| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2021-05-21 | |||
| 10:35:04 | gibi | :) | |
| 10:35:14 | bauzas | ok, I don't wanna hold us so long | |
| 10:35:14 | bauzas | ok, I don't wanna hold us so long | |
| 10:35:15 | sean-k-mooney | untill you need to decompose it it all in one RP | |
| 10:35:15 | sean-k-mooney | untill you need to decompose it it all in one RP | |
| 10:35:34 | bauzas | I'll just comment the spec and mention this very worthy eavesdrop | |
| 10:35:34 | bauzas | I'll just comment the spec and mention this very worthy eavesdrop | |
| 10:36:06 | ignaziocassano | hello, seems patches for bug 1815989 are for python3. I am using centos 7 train :-( | |
| 10:36:08 | ignaziocassano | hello, seems patches for bug 1815989 are for python3. I am using centos 7 train :-( | |
| 10:36:08 | openstack | bug 1815989 in neutron ussuri "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration causes up to 40s ping pause in Rocky" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815989 - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | |
| 10:36:09 | openstack | bug 1815989 in neutron ussuri "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration causes up to 40s ping pause in Rocky" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815989 - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | |
| 10:36:14 | sean-k-mooney | gibi are you happy you have all the answer to your question to proceed with the next version | |
| 10:36:14 | sean-k-mooney | gibi are you happy you have all the answer to your question to proceed with the next version | |
| 10:36:38 | gibi | I have one more open thing | |
| 10:36:38 | gibi | I have one more open thing | |
| 10:36:43 | sean-k-mooney | ignaziocassano: posibly but they shoudl be simple to adapt | |
| 10:36:43 | sean-k-mooney | ignaziocassano: posibly but they shoudl be simple to adapt | |
| 10:36:48 | gibi | do we need a microversion bump in nova for it? | |
| 10:36:48 | gibi | do we need a microversion bump in nova for it? | |
| 10:36:52 | bauzas | ah | |
| 10:36:52 | bauzas | ah | |
| 10:37:00 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: i do not think so | |
| 10:37:00 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: i do not think so | |
| 10:37:10 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: what api has changed | |
| 10:37:10 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: what api has changed | |
| 10:37:21 | gibi | nova adapts to the neutron API change | |
| 10:37:21 | gibi | nova adapts to the neutron API change | |
| 10:37:29 | gibi | no direct nova API has changed | |
| 10:37:29 | gibi | no direct nova API has changed | |
| 10:37:42 | sean-k-mooney | right so i dont think we need a nova api change | |
| 10:37:42 | sean-k-mooney | right so i dont think we need a nova api change | |
| 10:37:56 | sean-k-mooney | and since neutron does not use microversion i think we are good? | |
| 10:37:56 | sean-k-mooney | and since neutron does not use microversion i think we are good? | |
| 10:38:09 | ignaziocassano | sean-k-mooney : there is no hope that they will be reported on the rdo trunk? | |
| 10:38:10 | ignaziocassano | sean-k-mooney : there is no hope that they will be reported on the rdo trunk? | |
| 10:38:16 | gibi | I'm OK not bumping the microversion, but I would like to get bauzas view on it | |
| 10:38:16 | gibi | I'm OK not bumping the microversion, but I would like to get bauzas view on it | |
| 10:38:21 | sean-k-mooney | we need the palcment microverion for the reparenting but that is a spereate spec | |
| 10:38:21 | sean-k-mooney | we need the palcment microverion for the reparenting but that is a spereate spec | |
| 10:38:34 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: yepp placement is spearate and that is only for a bugfix | |
| 10:38:34 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: yepp placement is spearate and that is only for a bugfix | |
| 10:38:51 | gibi | the pps feature does not need reparenting now | |
| 10:38:51 | gibi | the pps feature does not need reparenting now | |
| 10:38:54 | gibi | (the bugfix needs) | |
| 10:38:55 | gibi | (the bugfix needs) | |
| 10:39:07 | sean-k-mooney | ignaziocassano: it can be wehn we backprot it upstream we will make it python 2 compatiable | |
| 10:39:07 | sean-k-mooney | ignaziocassano: it can be wehn we backprot it upstream we will make it python 2 compatiable | |
| 10:39:50 | ignaziocassano | thks | |
| 10:39:50 | ignaziocassano | thks | |
| 10:40:12 | bauzas | gibi: which kind of signal this microversion would tell ? | |
| 10:40:12 | bauzas | gibi: which kind of signal this microversion would tell ? | |
| 10:40:25 | gibi | bauzas: nova supports the new neutron API | |
| 10:40:25 | gibi | bauzas: nova supports the new neutron API | |
| 10:40:26 | sean-k-mooney | ignaziocassano: i rarely do this howver but the topic on the channel clearly states the chanel is for nova developemnt not technical support. if i or rodoflo have tiem we may be able to work on this backport but currently im tying to focus on a different discsusion | |
| 10:40:26 | sean-k-mooney | ignaziocassano: i rarely do this howver but the topic on the channel clearly states the chanel is for nova developemnt not technical support. if i or rodoflo have tiem we may be able to work on this backport but currently im tying to focus on a different discsusion | |
| 10:40:34 | bauzas | "heh, you can use the fancy pps feature" ? | |
| 10:40:34 | bauzas | "heh, you can use the fancy pps feature" ? | |
| 10:41:05 | gibi | bauzas: yes and no | |
| 10:41:05 | gibi | bauzas: yes and no | |
| 10:41:15 | gibi | bauzas: both nova and neutron changes are needed to use pps | |
| 10:41:15 | gibi | bauzas: both nova and neutron changes are needed to use pps | |
| 10:41:23 | bauzas | exactly like bw | |
| 10:41:23 | bauzas | exactly like bw | |
| 10:41:32 | gibi | bauzas: so simply having the nova upgraded and the microversion available does not mean you can use pps | |
| 10:41:32 | gibi | bauzas: so simply having the nova upgraded and the microversion available does not mean you can use pps | |
| 10:41:42 | sean-k-mooney | right | |
| 10:41:42 | sean-k-mooney | right | |
| 10:41:58 | bauzas | gibi: 'you can use pps', the 'you' being the enduser, right, | |
| 10:41:58 | bauzas | gibi: 'you can use pps', the 'you' being the enduser, right, | |
| 10:42:00 | bauzas | ? | |
| 10:42:00 | bauzas | ? | |
| 10:42:06 | sean-k-mooney | so we could maybe model this as a compute capablity trait that was conditional on the neutron extenion being presnt | |
| 10:42:06 | sean-k-mooney | so we could maybe model this as a compute capablity trait that was conditional on the neutron extenion being presnt | |
| 10:42:19 | bauzas | wait wait | |
| 10:42:19 | bauzas | wait wait | |
| 10:42:28 | sean-k-mooney | but i dont think this should be a microverion sicne that on its own woudl not tell you it will work | |
| 10:42:28 | sean-k-mooney | but i dont think this should be a microverion sicne that on its own woudl not tell you it will work | |
| 10:42:46 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: i was just trying to come up with any signel that could be useful | |
| 10:42:46 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: i was just trying to come up with any signel that could be useful | |
| 10:42:58 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: i dont think we actully need that | |
| 10:42:58 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: i dont think we actully need that | |
| 10:43:14 | bauzas | I think we have a loose contract on the features a cloud supports | |
| 10:43:14 | bauzas | I think we have a loose contract on the features a cloud supports | |
| 10:43:55 | sean-k-mooney | gibi you just wanted a way to tell form the api if you could use this yes? | |
| 10:43:55 | sean-k-mooney | gibi you just wanted a way to tell form the api if you could use this yes? | |
| 10:44:02 | bauzas | as an end user, especially when you wanna use scheduler hints, you're absolutely blind whether the API endpoint will support it | |
| 10:44:02 | bauzas | as an end user, especially when you wanna use scheduler hints, you're absolutely blind whether the API endpoint will support it | |
| 10:44:06 | gibi | especially as this is an optinal feature as the admin needs to configure pps resources | |
| 10:44:06 | gibi | especially as this is an optinal feature as the admin needs to configure pps resources | |
| 10:44:07 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: is the presnce of the QOS policy created by the admin not enough | |
| 10:44:07 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: is the presnce of the QOS policy created by the admin not enough | |
| 10:44:37 | bauzas | gibi: why can't the user request the neutron extension to see whether this is configured ? | |
| 10:44:37 | bauzas | gibi: why can't the user request the neutron extension to see whether this is configured ? | |
| 10:45:07 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: they could but they would not know if nova was new enough | |
| 10:45:07 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: they could but they would not know if nova was new enough | |
| 10:45:16 | sean-k-mooney | but since qos policy create is admin only | |
| 10:45:16 | sean-k-mooney | but since qos policy create is admin only | |
| 10:45:27 | sean-k-mooney | listing the qos polices seams like a better approch | |
| 10:45:27 | sean-k-mooney | listing the qos polices seams like a better approch | |
| 10:45:33 | gibi | bauzas: from API perspective both the extension list and the nova microversion is needed to guarantee that this works | |