.openstack.org/610744
22:50:45 openstackgerrit Filippo Inzaghi proposed openstack/cliff master: Change python3.5 job to python3.7 job on Stein+ https://review.openstack.org/610746
22:50:57 openstackgerrit Filippo Inzaghi proposed openstack/openstackclient master: Change python3.5 job to python3.7 job on Stein+ https://review.openstack.org/610748
22:52:26 openstackgerrit Filippo Inzaghi proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Change python3.5 job to python3.7 job on Stein+ https://review.openstack.org/610749
22:52:41 openstackgerrit Filippo Inzaghi proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Change python3.5 job to python3.7 job on Stein+ https://review.openstack.org/610751
#openstack-sdks - 2018-10-16
03:17:27 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Turn down stevedore and urllib logging https://review.openstack.org/604515
09:36:38 openstackgerrit Tobias Rydberg proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Adding two new regions and dynamic auth_url based on region name. https://review.openstack.org/610919
09:49:41 openstackgerrit Tobias Rydberg proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Adding two new regions and dynamic auth_url based on region name. https://review.openstack.org/610921
10:13:31 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Update Auro cloud profile https://review.openstack.org/610699
10:17:55 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Update ElastX cloud profile https://review.openstack.org/610704
11:44:23 dtantsur mordred: morning! when you have some time, I could use your opinion on https://review.openstack.org/603427
11:44:43 dtantsur note that it does not take the TaskManager into account yet, I'd wait for its implementation to settle
12:16:25 openstackgerrit Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Convert inspect_machine to use the baremetal proxy https://review.openstack.org/610941
12:47:53 mordred dtantsur: hrm. reading through 603427 - it makes me think more that maybe we really should push the fair-locking based task manager replacement down in to keystoneauth (I was waffling about it earlier)- since the retriable status code logic is down in the Session, if we want that to honor a rate limit setting, we'd need it to know about it
12:49:26 dtantsur mordred: well, keystoneauth could certainly benefit from (optional) rate limiting logic
12:51:24 Luzi I already talked about this on the ML: We want to propose Image encryption for OpenStack, which would also affect osc. And we are gathering thought on which library to use: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-for-image-encryption-and-decryption
12:51:38 Luzi It would be nice, to have some input from your side :)
12:52:22 mordred dtantsur: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605043/1 :)
12:53:36 openstackgerrit Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Move wait_for_baremetal_node_lock to the baremetal proxy https://review.openstack.org/610946
12:53:41 dtantsur w00t
12:53:57 dtantsur meanwhile, I continue polishing the bare metal stuff in OpenStackCloud ^^^
12:54:13 dtantsur mordred: do you expect another release before 1.0? I guess I'll end up with a lot of deprecations..
12:55:18 mordred dtantsur: yeah - I think we need to do at least one just to see what we might have missed/broken
12:55:31 mordred dtantsur: the current master branch is ... large :)
12:55:40 dtantsur right :)
12:55:46 mordred eandersson: \o/ THANK YOU for fixing the magnum jobs
13:06:17 Shrews mordred: approved the stack
13:07:18 mordred Shrews: \o/
13:08:44 mordred Shrews: if you're still in the mood, dtantsur has a good patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603427
13:10:31 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add stackviz processing to functional tests https://review.openstack.org/610167
13:10:42 mordred dtantsur: added comment ^
13:10:52 dtantsur thnx
13:14:29 samueldmq morning
13:14:46 samueldmq is the glance task import a v2 only thing or does it exist in v1?
13:21:27 mordred samueldmq: only v2
13:21:47 mordred samueldmq: v1 had PUT content upload- and also had import-from-url which 2 doesn't have
13:21:54 samueldmq mordred: thanks, that one is a very special case. I haven't seen that in the clouds I tested though
13:22:17 samueldmq mordred: kk but we don't do import-from-url for v1
13:23:03 samueldmq we could technically try via put directly and if it fails try the task workflow when using v2
13:23:10 mordred samueldmq: that's right - I never added it because it wasn't in v2 - so there was no way to add it consistently across both
13:23:24 samueldmq so that one didn't have to set use_task_api in the config... but as I haven't seen that anywhere... /me shrugs
13:23:38 mordred samueldmq: yes - I was thinking the same thing
13:23:51 mordred samueldmq: and have use_task_api as a config option to avoid the call to PUT
13:24:12 mordred samueldmq: rackspace and switch are the only clouds I'm aware of that make you use the task api
13:24:13 samueldmq mordred: yes, that wins if set
13:24:27 samueldmq mordred: switch no more. it's using the put api now
13:24:31 mordred samueldmq: we should test which error code we get on a task cloud when you try the put
13:24:34 mordred samueldmq: oh good!
13:24:58 mordred samueldmq: to make sure we can detect it properly
13:26:16 samueldmq mordred: ++
13:38:16 Shrews mordred: what is your plan for using the stackviz output? what problem is it solving for us?
13:39:21 mordred Shrews: looking at it to see which tests take how long ... there's also supposed to be overlaid dstat output which seems to be not working atm
13:40:17 mordred Shrews: also - it's sort of an exploration about using that stackviz stuff for non-tempest runs - and it seems like it's going great
13:40:41 Shrews so the goal is to optimize our test suite?
13:41:32 mordred Shrews: yeah - or at least to be able to see if there are any problem children
13:42:04 mordred Shrews: also, from poking at this, in theory we could add dstat and stackviz to the unittests base job and wire it up such that we always produce the report for all stestr-based jobs
13:42:14 mordred but that, of course, is out of scope of this patch :)
13:43:38 Shrews k k
14:06:01 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Decouple OpenStackCloud from Connection https://review.openstack.org/610981
14:06:06 mordred Shrews: ^^ there ya go
14:12:29 samueldmq what's the typical error code when quota is not enough?
14:13:26 mordred Shrews, dtantsur, samueldmq: was thinking, as you can likely see, that clarkb was right and that making shade.OpenStackCloud subclass from openstack.Connection may have been a mistake. Instead, just freezing shade at its current point in time so that shade users can happily not get messed with
14:13:35 mordred samueldmq: oh golly - no clue :)
14:14:13 samueldmq mordred: :(

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