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#openstack-nova - 2021-05-21
10:32:39 bauzas sean-k-mooney: yup, another spec, another day of discussions
10:32:39 bauzas sean-k-mooney: yup, another spec, another day of discussions
10:32:43 sean-k-mooney we shoudl add in scare quotes "the beast" beside all mentions of the agent rp and just not say why
10:32:43 sean-k-mooney we shoudl add in scare quotes "the beast" beside all mentions of the agent rp and just not say why
10:32:47 gibi until the agent and the switch has 1:1 relationship you can attach resources to the RP for both reasons
10:32:47 gibi until the agent and the switch has 1:1 relationship you can attach resources to the RP for both reasons
10:33:11 gibi it is a beast
10:33:11 gibi it is a beast
10:33:22 gibi but we are taming it with our 1:1 assumption
10:33:22 gibi but we are taming it with our 1:1 assumption
10:33:50 sean-k-mooney yes im tryiing to avoid discussign the added complxity hardware offload adds
10:33:50 sean-k-mooney yes im tryiing to avoid discussign the added complxity hardware offload adds
10:34:06 sean-k-mooney we have adress that via the different resouce classes however
10:34:06 sean-k-mooney we have adress that via the different resouce classes however
10:34:32 gibi which might be a compromise but as far as I see it is an acceptable one
10:34:32 gibi which might be a compromise but as far as I see it is an acceptable one
10:34:38 bauzas technically we created a beast in nova too
10:34:38 bauzas technically we created a beast in nova too
10:34:47 bauzas it is called a "compute RP"
10:34:47 bauzas it is called a "compute RP"
10:34:56 gibi sure it modells mutliple thing
10:34:56 gibi sure it modells mutliple thing
10:35:01 sean-k-mooney yes but its a natural starting point
10:35:01 sean-k-mooney yes but its a natural starting point
10:35:04 gibi :)
10:35:14 bauzas ok, I don't wanna hold us so long
10:35:14 bauzas ok, I don't wanna hold us so long
10:35:15 sean-k-mooney untill you need to decompose it it all in one RP
10:35:15 sean-k-mooney untill you need to decompose it it all in one RP
10:35:34 bauzas I'll just comment the spec and mention this very worthy eavesdrop
10:35:34 bauzas I'll just comment the spec and mention this very worthy eavesdrop
10:36:06 ignaziocassano hello, seems patches for bug 1815989 are for python3. I am using centos 7 train :-(
10:36:08 ignaziocassano hello, seems patches for bug 1815989 are for python3. I am using centos 7 train :-(
10:36:08 openstack bug 1815989 in neutron ussuri "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration causes up to 40s ping pause in Rocky" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815989 - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)
10:36:09 openstack bug 1815989 in neutron ussuri "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration causes up to 40s ping pause in Rocky" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815989 - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)
10:36:14 sean-k-mooney gibi are you happy you have all the answer to your question to proceed with the next version
10:36:14 sean-k-mooney gibi are you happy you have all the answer to your question to proceed with the next version
10:36:38 gibi I have one more open thing
10:36:38 gibi I have one more open thing
10:36:43 sean-k-mooney ignaziocassano: posibly but they shoudl be simple to adapt
10:36:43 sean-k-mooney ignaziocassano: posibly but they shoudl be simple to adapt
10:36:48 gibi do we need a microversion bump in nova for it?
10:36:48 gibi do we need a microversion bump in nova for it?
10:36:52 bauzas ah
10:36:52 bauzas ah
10:37:00 sean-k-mooney gibi: i do not think so
10:37:00 sean-k-mooney gibi: i do not think so
10:37:10 sean-k-mooney gibi: what api has changed
10:37:10 sean-k-mooney gibi: what api has changed
10:37:21 gibi nova adapts to the neutron API change
10:37:21 gibi nova adapts to the neutron API change
10:37:29 gibi no direct nova API has changed
10:37:29 gibi no direct nova API has changed
10:37:42 sean-k-mooney right so i dont think we need a nova api change
10:37:42 sean-k-mooney right so i dont think we need a nova api change
10:37:56 sean-k-mooney and since neutron does not use microversion i think we are good?
10:37:56 sean-k-mooney and since neutron does not use microversion i think we are good?
10:38:09 ignaziocassano sean-k-mooney : there is no hope that they will be reported on the rdo trunk?
10:38:10 ignaziocassano sean-k-mooney : there is no hope that they will be reported on the rdo trunk?
10:38:16 gibi I'm OK not bumping the microversion, but I would like to get bauzas view on it
10:38:16 gibi I'm OK not bumping the microversion, but I would like to get bauzas view on it
10:38:21 sean-k-mooney we need the palcment microverion for the reparenting but that is a spereate spec
10:38:21 sean-k-mooney we need the palcment microverion for the reparenting but that is a spereate spec
10:38:34 gibi sean-k-mooney: yepp placement is spearate and that is only for a bugfix
10:38:34 gibi sean-k-mooney: yepp placement is spearate and that is only for a bugfix
10:38:51 gibi the pps feature does not need reparenting now
10:38:51 gibi the pps feature does not need reparenting now
10:38:54 gibi (the bugfix needs)
10:38:55 gibi (the bugfix needs)
10:39:07 sean-k-mooney ignaziocassano: it can be wehn we backprot it upstream we will make it python 2 compatiable
10:39:07 sean-k-mooney ignaziocassano: it can be wehn we backprot it upstream we will make it python 2 compatiable
10:39:50 ignaziocassano thks
10:39:50 ignaziocassano thks
10:40:12 bauzas gibi: which kind of signal this microversion would tell ?
10:40:12 bauzas gibi: which kind of signal this microversion would tell ?
10:40:25 gibi bauzas: nova supports the new neutron API
10:40:25 gibi bauzas: nova supports the new neutron API
10:40:26 sean-k-mooney ignaziocassano: i rarely do this howver but the topic on the channel clearly states the chanel is for nova developemnt not technical support. if i or rodoflo have tiem we may be able to work on this backport but currently im tying to focus on a different discsusion
10:40:26 sean-k-mooney ignaziocassano: i rarely do this howver but the topic on the channel clearly states the chanel is for nova developemnt not technical support. if i or rodoflo have tiem we may be able to work on this backport but currently im tying to focus on a different discsusion
10:40:34 bauzas "heh, you can use the fancy pps feature" ?
10:40:34 bauzas "heh, you can use the fancy pps feature" ?
10:41:05 gibi bauzas: yes and no
10:41:05 gibi bauzas: yes and no
10:41:15 gibi bauzas: both nova and neutron changes are needed to use pps
10:41:15 gibi bauzas: both nova and neutron changes are needed to use pps
10:41:23 bauzas exactly like bw
10:41:23 bauzas exactly like bw
10:41:32 gibi bauzas: so simply having the nova upgraded and the microversion available does not mean you can use pps
10:41:32 gibi bauzas: so simply having the nova upgraded and the microversion available does not mean you can use pps
10:41:42 sean-k-mooney right
10:41:42 sean-k-mooney right
10:41:58 bauzas gibi: 'you can use pps', the 'you' being the enduser, right,
10:41:58 bauzas gibi: 'you can use pps', the 'you' being the enduser, right,
10:42:00 bauzas ?
10:42:00 bauzas ?
10:42:06 sean-k-mooney so we could maybe model this as a compute capablity trait that was conditional on the neutron extenion being presnt
10:42:06 sean-k-mooney so we could maybe model this as a compute capablity trait that was conditional on the neutron extenion being presnt
10:42:19 bauzas wait wait
10:42:19 bauzas wait wait
10:42:28 sean-k-mooney but i dont think this should be a microverion sicne that on its own woudl not tell you it will work

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