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#openstack-nova - 2022-07-05
16:00:01 bauzas #startmeeting nova
16:00:01 opendevmeet Meeting started Tue Jul 5 16:00:01 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:01 opendevmeet The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
16:00:10 bauzas sean-k-mooney: sorry had to start the meeting
16:00:18 bauzas hello 'veryone
16:00:21 gibi o/
16:01:17 elodilles o/
16:01:43 bauzas as I said to gibi, I'll need to leave in 40 mins
16:01:52 bauzas so, I'll leave the chair to gibi
16:01:54 bauzas #chair gibi
16:01:54 opendevmeet Current chairs: bauzas gibi
16:02:21 bauzas maybe we should start
16:02:47 bauzas #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
16:02:57 bauzas #info One Critical bug
16:03:02 bauzas #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1979047 Centos 9 Stream bug failure
16:03:19 bauzas that being said, the root cause seems to be fixed on C9S
16:03:38 bauzas now, we have a revert from gibi
16:03:41 bauzas #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/848352 revert of the n-v job patch
16:03:56 bauzas for making the C9S job voting again
16:04:19 bauzas that being said, I have a concern I'd like to discuss with the team
16:04:59 bauzas https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2092856 is the C9S BZ
16:05:15 bauzas if you look at it, it took about 3 weeks in order to be fixed
16:05:45 bauzas and released
16:05:53 bauzas now, my concern is about the job
16:06:17 bauzas given now Centos9 is a stream, that means that we can't just merge a fix without verifying it
16:06:23 bauzas we = RHEL team
16:07:16 bauzas so, here my concern : instead of voting again, should this job be a periodic-weekly one ?
16:07:36 sean-k-mooney well technially the centos core team could but rhel team will want it to go though qe first
16:07:49 sean-k-mooney im +1 on moving to periodic-weekly
16:08:02 sean-k-mooney i orginally did not want it to be voting this cycle
16:08:07 bauzas if we agree on it, I propose to look at the job by every week during our meeting, like we do for both placement and nova-emulation
16:08:08 gibi if we promise to look at it as part of our weekly agenda then I'm OK to move it to periodic
16:08:19 sean-k-mooney when i raised the topic at the ptg it was for ti to be nonvoting until at least m2
16:08:41 bauzas ok, any other thoughts ?
16:08:47 gibi this way we can detect breaking changes, but probably we wont detect race coditions, as there wont be enough runs for it
16:09:06 bauzas gibi: yeah
16:09:14 sean-k-mooney we can also put it in experimental
16:09:19 sean-k-mooney so we can trigger if we need too
16:09:31 sean-k-mooney but that runs more then we would like
16:09:32 bauzas gibi: what I'd also like is to find some C9S folks we could be pinging if we find an issue
16:09:38 elodilles sounds OK to be a periodic-weekly, we even free up some resource with that, right?
16:09:43 sean-k-mooney its too bad we can trigger periodics via a comment
16:09:57 sean-k-mooney elodilles: yes since it wont be per patch
16:10:04 sean-k-mooney but we can still review it regurally
16:10:05 elodilles ++
16:10:30 bauzas sean-k-mooney: yeah we could also have a experimental job if we want
16:10:31 sean-k-mooney if its perodic-weekly we might even be able to add more variants in the futre
16:10:45 gibi I'm fine loosing the race condition detection, so I'm OK to move it to periodic
16:11:09 bauzas ok, I don't see any argue
16:11:13 bauzas so...
16:11:49 bauzas #agreed moving the centos9s job to be a periodic-weekly job instead of voting for every change
16:12:13 bauzas #agreed bauzas to add this periodic job to our weekly meeting topic for the gate
16:12:33 bauzas #agreed we could add this job to the experimental pipeline
16:12:45 bauzas folks, ok ?
16:12:53 bauzas thanks gibi, sean-k-mooney and elodilles for your thoughts
16:13:21 sean-k-mooney its ok with me to move on
16:13:26 gibi let move on
16:13:28 bauzas k
16:13:34 bauzas #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New 10 new untriaged bugs (+2 since the last meeting)
16:13:50 bauzas eventually we only had 8 bugs last week :(
16:13:59 bauzas but eventually this week we had a lof of new ones
16:14:14 bauzas #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-20220628
16:14:19 bauzas #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-20220621
16:14:47 bauzas if people want, they can look at what I triaged
16:15:09 bauzas but I don't want to discuss one of them by now
16:15:22 bauzas #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/placement 27 open stories (+0 since the last meeting) in Storyboard for Placement
16:15:28 bauzas #info Add yourself in the team bug roster if you want to help https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster
16:15:48 bauzas so, the next folk in the roster is artom
16:16:16 bauzas artom: can you be the next bug baton owner, or anyone else ?
16:17:46 bauzas mmm, looks like artom isn't around
16:17:59 sean-k-mooney that means we can give them more work to do right
16:18:04 gibi right :)
16:18:17 bauzas hah
16:18:18 gibi he had on PTO last week so he is well prepared ;)
16:18:28 bauzas I triaged for two weeks
16:18:33 bauzas I paid my duty :D
16:18:59 elodilles i'm not that efficient as others, and probably will be afk 1 day, but can try to have the baton
16:19:03 bauzas (well, actually I triaged every Yoga week, until gibi told we should have a triage team :) )
16:19:24 gibi I think we can convice artom to take it :)
16:19:35 elodilles gibi: that also works for me :)
16:19:36 gibi he is just probably busy with someting else right now
16:19:40 bauzas let me gently force artom to get the baton :)
16:19:50 bauzas not in a passive aggressive way
16:19:51 gibi lets but it on artom tentatively and we can re-think if he rejects it
16:19:57 bauzas but rather talking with him in French
16:20:38 bauzas cool
16:20:46 bauzas #info Next bug baton is passed to artom
16:20:53 bauzas moving on
16:20:55 bauzas #topic Gate status
16:21:00 bauzas #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs
16:21:17 bauzas #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Placement periodic job status
16:21:21 bauzas #link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=nova-emulation&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Emulation periodic job runs
16:21:28 bauzas both weekly jobs run fine
16:22:03 bauzas #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.
16:22:08 bauzas #info STOP DOING BLIND RECHECKS aka. 'recheck' https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/testing.html#how-to-handle-test-failures
16:22:14 bauzas oh, I forgot to add in the agenda
16:22:18 bauzas we have numbers
16:22:39 bauzas #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-July/029363.html
16:23:02 bauzas #undo

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