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#openstack-nova - 2021-11-30
16:08:18 bauzas ok, nothing else to tell ?
16:08:50 bauzas #topic Release Planning
16:09:02 bauzas #info Yoga-2 is due Jan 6th#link https://releases.openstack.org/yoga/schedule.html#y-2
16:09:05 bauzas #undo
16:09:05 opendevmeet Removing item from minutes: #info Yoga-2 is due Jan 6th#link https://releases.openstack.org/yoga/schedule.html#y-2
16:09:19 bauzas #info Yoga-2 is due Jan 6th
16:09:21 bauzas #link https://releases.openstack.org/yoga/schedule.html#y-2
16:09:37 bauzas #info Next spec review day to be planned for mid-Dec
16:09:41 bauzas so,
16:10:08 bauzas what do you think about Dec 14th for a new spec review day ?
16:10:21 bauzas the next week, I'll be off
16:10:23 sean-k-mooney +1 for 14th
16:10:44 gibi 14th works for me
16:10:49 bauzas we have a few open specs
16:10:58 gibi I'm off from the 20th
16:11:11 bauzas gibi: maybe like me
16:11:32 bauzas maybe I'll work on the Dec 22th day
16:11:38 bauzas but...
16:11:57 bauzas I'm not sure we would have quorum
16:12:09 bauzas ok, any other thought?
16:13:03 bauzas #agreed Next spec review day will be Tuesday Dec 14th
16:13:08 gibi I will not be around in the week of Yoga-2
16:13:19 bauzas I'll provide a new ML email
16:13:20 gibi I will be back on the 10th of Jan
16:13:32 bauzas gibi: oh, you're now living in France ?
16:13:37 bauzas :p
16:14:00 gibi I've just checked, no :D
16:14:21 bauzas anyway, no worries
16:14:37 bauzas we will only have the spec deadline for yoga-2
16:15:25 gibi I have two placement specs to get approved :)
16:15:31 bauzas I've seen them :p
16:15:50 bauzas anyway, moving on
16:16:08 bauzas #topic Review priorities
16:16:16 bauzas #link https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+label:Review-Priority%252B1
16:16:22 bauzas #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/816861 bauzas proposing a documentation change for helping contributors to ask for reviews
16:16:32 bauzas I'm afraid I didn't had time to modify it
16:16:49 bauzas nothing to discuss then for this week
16:17:05 bauzas unless people want to have review priorities ?
16:17:46 bauzas fwiw, my main priority will be unified limits reviews
16:18:32 bauzas OK, next topic
16:18:39 bauzas #topic Stable Branches
16:18:48 bauzas I'm sitting down, listening to elodilles
16:18:52 elodilles #info stable gates are OK
16:19:00 elodilles stable/xena has ~3 merged bug fixes, maybe we can wait some more bug fix to land before we do a release
16:19:10 elodilles and that's it
16:20:12 bauzas I was triaging a bug related to the compute service delete issue, and I saw we hadn't yet merged https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/802847
16:20:55 bauzas I'll look at other backports that are fixing bad bugs, and I'll try to review them
16:21:25 elodilles thanks in advance \o/
16:22:01 bauzas well, no problem
16:22:08 bauzas moving on
16:22:16 bauzas #topic Sub/related team Highlights
16:22:24 bauzas Libvirt :lyarwood ?
16:22:33 lyarwood Nothing from me
16:22:36 bauzas cool
16:22:43 bauzas #topic Open discussion
16:22:48 bauzas (gmann) Specless BP approval request for RBAC community-wide goal
16:23:02 bauzas #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-defaults-refresh-2
16:23:12 bauzas gmann: around ?
16:23:51 dansmith I am, if you have questions
16:24:09 bauzas honestly, I don't think I have any concerns
16:24:32 dansmith I've been working on a patch to get servers back to the place where we want it,
16:24:33 bauzas maybe one about upgrades and what it means for operators that were modifying the policies
16:24:35 dansmith as an example people can work from
16:24:39 dansmith and it's very close
16:24:51 bauzas but this is just changing the defaults
16:24:54 dansmith gmann and johnthetubaguy[m] are mostly happy I think, just working out one more functional thing
16:25:19 dansmith bauzas: well, this is pretty much all about defaults anyway,
16:25:34 dansmith and nobody could really have rolled to the new ones yet anyway, so not an upgrade concern, IMHO
16:25:46 dansmith but the revised plan involves less change when they do upgrade
16:26:31 bauzas dansmith: I guess you're referring to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/815158/20/goals/proposed/consistent-and-secure-rbac.rst as the revised plan ?
16:26:40 dansmith yep
16:27:24 bauzas ok,
16:27:45 bauzas this plan isn't yet sold but whatever it will be, nothing will really change from nova
16:28:02 dansmith well, things have to change in nova of course,
16:28:08 bauzas so as you said, I don't think there is any upgrade concern then
16:28:29 bauzas nothing will really change from a nova perspective if you prefer
16:28:37 dansmith but mostly just undoing some of the proposed stuff that hasn't been able to be realized yet.. stepping back from some of that stuff that we merged proactively
16:28:40 bauzas things have to change, but upgrades aren't a concern either way
16:29:00 dansmith much less of a concern than what they were, but of the stuff we're keeping, no real change, yeah
16:29:24 dansmith and keystone will go first which will help our upgrade be even less impactful than it was going to be, if we ever got past the big bubble we had going
16:29:48 bauzas to answer the original paperwork question, I think there is no controversy to tell it's a specless BP and we don't to document this as we already have https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/815158/20/goals/proposed/consistent-and-secure-rbac.rst
16:30:02 bauzas we don't need* to
16:30:13 dansmith ++
16:30:44 bauzas that said, of course this work will need some release notes
16:30:54 dansmith obviously
16:30:55 bauzas to explain the changes to the operators
16:31:00 bauzas ok
16:31:04 bauzas anyone has other concerns N?
16:31:22 bauzas dang, I need to learn typing
16:31:58 bauzas (and that's what happens when you have a french keyboard with ? located near n and requiring shift)
16:32:08 bauzas anyway
16:32:41 bauzas #agreed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-defaults-refresh-2 accepted as a specless BP as the direction is already explained in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/815158/
16:32:50 bauzas moving on, last topic
16:33:12 bauzas (ganso) Raising awareness of vif_multiqueue_enabled in flavor work that is ready to be reviewed/merged
16:33:15 bauzas ganso: around ?
16:33:21 ganso o/
16:33:34 bauzas #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multiqueue-flavor-extra-spec
16:33:49 ganso so as the topic titles says: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp%252Fmultiqueue-flavor-extra-spec%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)
16:34:14 ganso we've discussed 2-3 weeks ago about this and that it could/may be specless, but it was approved to be specless ~6 months ago
16:34:20 bauzas ganso: nothing changed during the implementation phase requiring further discussion ?

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