| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2023-10-10 | |||
| 16:29:33 | sean-k-mooney | so given this dicussion i would say not a specless blueprint | |
| 16:29:40 | sean-k-mooney | spec or ptg discussion | |
| 16:29:41 | dansmith | right | |
| 16:30:48 | sean-k-mooney | i think the fucntionaliyt is possible today withthe placement approch so i would question why we dont remove the filter | |
| 16:30:59 | sean-k-mooney | so i would like to capture the answer to that | |
| 16:31:51 | bauzas | okay, let's say this | |
| 16:31:57 | bauzas | I'll tell this to sahid tomorrow | |
| 16:32:12 | bauzas | and he could explain why he still wants to use filters | |
| 16:32:20 | bauzas | (IMHO like I said, backports) | |
| 16:32:39 | bauzas | do all agree ? | |
| 16:32:44 | sean-k-mooney | backports are a downstream problem | |
| 16:33:01 | bauzas | sure, but this is easier with a python module like a filter, right?. | |
| 16:33:03 | sean-k-mooney | that is not a good reason to extend it upstream unless its useful upstream | |
| 16:33:21 | bauzas | sure, we need to discuss the usecases | |
| 16:33:33 | bauzas | but I'm not in favor of removing every single filter we have | |
| 16:33:44 | dansmith | agree | |
| 16:33:44 | bauzas | some operators still run filters on their choices | |
| 16:34:17 | bauzas | anyway, let's punt this until PTG or when sahid can join us | |
| 16:34:26 | dansmith | we have the prefilter for isolation, which uses placement's aggregates to do some isolation, but I'll have to revisit my understanding of the differences | |
| 16:34:31 | bauzas | #agreed defer this agreement to the next PTG | |
| 16:34:49 | bauzas | I'll add a topic in the PTG etherpad | |
| 16:34:55 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: we deveoped that prefilter to eventurlly remove this one | |
| 16:36:07 | sean-k-mooney | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/rocky/implemented/placement-req-filter.html#proposed-change | |
| 16:36:43 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: well, for CPUFilter, I totally agree with removing it | |
| 16:36:47 | sean-k-mooney | this was the first prefilter that you wote many moons ago | |
| 16:37:24 | bauzas | I'm just saying that for non-allocatable filters (placing things) we may leave those if those are cheap to maintain | |
| 16:37:41 | sean-k-mooney | right but this filter is know to be problematic | |
| 16:37:42 | bauzas | because this is a python module and not another SQL query | |
| 16:37:54 | sean-k-mooney | so i realy dont think this is a good example ot extned | |
| 16:37:55 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: I know, but I think there were limitations | |
| 16:38:18 | bauzas | anyway, we punted the potential agreement to the next PTG | |
| 16:38:21 | dansmith | I thought we agreed to punt until PTG ? | |
| 16:38:22 | dansmith | yeah | |
| 16:38:30 | bauzas | so let's stop for now | |
| 16:38:40 | sean-k-mooney | sure | |
| 16:38:40 | bauzas | and I'll give you all extra 20 mins of your time | |
| 16:38:42 | bauzas | thanks all | |
| 16:38:52 | bauzas | any other item before we close ? | |
| 16:39:07 | sean-k-mooney | i just wanted to highlight i reporposed the healtcheck spec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/897225 | |
| 16:39:16 | bauzas | oh right, I've seen it | |
| 16:39:20 | sean-k-mooney | so if we can reappove that it would be good | |
| 16:39:22 | bauzas | I just need to look at it | |
| 16:39:25 | sean-k-mooney | ack | |
| 16:39:41 | sean-k-mooney | thats all from me | |
| 16:39:43 | bauzas | tuesdays are usually upstream days for me, but I was vamped into some crazy internal thing | |
| 16:39:57 | bauzas | anyway, ending now | |
| 16:40:00 | bauzas | thanks all | |
| 16:40:04 | bauzas | #endmeeting | |
| 16:40:04 | opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 16:40:04 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | |
| 16:40:04 | opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-10-10-16.00.html | |
| 16:40:04 | opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-10-10-16.00.txt | |
| 16:40:04 | opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-10-10-16.00.log.html | |
| 16:40:33 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: if your looking at repoposals then https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/895924 would be alos nice to look at | |
| 16:40:46 | bauzas | yeah I need to do reviews | |
| 16:40:59 | bauzas | my gerrit nova-specs dashboard misses me | |
| 16:42:13 | opendevreview | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Compile mdev samples for nova-next https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/897708 | |
| 16:42:24 | dansmith | okay locally mtty.ko gets built and inserted during devstack | |
| 16:43:58 | bauzas | <3 | |
| 16:44:47 | bauzas | if I have time tomorrow, I'll work on a nova WIP to change the libvirt driver to use a specific 'virtual' device for mtty | |
| 16:45:02 | bauzas | so we shall be able to test | |
| 16:58:34 | opendevreview | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Compile mdev samples for nova-next https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/897708 | |
| 17:21:36 | dansmith | 2023-10-10 17:19:30.033749 | controller | ++ /opt/stack/nova/devstack/lib/mdev_samples:compile_mdev_samples:28 : grep mdev | |
| 17:21:36 | dansmith | 2023-10-10 17:19:30.055298 | controller | mdev 28672 1 mtty | |
| 17:21:47 | dansmith | \o/ | |
| 17:42:02 | sean-k-mooney | cool | |
| 17:42:23 | sean-k-mooney | we dont do a virsh nodedev-list in the ci logs do we | |
| 17:42:44 | sean-k-mooney | i woudl assume not | |
| 17:54:07 | dansmith | idk, but I just ran that locally and I don't see any mdev stuff in there | |
| 17:54:27 | sean-k-mooney | i think they only show up when you create one | |
| 17:54:33 | sean-k-mooney | its also cached when libvirt starts | |
| 17:54:49 | sean-k-mooney | so if it starts before the module is loaded that could be an issue | |
| 17:54:56 | sean-k-mooney | restarting libvirt clears the cache | |
| 17:56:21 | sean-k-mooney | can you try " echo "83b8f4f2-509f-382f-3c1e-e6bfe0fa1001" > \ | |
| 17:56:24 | sean-k-mooney | /sys/devices/virtual/mtty/mtty/mdev_supported_types/mtty-2/creat""" | |
| 17:57:27 | dansmith | mdev_83b8f4f2_509f_382f_3c1e_e6bfe0fa1001_mtty | |
| 17:57:33 | sean-k-mooney | cool | |
| 17:57:33 | dansmith | looks like it works | |
| 17:57:50 | sean-k-mooney | so nova has two modes of opertation | |
| 17:57:58 | sean-k-mooney | you can either precreate the mdevs and it will use them | |
| 17:58:06 | sean-k-mooney | or it will create tehm if you dont | |
| 17:58:38 | sean-k-mooney | but ya from a qemu/libvirt point of view i think that means its workign | |
| 17:58:51 | dansmith | sweert | |
| 18:03:43 | sean-k-mooney | oh right it was out of tree.. | |
| 18:07:05 | sean-k-mooney | for what its worht this is how you boot a vm in nova with hardware offloaded networkign using mdev before that is merged in qemu/libvirt/the kernel https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/13de00c20477189201f102499cc6451f47765c5c | |
| 18:10:43 | sean-k-mooney | that is not relevent beyond the fact i was checkign how we configured the mdevs and vf via the devstack plugin | |
| 18:10:45 | sean-k-mooney | https://github.com/intel-orchestration-software/networking-vhost-vfio/blob/master/devstack/libs/vhost-vfio#L367-L393 | |
| 18:11:12 | sean-k-mooney | so we just allocated the vf on the defice and created the mdevs dymically in nova | |
| 18:11:33 | sean-k-mooney | so not really relevent in this case since there are no vfs to allcoate | |
| 18:22:15 | tobias-urdin | any good idea's on how one should handle cputune.shares issues on stable releases? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1978489 – last comment in https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/161 aged well "...I think this problematic change is only now starting to hit people" oh yes it will :) | |
| 18:22:15 | tobias-urdin | any good idea's on how one should handle cputune.shares issues on stable releases? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1978489 – last comment in https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/161 aged well "...I think this problematic change is only now starting to hit people" oh yes it will :) | |
| 18:45:25 | sean-k-mooney | we partly fixed this | |
| 18:45:38 | sean-k-mooney | we stopped generating implcit cpu shares in zed i belvie | |
| 18:45:50 | sean-k-mooney | and we basically say dont use the explit ones | |
| 18:46:00 | sean-k-mooney | we have not removed/depreated the feature entirly | |
| 18:46:14 | sean-k-mooney | simply because we have never done that before | |
| 18:46:41 | sean-k-mooney | but perfonslly i would fix it by deprecateing them on master for caracal and delete the feature in D | |
| 18:46:52 | sean-k-mooney | tobias-urdin: proably not waht you want to hear so the more helpful answer is | |
| 18:47:42 | sean-k-mooney | you need to reize today before you upgrade | |
| 18:47:56 | sean-k-mooney | we could also add a nova manage command liek https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/manage.py#L3211 | |
| 18:48:09 | sean-k-mooney | to allow updating the embded flavor extra specs | |