| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2025-05-13 | |||
| 16:38:25 | bauzas | yup so then I specless works for me | |
| 16:38:27 | sean-k-mooney | we proably shoudl test it in nova-next | |
| 16:38:28 | gibi | opt-in works for me | |
| 16:38:39 | Uggla | ok so go for spec less | |
| 16:38:47 | bauzas | that's an easy enablement knob | |
| 16:38:55 | fwiesel | Perfect, saves me some work. | |
| 16:39:10 | sean-k-mooney | fwiesel: can you create a bluepirnt for this to tack it and detail that it will be off by default | |
| 16:39:29 | sean-k-mooney | unless you already have one? | |
| 16:39:37 | fwiesel | sean-k-mooney: will do. I haven't yet. | |
| 16:39:43 | Uggla | fwiesel, and ping me, so I would add it to the tracking doc. | |
| 16:39:57 | fwiesel | Uggla: Will do | |
| 16:40:02 | Uggla | thx | |
| 16:40:44 | Uggla | anything else to discuss, if not we can triage some bugs. | |
| 16:40:52 | sean-k-mooney | i have one quick item | |
| 16:41:06 | Uggla | shoot | |
| 16:41:13 | sean-k-mooney | so last week i asked frickler i think to update the channel topic if Uggla aggreed | |
| 16:41:32 | sean-k-mooney | which has now been done but they pointed out that we coudl also add ops to the channle https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/commit/50197dce1589385b1256150bcd082093cf7e8898/accessbot/channels.yaml#L239 | |
| 16:41:38 | sean-k-mooney | nova currently does nto have any | |
| 16:41:49 | gibi | lets add some :) | |
| 16:41:53 | sean-k-mooney | do we want to do that so we can update the topic ectra our selves | |
| 16:41:54 | bauzas | I was thinking Dan was +o | |
| 16:42:08 | sean-k-mooney | dan might have it form something else | |
| 16:42:17 | sean-k-mooney | but we dont ahve anyone lised in the file today | |
| 16:42:25 | Uggla | I looked at it only gmaan if I recall well. | |
| 16:42:47 | bauzas | fair | |
| 16:42:49 | sean-k-mooney | shall i create a patch to do it? and if so who should we add | |
| 16:42:53 | dansmith | I was pretty sure I had ops at one point | |
| 16:42:54 | gmaan | I can do | |
| 16:43:02 | gmaan | I think I still have ops | |
| 16:43:05 | sean-k-mooney | Uggla: im also ok to delgate doign that to someone else | |
| 16:43:12 | bauzas | I could add french jokes to the chan title | |
| 16:43:45 | bauzas | but hey the PTL should have rights | |
| 16:44:21 | gmaan | I have from global ops, ++ to add nova specific also | |
| 16:44:26 | Uggla | sean-k-mooney, I can create this patch no worries. | |
| 16:44:36 | sean-k-mooney | Uggla: cool that all then | |
| 16:44:50 | sean-k-mooney | i just wanted to make sure we could udate the topic when needed | |
| 16:44:55 | Uggla | who wants to be ops ? | |
| 16:45:08 | bauzas | you should be | |
| 16:45:13 | gmaan | do we also need to update topic now or all good for now? | |
| 16:45:27 | Uggla | gmaan, topic is ok atm. | |
| 16:45:31 | gmaan | k | |
| 16:45:38 | sean-k-mooney | gmaan: it should be good now | |
| 16:45:51 | sean-k-mooney | the only thing that need to change was the status url | |
| 16:46:06 | gmaan | ++ | |
| 16:46:20 | sean-k-mooney | it was pointing to https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.1-status until last week | |
| 16:46:37 | sean-k-mooney | Uggla: that shoudl also proably get added to the nova PTL guide | |
| 16:46:43 | sean-k-mooney | as a thing to do at the start of each cycle | |
| 16:46:54 | Uggla | sean-k-mooney, ++ | |
| 16:46:57 | bauzas | yup | |
| 16:47:03 | bauzas | good idea | |
| 16:47:22 | Uggla | #action Update ptl guide to mention topic update | |
| 16:47:23 | sean-k-mooney | we have about 12 minutes left. want to traige a bug or two | |
| 16:47:33 | Uggla | yep | |
| 16:47:40 | Uggla | #topic Bug scrubbing | |
| 16:47:49 | Uggla | #link: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-selection-for-triaging#L4 | |
| 16:48:25 | Uggla | First one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2106500 | |
| 16:48:59 | Uggla | I'm not sure we are concerns by this one. | |
| 16:49:52 | Uggla | That looks more a packaging pb. | |
| 16:50:54 | gibi | graceful shutdown issue maybe | |
| 16:51:16 | sean-k-mooney | im not sure that we shold be providing log rotate config | |
| 16:51:49 | sean-k-mooney | actully | |
| 16:51:51 | sean-k-mooney | https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/etc/nova | |
| 16:51:57 | sean-k-mooney | i dont think we ar | |
| 16:52:00 | sean-k-mooney | *are | |
| 16:52:11 | sean-k-mooney | so this may be a packaging issue yes | |
| 16:52:45 | sean-k-mooney | os it proably shoudl be marked invalid in nova but left open for the nova ubuntu package | |
| 16:53:13 | Uggla | I propose to answer in that way and set the bug to incomplete. Sounds good ? | |
| 16:53:51 | sean-k-mooney | so i would put it to invalid personally | |
| 16:54:02 | sean-k-mooney | we do not provide a logroate script in our repo | |
| 16:54:09 | sean-k-mooney | i think this is part of the debian package | |
| 16:54:10 | fwiesel | Uggla: Here is the blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-migrate-parallel | |
| 16:54:19 | Uggla | fwiesel, thx | |
| 16:54:29 | Uggla | sean-k-mooney, ok that works for me. | |
| 16:54:34 | Uggla | next one: | |
| 16:54:46 | Uggla | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103413 | |
| 16:56:47 | gibi | do we officially support 3.13? | |
| 16:56:52 | Uggla | We are not supporting 3.13 yet. | |
| 16:56:53 | sean-k-mooney | no yet | |
| 16:57:04 | sean-k-mooney | its part of the experimantal runtime for this release | |
| 16:57:11 | sean-k-mooney | and offically should be supported in 2026.1 | |
| 16:57:13 | gmaan | not yet but we should start testing it as it can be mandatory for next cycle | |
| 16:57:17 | gmaan | yeah | |
| 16:57:22 | sean-k-mooney | however ubuntu 25.04 is already using it | |
| 16:57:35 | sean-k-mooney | and its an issue for debian 13 also i think | |
| 16:57:37 | gibi | it is probably yet another eventlet issue we might or might not able to patch | |
| 16:57:47 | sean-k-mooney | eventlet is curently broken on it in general | |
| 16:57:56 | Uggla | and also it might be linked to gibi's work on eventlet. | |
| 16:58:23 | sean-k-mooney | only by name | |
| 16:58:33 | gibi | the eventlet work will not be finished in F so if in G we need to support 3.13 then we are in the pickle | |
| 16:58:47 | sean-k-mooney | so if someone knwo how to make it work on 3.13 and can propose a fix | |
| 16:59:07 | sean-k-mooney | then we shoudl review it and conside rbackporting to enable debian based distros to supprot epoxy | |
| 16:59:16 | sean-k-mooney | but its not offically supproted there so its best effort | |
| 16:59:49 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: well i know that eventlet on 3.13 has issues with the threadid | |
| 17:00:09 | sean-k-mooney | as in its ment to patch the thread id so that it returns the greenthread id instead | |
| 17:00:10 | gibi | this seems to be a GC + eventlet issue | |
| 17:00:13 | sean-k-mooney | and thats not workign properly | |
| 17:00:21 | gibi | I would not bet on an easy fix | |
| 17:00:32 | gibi | not in F. | |
| 17:00:41 | gibi | in G we might be able to get rid of eventlet :) | |
| 17:00:57 | sean-k-mooney | that one way to fix the issue :) | |