| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2022-07-21 | |||
| 08:09:35 | gibi | bauzas: #3) plan the AA (and BB cycle) | |
| 08:09:56 | bauzas | I'm just creating the etherpad with my notes | |
| 08:09:57 | gibi | bauzas: #4) I'm happy to have an extra day with Ops | |
| 08:10:01 | bauzas | me too | |
| 08:10:17 | gibi | ack, I will update the etherpad too | |
| 08:12:14 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: i am hoping it will be functinal if but not nessisarly on by default in AA | |
| 08:12:47 | bauzas | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ptg-columbus-ops-presence | |
| 08:13:04 | bauzas | gibi: add your points to the agendaz | |
| 08:13:05 | sean-k-mooney | i would potentialy like to see the mdev support evloved to build in pci in placment and the pci track ro move to the resouces table like pmem overtime | |
| 08:13:05 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: yepp I think we still have a chance to have the non neutron part in Zed, and then the neutron part in AA | |
| 08:13:30 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: ack i would personally hold enabling by default until we have parity | |
| 08:13:36 | sean-k-mooney | so likely BB | |
| 08:13:58 | bauzas | tbc, this is a bit premature to know what the topics will be | |
| 08:14:02 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: I agree with keeping off by default until we have full parity | |
| 08:14:56 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: all topic sure but we will have some in the back of our minds | |
| 08:15:15 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: then add them to the etherpad I mentioned | |
| 08:15:27 | bauzas | and I'll summarize those | |
| 08:15:43 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: we ususally have a corss project day on monday should we make that ops and cross project | |
| 08:15:54 | bauzas | keeping in mind most ops are running pre-Train :) | |
| 08:16:09 | bauzas | so most of our semantics are mostly unknown by them :) | |
| 08:16:32 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: looks like there will be a ops day on Friday | |
| 08:17:03 | bauzas | point is, we need a productive PTG | |
| 08:17:04 | sean-k-mooney | i tought the ptg ended thrusday offically | |
| 08:17:12 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: see above | |
| 08:17:21 | sean-k-mooney | October 17-20, 2022 | |
| 08:17:37 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: yes, this would be an extra day, a ops summit day if you prefer | |
| 08:18:16 | sean-k-mooney | ack i was looking at flight if they want to add that they shoudl do it very very soon | |
| 08:18:36 | sean-k-mooney | as some might be plannign to fly back on friday | |
| 08:20:07 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: honestly, I don't look at flights until I get the green light | |
| 08:20:29 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: but you're absolutely free to *not* attend this extra day | |
| 08:20:43 | bauzas | again, see the etherpad | |
| 08:20:47 | sean-k-mooney | if it goies ahead and im there i will | |
| 08:20:55 | bauzas | "If there was an extra day (Friday, October 21 of Operator sessions), would contributors from your team be interested in participating? " | |
| 08:21:12 | sean-k-mooney | but i would annoyed at the foundation if it was added late and could not attend because i had arranged things | |
| 08:21:31 | sean-k-mooney | or had to adjust flights or hotel booking | |
| 08:22:26 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: personaly i think havign the ops session on friday does not make sense | |
| 08:22:35 | sean-k-mooney | if they do that i would prefer to see it on monday | |
| 08:22:50 | sean-k-mooney | and shift the ptg to start on tuesday to friday | |
| 08:22:56 | gibi | yeah I agree, probably we need the general input (Ops, cross project) earlier | |
| 08:23:05 | sean-k-mooney | flight in on moday are cheaper then sunday | |
| 08:23:13 | sean-k-mooney | as are hotels | |
| 08:23:25 | sean-k-mooney | so those that dont plan to attend will have reduced cost | |
| 08:23:38 | bauzas | I personnally feel brave enough to propose some nova agenda intended to be 'ops-understandable' by tuesday | |
| 08:23:47 | sean-k-mooney | it also mean we can get the feedback before our seesion | |
| 08:24:13 | bauzas | and us preventing to go into deep-dive whiteboarding sesssions until wed | |
| 08:24:47 | bauzas | (because yes, this time, we should have a whiteboard :D ) | |
| 08:24:51 | sean-k-mooney | maybe but why tuseday and not monday | |
| 08:24:59 | bauzas | nova-specifics | |
| 08:25:13 | bauzas | having ops only on monday is nice but doesn't help our project | |
| 08:25:29 | bauzas | and if we don't make something to invite them in our room, they won't come | |
| 08:25:36 | sean-k-mooney | ok so you want monday to be crossprojct/tc and general ops | |
| 08:25:43 | bauzas | they could be in the hallways or in another room | |
| 08:25:47 | sean-k-mooney | then tueday ops frieldy but nova specific | |
| 08:25:58 | bauzas | -ish but yeah, you got my idea | |
| 08:26:01 | sean-k-mooney | and deepdive on wednesday and thursday on nova specifics | |
| 08:26:06 | sean-k-mooney | ok | |
| 08:26:17 | bauzas | this is just an idea | |
| 08:26:45 | bauzas | but we need to welcome them and make them sure they'll understand our language if they come | |
| 08:29:24 | sean-k-mooney | yep | |
| 08:29:46 | sean-k-mooney | which also might meen keeping slot free later in the week to be pland based on the hallway track and ops day | |
| 08:33:15 | bauzas | that's why I think we reasonably need a single day ops-friendly | |
| 08:33:28 | bauzas | or rather ops-welcome | |
| 08:33:44 | bauzas | the two other days wouldn't mean ops would be unfriendly | |
| 08:34:09 | bauzas | but we won't refrain ourselves to go into deepdive sessions if we feel we need to | |
| 08:38:38 | sean-k-mooney | ops are always welcome :) | |
| 08:39:06 | sean-k-mooney | well to me the ptg/design summit alwyas had 2 reasons to exist | |
| 08:39:27 | sean-k-mooney | direct feedback form ops/user/project about pain points | |
| 08:39:49 | sean-k-mooney | and brainstorming/deepdiving a problem with all that are interested in it | |
| 08:43:39 | bauzas | yup | |
| 09:10:40 | bauzas | gibi: could you please review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/849133 even if we need to wait for unshelve | |
| 09:10:43 | bauzas | ? | |
| 09:10:52 | gibi | bauzas: ack | |
| 09:10:57 | bauzas | gibi: sean-k-mooney already provided me a +2 | |
| 09:11:13 | sean-k-mooney | you keypair change | |
| 09:11:35 | sean-k-mooney | yes did you update it to disallow space or is that still allowed | |
| 09:11:45 | sean-k-mooney | im ok either way as long as we are intentional about it | |
| 09:11:46 | gibi | bauzas: you will come after auniyal's evac issue and the downstream cpupinning troubleshooting :) | |
| 09:11:53 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: we were accepting the spacs before | |
| 09:12:02 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: ack | |
| 09:12:11 | bauzas | spaces* | |
| 09:12:14 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: cool ill try and review this again today or tomorrow | |
| 09:12:27 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: there is a -W | |
| 09:12:32 | bauzas | because this is a 2.92 | |
| 09:12:39 | sean-k-mooney | ah was just going to ask | |
| 09:12:45 | bauzas | nothing changed from the 2.91 revision | |
| 09:12:55 | bauzas | just I asked for 2.92 | |
| 09:13:08 | sean-k-mooney | ok so this is quede behind which sepc | |
| 09:13:11 | sean-k-mooney | unshleve | |
| 09:13:14 | sean-k-mooney | or tenatn id | |
| 09:13:59 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-zed-microversions-plan | |
| 09:14:06 | bauzas | should be unshelve | |
| 09:15:46 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: do we want to add that to the chagne topic | |
| 09:16:41 | bauzas | which topic, sorry ? | |
| 09:17:13 | sean-k-mooney | the #openstack-nova topic | |
| 09:17:45 | sean-k-mooney | its currently "This channel is for Nova development. For support of Nova deployments, please use #openstack" | |
| 09:17:58 | sean-k-mooney | we used ot have the runway link there | |
| 09:18:09 | sean-k-mooney | we coudl add that if you think it woudl help | |
| 09:18:12 | bauzas | I didn't had time to provide an email yet | |
| 09:18:17 | sean-k-mooney | if not its fine | |
| 09:18:19 | bauzas | but I'll do it | |