| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2025-06-24 | |||
| 16:43:42 | Uggla | It seems gmann is not opposed to the change, which is a good sign. | |
| 16:44:26 | andreykurilin | I’m happy to commit some resources to cover more than is needed for my company, if you want, but not sure that I have enough resources to work on a big spec | |
| 16:45:00 | Uggla | I think the question is if we are ok to fix it as bug | |
| 16:46:32 | Uggla | sean-k-mooney any thought about that ? | |
| 16:47:42 | sean-k-mooney | i dont consider it a bug in teh backport sense. we could treat it as an RFE bug i.e. a bug with the rfe tag instead of a specless bluepirnt | |
| 16:48:23 | sean-k-mooney | i would suggest that if we want to do somethign this clcye we keep it small and targeted | |
| 16:48:45 | sean-k-mooney | and we can dicuss larger changes but in the context of next cycle | |
| 16:49:03 | sean-k-mooney | just being practical we hae several large api serises in flight | |
| 16:49:32 | sean-k-mooney | openapi scemea, service role and manger role | |
| 16:50:00 | sean-k-mooney | we may be ableo to review a targed patch but if you want to do many endpoint we will need more time to discss it then we have before m2 | |
| 16:50:08 | Uggla | Tbh, I would rather have a specless BP. Easier to track on my side. | |
| 16:50:23 | andreykurilin | I’m ok to have only one endpoint “fixed” this cycle | |
| 16:50:45 | andreykurilin | Creating a specless BP works for me | |
| 16:50:54 | Uggla | So andreykurilin, if you can open a specless BP so I could track it. | |
| 16:50:55 | sean-k-mooney | then i woudl suggest filing a specless blueprint for server show | |
| 16:51:13 | Uggla | 👍 | |
| 16:51:19 | sean-k-mooney | and then asking for it to be approved on the mailing list or next meeting | |
| 16:51:25 | sean-k-mooney | to give gmaan or other type to respond | |
| 16:51:37 | andreykurilin | Ok, got it. Thank you | |
| 16:51:40 | sean-k-mooney | s/type/time/ | |
| 16:52:03 | gmaan | I am ok for the spec-less BP and agree that it does not need microversion | |
| 16:52:17 | sean-k-mooney | im ok with that direction too | |
| 16:52:27 | sean-k-mooney | just for the metting ^ | |
| 16:52:54 | gmaan | I tried to search history why we did not do for SHOW server when doing for details and could not find any reason | |
| 16:53:04 | gmaan | it was just not needed by anyone till now | |
| 16:53:52 | andreykurilin | It was “workaroundable”. We lived with list + id filter for several years already and finally I found time to ask you guys about this | |
| 16:54:07 | gmaan | ++, thanks for bringing that | |
| 16:54:14 | Uggla | andreykurilin++ | |
| 16:55:20 | Uggla | moving on to next topic. | |
| 16:55:25 | Uggla | #topic (ratailor) spec and implementation for show-instance-action-finish-time (https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp/show-instance-action-finish-time%22) | |
| 16:55:40 | Uggla | ratailor please go ahead. | |
| 16:56:08 | ratailor | As the implementation is also completed, just a request to provide feedback on spec so that it gets merged before FF. | |
| 16:56:17 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for server IPs APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/937608 | |
| 16:57:48 | ratailor | That's all from my side re this. | |
| 16:58:30 | sean-k-mooney | ratailor: do you have tempest coverage showing that this works ? | |
| 16:59:04 | sean-k-mooney | specificly it would be nice to see the test that orginally demponstrated this did not work passing | |
| 16:59:23 | ratailor | sean-k-mooney, don't have tempest tests yet, but I can try to submit chagne for that. | |
| 16:59:40 | ratailor | sean-k-mooney, yes, sure. I will try with that one. | |
| 16:59:40 | sean-k-mooney | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/905130 | |
| 17:00:04 | sean-k-mooney | it woudl be nice to update that and have it depend on your seriese to show ti workign end to end | |
| 17:00:31 | ratailor | sean-k-mooney, sure. Thansk! | |
| 17:00:37 | Uggla | sean-k-mooney, I agree it might also help on an escalation we have internaly | |
| 17:03:11 | Uggla | We have 2 more topics, but we are also at the top of the hour. So gibi, jonnyb if you don't mind we would be able to discuss next week. Except if it's urgent. | |
| 17:03:26 | jonnyb | hi, fine for me | |
| 17:03:36 | Uggla | jonnyb, thx for your understanding | |
| 17:03:44 | Uggla | gibi ? | |
| 17:04:14 | sean-k-mooney | jonnyb: you wanted to add a tiny weigher right? | |
| 17:04:25 | jonnyb | yeah right | |
| 17:04:50 | sean-k-mooney | if you have the patch it woudl be good for other to at least condier it before the next meeting | |
| 17:04:59 | sean-k-mooney | or perhaps start a mailing list thread on the topic | |
| 17:05:16 | sean-k-mooney | tl;dr is it weighs host by how old they are | |
| 17:05:23 | sean-k-mooney | and prefers the newer ones | |
| 17:05:43 | jonnyb | its a pretty simple patch | |
| 17:05:48 | sean-k-mooney | which is similer but differnt to the hyperviors_version weigher and they both complement each other | |
| 17:06:24 | sean-k-mooney | im generally ok with this as a specless blueprint by the way but we can disscuss that outside teh meeting or next week | |
| 17:07:02 | gibi | Uggla: no worries my topic was touched during the eventlet block | |
| 17:07:14 | jonnyb | I can move this to the mailing list to not drag this out here. thanks | |
| 17:07:48 | Uggla | jonnyb, that will be ok next week, I guess it will not take long. | |
| 17:07:58 | Uggla | anyway time to close. | |
| 17:08:03 | Uggla | Thanks all | |
| 17:08:16 | Uggla | #endmeeting | |
| 17:08:16 | opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Jun 24 17:08:16 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | |
| 17:08:16 | opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-06-24-16.01.html | |
| 17:08:16 | opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-06-24-16.01.txt | |
| 17:08:16 | opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-06-24-16.01.log.html | |
| 17:30:08 | gibi | sorry I mixed up my topic | |
| 17:30:14 | gibi | we need to discuss https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952966 | |
| 17:30:38 | gibi | this is pretty much needed by debian and ubuntu to be able to release on top of 3.13 while cpython 3.13 fixing a GC bug | |
| 17:30:49 | gibi | so I need core reviews, pretty please | |
| #openstack-nova - 2025-06-25 | |||
| 02:27:01 | opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Add new policies for live migrate APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953063 | |
| 02:27:30 | opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Add project manager role in Nova API policy rule https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/941347 | |
| 07:37:36 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop unused method https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/927680 | |
| 08:06:02 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Address issues with server group APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953281 | |
| 08:31:01 | opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix neutron client dict grabbing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952966 | |
| 08:35:54 | gibi | dansmith sean-k-mooney thanks for the review on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952966 I did a bit of simplification and added a comment. Please check it when you are around | |
| 08:37:15 | opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix neutron client dict grabbing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952966 | |
| 08:54:26 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Address issues with remote consoles APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952213 | |
| 11:29:12 | opendevreview | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: [DNM] testing py3.13 eventlet bug workaround https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/951749 | |
| 12:15:39 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: by the way ^ some how seams to be triggering issues with mysql, rather then using pyenv i think i need to enabel the deadsnakes ppa or try a diffent approch to get 3.13 working | |
| 12:16:05 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: how did you test with 3.13 locally | |
| 12:20:33 | gibi | I tested it with py312, jkulik tested it with 3.13. I don't have a 3.13 devstack env. | |
| 12:21:16 | gibi | I only tested the small change in isoltion with py313 about the dict grabbing | |
| 12:21:33 | gibi | we can also ask zigo to test it :) | |
| 12:22:09 | sean-k-mooney | im ok with merging it without full 3.13 testing provided it works on older verion as it clean up the code in general | |
| 12:22:24 | sean-k-mooney | i was just wondering how to pivot my WIP patch | |
| 12:22:47 | zigo | You'd need the latest version of eventlet, plus maybe a fix for https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/135552 then hopefully, we can spawn VMs ... :P | |
| 12:22:52 | sean-k-mooney | i was condierign using either UV to try and provide a python env in the hope that avoid teh mysql issue ro deadsnake ppa | |
| 12:23:09 | sean-k-mooney | althernitivly i coudl try using a diffent distor for my 3.13 poc job | |
| 12:24:31 | gibi | zigo: I guess you are grabbing this fix from nova until the py3.13 GC bug is fixed upstream in cpython. So I guess if it works for you then that is good enough for us. | |
| 12:25:15 | zigo | I didn't have time to work on OpenStack on Trixie (ie: Debian 13 and Python 1.13) for a week or so. | |
| 12:25:20 | zigo | I intend to resume that work again. | |
| 12:25:29 | zigo | I currently still can't tell what works or not. | |
| 12:25:41 | zigo | At least I was able to spawn *one* VM, but that's all I can say. | |
| 12:25:48 | zigo | Maybe other stuff are broken too. | |
| 12:26:03 | zigo | I wont be able to tell until I run the full tempest set of tests. | |
| 12:26:15 | gibi | zigo: thanks. I appreciate all the effor you do and the feeback you provide to us | |
| 12:28:58 | zigo | Whenever I can, I'll push my CI up to end and report in the list my findings. | |
| 12:33:49 | gibi | thanks | |
| 12:48:03 | opendevreview | Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Replace eventlet.event.Event with threading.Event https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/949754 | |
| 14:27:29 | opendevreview | Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Replace eventlet.event.Event with threading.Event https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/949754 | |