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#openstack-nova - 2022-07-20
13:43:24 sean-k-mooney yes
13:43:36 sean-k-mooney we cannot ignore a request for a feature
13:43:52 sean-k-mooney if the arch does not supprot it we must reject teh boot request
13:44:20 sean-k-mooney ricolin: this should not actully get that far really
13:44:31 sean-k-mooney the reason is that on those plathform we will not be reporting the traits
13:44:42 sean-k-mooney so we shoudl not get as far as generating the xml
13:45:21 sean-k-mooney but the current logic is incorrect we shoudl be raising an error if for some reason we are on a ppc64 host and we manage to get to this point in the virt driver
13:48:08 sean-k-mooney ricolin: the contract that nova provides is if you ask for a feature we will either fail to find a host that can provide that and set the instnace to error or we will boot a vm with that feature enabled
13:48:24 sean-k-mooney ricolin: so for this feature you need to provide that same guarentee
13:49:12 ricolin okay
13:49:21 ricolin I will add that error
13:49:41 ricolin you think on the libvirt driver works, or you're thinking elsewhere?
13:49:57 ricolin I mean place to add that check and raise error
13:50:35 sean-k-mooney so you shoudl raise the error in the libvirt driver
13:50:40 sean-k-mooney but in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/844507/5
13:50:54 sean-k-mooney you shoudl only report the iommu traits if you are on arm or x86
13:51:21 sean-k-mooney that will prevent the libvirt hosts form being select if its say ppc64 or mips
13:51:51 sean-k-mooney so https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/844507/5/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#12102 need to check the architechtre.
13:54:31 ricolin got it
13:54:44 ricolin thanks sean-k-mooney
14:11:22 gibi sean-k-mooney: about the owner trait in the pci series. I can propose a standard trait for sure. I'm wondering if this will be really a compute capability traits as those are added to the root RP. I more thought about an RP type trait, expressing that this is a PCI RP.
14:56:42 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/os-traits master: Add HW_PCI_DEVICE trait https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-traits/+/850538
14:56:55 gibi sean-k-mooney: I can go with the combination of ^^ and OWNER_NOVA
14:57:03 gibi that will express what I need
14:57:15 gibi later if we need a capability trait for scheduling then I will add one too
14:57:43 sean-k-mooney it does not really feel like a HW trait to me
14:58:03 sean-k-mooney more COMPUTE but i prefer HW over CUSTOM_
14:58:25 sean-k-mooney gibi: its not an atirbute of the hardware its an atibute of the compute serivce
14:58:34 sean-k-mooney and its ablity to track pci device in this case via placment
14:58:56 sean-k-mooney if it was a properly of a specific pci device it woudl go under HW
14:59:10 sean-k-mooney is there a particalr reason you went with HW?
14:59:37 gibi I think we are still after two different things. You want to indicate that the compute can track PCI in Placement. I want to indicate that a specific RP represents a PCI device managed by Nova
14:59:56 gibi for the former I agree that is a compute capability trait
15:00:06 sean-k-mooney rigth but the later is not an atribute of the RP
15:00:19 sean-k-mooney its an atribute of the resouce clase tracked by one fo the inventires
15:00:21 gibi lets continue after the meeting...
15:00:32 sean-k-mooney sure
15:58:37 gibi I think I go your point. this is not a hw feature so the trait should not be under HW
15:58:52 gibi I will move it under COMPUTE
16:13:13 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/os-traits master: Add COMPUTE_MANAGED_PCI_DEVICE trait https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-traits/+/850538
16:13:20 gibi sean-k-mooney: moved ^^
16:52:39 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Basics for PCI Placement reporting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/846187
16:52:39 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Extend device_spec with resource_class and traits https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/846218
16:52:40 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Reject PCI dependent device config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/846435
16:52:40 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Reject mixed VF rc and trait config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/846436
16:52:41 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Ignore PCI devs with physical_network tag https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/846219
16:52:41 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Reject devname based device_spec config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/846466
16:52:42 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Support [pci]device_spec reconfiguration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/846470
16:52:42 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Stop if tracking is disable after it was enabled before https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/847009
16:52:43 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Allow enabling PCI tracking in Placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850468
16:52:44 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Move provider_tree RP creation to PciResourceProvider https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850546
18:10:16 opendevreview sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: single pass instance info fetch in host manager https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/623558
19:29:31 opendevreview Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: add regression test case for bug 1978983 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/849104
21:09:08 opendevreview Rico Lin proposed openstack/nova master: Add locked_memory extra spec and image property https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778347
21:09:09 opendevreview Rico Lin proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Add vIOMMU device to guest https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/830646
21:09:10 opendevreview Rico Lin proposed openstack/nova master: Add traits for viommu model https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/844507
#openstack-nova - 2022-07-21
07:27:27 gibi o/
07:27:33 bauzas \o
07:29:06 Uggla o/
07:48:49 bauzas hmmmm, Kendall is asking me a few questions about the PTG
07:49:01 bauzas I guess this email was sent to all PTLs
07:49:27 bauzas tl:dr: the Foundation wants to invite ops at the PTG, which I think is an excellent proposal
07:49:55 bauzas but now, in order to make this happen, we somehow have to showcase a bit and think how we could make their trip valuable
07:50:43 bauzas if people are willing to, we can brainstorm a bit about those 4 questions she sent
07:50:55 bauzas 1/ what do we want to hear from ops at the PTG
07:51:08 bauzas 2/ what topics are on our PTG agenda (yet)
07:51:24 bauzas 3/ what are the goals for the Columbus PTG ?
07:52:08 bauzas 4/ what contributors think about an extra day on Friday if there is an Ops sessions day ?
07:53:57 MichielPiscaer[m] I as ops person, I'm planning to got to the PTG. I think the main question is what do you want to know from me as operator.
08:02:07 gibi bauzas: good questions. I think we should fire up an etherpad to collect the answers from the team
08:02:40 bauzas gibi: this was my approach
08:03:17 bauzas II don't want to hold that much to reply to diablo_rojo
08:03:41 bauzas so ideally, I'd appreciate if I could reply by tomorrow (hence that not being discussed at the nova meeting)
08:04:11 bauzas also, Kendall is asking whether we agree on publishing our responses into some superuser blog
08:04:38 bauzas MichielPiscaer[m]: oh, thanks for your feedback, extremely valuable
08:05:09 bauzas MichielPiscaer[m]: in general, we appreciate some ops presence in the room for challenging the usecases
08:06:12 bauzas during the last 3 virtual PTGs, we didn't really went into deepdive design sessions, so I feel ops couldn't be that disconnected from the talks
08:08:34 gibi bauzas: #1) new use cases, pain points, general info about what they are using (services, versions, configuration)
08:09:03 gibi bauzas: #2) I will definielty talk about PCI in placement :) but not much else on my agenda so far
08:09:35 gibi bauzas: #3) plan the AA (and BB cycle)
08:09:56 bauzas I'm just creating the etherpad with my notes
08:09:57 gibi bauzas: #4) I'm happy to have an extra day with Ops
08:10:01 bauzas me too
08:10:17 gibi ack, I will update the etherpad too
08:12:14 sean-k-mooney gibi: i am hoping it will be functinal if but not nessisarly on by default in AA
08:12:47 bauzas https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ptg-columbus-ops-presence
08:13:04 bauzas gibi: add your points to the agendaz
08:13:05 sean-k-mooney i would potentialy like to see the mdev support evloved to build in pci in placment and the pci track ro move to the resouces table like pmem overtime
08:13:05 gibi sean-k-mooney: yepp I think we still have a chance to have the non neutron part in Zed, and then the neutron part in AA
08:13:30 sean-k-mooney gibi: ack i would personally hold enabling by default until we have parity
08:13:36 sean-k-mooney so likely BB
08:13:58 bauzas tbc, this is a bit premature to know what the topics will be
08:14:02 gibi sean-k-mooney: I agree with keeping off by default until we have full parity
08:14:56 sean-k-mooney bauzas: all topic sure but we will have some in the back of our minds
08:15:15 bauzas sean-k-mooney: then add them to the etherpad I mentioned
08:15:27 bauzas and I'll summarize those
08:15:43 sean-k-mooney bauzas: we ususally have a corss project day on monday should we make that ops and cross project
08:15:54 bauzas keeping in mind most ops are running pre-Train :)
08:16:09 bauzas so most of our semantics are mostly unknown by them :)
08:16:32 bauzas sean-k-mooney: looks like there will be a ops day on Friday

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