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#openstack-nova - 2025-05-13
16:45:27 Uggla gmaan, topic is ok atm.
16:45:31 gmaan k
16:45:38 sean-k-mooney gmaan: it should be good now
16:45:51 sean-k-mooney the only thing that need to change was the status url
16:46:06 gmaan ++
16:46:20 sean-k-mooney it was pointing to https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.1-status until last week
16:46:37 sean-k-mooney Uggla: that shoudl also proably get added to the nova PTL guide
16:46:43 sean-k-mooney as a thing to do at the start of each cycle
16:46:54 Uggla sean-k-mooney, ++
16:46:57 bauzas yup
16:47:03 bauzas good idea
16:47:22 Uggla #action Update ptl guide to mention topic update
16:47:23 sean-k-mooney we have about 12 minutes left. want to traige a bug or two
16:47:33 Uggla yep
16:47:40 Uggla #topic Bug scrubbing
16:47:49 Uggla #link: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-selection-for-triaging#L4
16:48:25 Uggla First one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2106500
16:48:59 Uggla I'm not sure we are concerns by this one.
16:49:52 Uggla That looks more a packaging pb.
16:50:54 gibi graceful shutdown issue maybe
16:51:16 sean-k-mooney im not sure that we shold be providing log rotate config
16:51:49 sean-k-mooney actully
16:51:51 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/etc/nova
16:51:57 sean-k-mooney i dont think we ar
16:52:00 sean-k-mooney *are
16:52:11 sean-k-mooney so this may be a packaging issue yes
16:52:45 sean-k-mooney os it proably shoudl be marked invalid in nova but left open for the nova ubuntu package
16:53:13 Uggla I propose to answer in that way and set the bug to incomplete. Sounds good ?
16:53:51 sean-k-mooney so i would put it to invalid personally
16:54:02 sean-k-mooney we do not provide a logroate script in our repo
16:54:09 sean-k-mooney i think this is part of the debian package
16:54:10 fwiesel Uggla: Here is the blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-migrate-parallel
16:54:19 Uggla fwiesel, thx
16:54:29 Uggla sean-k-mooney, ok that works for me.
16:54:34 Uggla next one:
16:54:46 Uggla https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103413
16:56:47 gibi do we officially support 3.13?
16:56:52 Uggla We are not supporting 3.13 yet.
16:56:53 sean-k-mooney no yet
16:57:04 sean-k-mooney its part of the experimantal runtime for this release
16:57:11 sean-k-mooney and offically should be supported in 2026.1
16:57:13 gmaan not yet but we should start testing it as it can be mandatory for next cycle
16:57:17 gmaan yeah
16:57:22 sean-k-mooney however ubuntu 25.04 is already using it
16:57:35 sean-k-mooney and its an issue for debian 13 also i think
16:57:37 gibi it is probably yet another eventlet issue we might or might not able to patch
16:57:47 sean-k-mooney eventlet is curently broken on it in general
16:57:56 Uggla and also it might be linked to gibi's work on eventlet.
16:58:23 sean-k-mooney only by name
16:58:33 gibi the eventlet work will not be finished in F so if in G we need to support 3.13 then we are in the pickle
16:58:47 sean-k-mooney so if someone knwo how to make it work on 3.13 and can propose a fix
16:59:07 sean-k-mooney then we shoudl review it and conside rbackporting to enable debian based distros to supprot epoxy
16:59:16 sean-k-mooney but its not offically supproted there so its best effort
16:59:49 sean-k-mooney gibi: well i know that eventlet on 3.13 has issues with the threadid
17:00:09 sean-k-mooney as in its ment to patch the thread id so that it returns the greenthread id instead
17:00:10 gibi this seems to be a GC + eventlet issue
17:00:13 sean-k-mooney and thats not workign properly
17:00:21 gibi I would not bet on an easy fix
17:00:32 gibi not in F.
17:00:41 gibi in G we might be able to get rid of eventlet :)
17:00:57 sean-k-mooney that one way to fix the issue :)
17:01:08 gibi that is the only way I want to bet on :)
17:01:36 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/1030
17:01:49 sean-k-mooney so this was the issue i was aware of that was the blocker for nova on 3.13
17:01:56 sean-k-mooney you dont actully need nova to trigger it
17:02:03 sean-k-mooney but it happens for nova too
17:02:29 sean-k-mooney ah and https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/1032
17:02:34 sean-k-mooney is the issue we are talking about
17:03:06 sean-k-mooney so we might want to mark it incomplete or invalid and refnrence that https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/1032
17:03:22 sean-k-mooney basicaly eventlet needs to supprot 3.13 before we can
17:03:31 Uggla yep I can explain the situation in the ticket.
17:03:35 gibi OK
17:03:57 JayF Those issues getting fixed were blocked by CI + some administrivia in that repo which I think are resolved now.
17:04:34 masahito sorry for the slow reply for the 1st bug. the attach volume API makes 2 RPC from nova-api to nova-compute, 1st one is call RPC and 2nd one is cast RPC. if the nova-api gets failed between the 2 rpc, garbage block device information remaining.
17:04:54 masahito (I think it's okay to talk the details later.)
17:05:24 Uggla there is also a status deferred for the ticket
17:06:01 Uggla Are you ok to do one more bug ?
17:06:49 sean-k-mooney sure
17:06:56 Uggla https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103413
17:07:17 sean-k-mooney that seams to be mostly the same thing?
17:07:53 sean-k-mooney wiat its exaclty the same bug
17:08:23 sean-k-mooney Uggla: did you mean to post a differnt url?
17:08:23 gibi then we are done :)
17:08:23 Uggla https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103513
17:08:39 Uggla sorry wrong copy pasta
17:09:05 gibi I have no clue about TLS spice
17:09:57 sean-k-mooney so i dont know if nova actully supprot this yet
17:10:13 sean-k-mooney i remember talking about this in the recent spci enabling
17:10:14 Uggla what it is on dalmatian
17:10:32 sean-k-mooney right but im not sure if that is expected to work even on master
17:10:38 Uggla oh
17:10:46 sean-k-mooney it might
17:10:56 sean-k-mooney but i dont belilve we have tempest testing of it currently
17:11:08 sean-k-mooney we only recnetly readded spice testing last cycle
17:11:16 sean-k-mooney after not having any tempest testing with it for years
17:11:29 sean-k-mooney lets loop back to this again next week
17:11:52 sean-k-mooney and maybe ask mikal about it
17:12:02 Uggla ok that sounds good.
17:12:33 Uggla At least I can right a comment about it.
17:12:44 Uggla that's all for today.

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