| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2021-05-12 | |||
| 10:13:48 | gibi | as I always forget that openstack resource provider trait list needs 1.6 at least | |
| 10:13:48 | gibi | as I always forget that openstack resource provider trait list needs 1.6 at least | |
| 10:14:03 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: i would be fine with auto negociation but negociating the latest i think is not correct. also yes a flag for enabling it i think would be fine | |
| 10:14:03 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: i would be fine with auto negociation but negociating the latest i think is not correct. also yes a flag for enabling it i think would be fine | |
| 10:14:27 | gibi | I understand your point | |
| 10:14:27 | gibi | I understand your point | |
| 10:14:31 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: osc is slowly switching to using the latest as part of the migration to sdk | |
| 10:14:31 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: osc is slowly switching to using the latest as part of the migration to sdk | |
| 10:14:33 | sean-k-mooney | if we want to do it by default we coudl but that in my view would need a major version bump | |
| 10:14:33 | sean-k-mooney | if we want to do it by default we coudl but that in my view would need a major version bump | |
| 10:14:40 | gibi | I migth disagree that we need to support people scripting against the CLI | |
| 10:14:40 | gibi | I migth disagree that we need to support people scripting against the CLI | |
| 10:15:04 | sean-k-mooney | it was one of the desigin reason why it had its current behavior | |
| 10:15:04 | sean-k-mooney | it was one of the desigin reason why it had its current behavior | |
| 10:15:06 | stephenfin | scripting users should use the sdk now. They can keep using older versions of osc also | |
| 10:15:06 | stephenfin | scripting users should use the sdk now. They can keep using older versions of osc also | |
| 10:15:13 | gibi | * gibi wonders why the IRC log is not updated in the web :/ | |
| 10:15:15 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: that assume they are using python | |
| 10:15:15 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: that assume they are using python | |
| 10:15:38 | stephenfin | yes | |
| 10:15:40 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: it lags there is a chorn script i think that runs evey few minutes | |
| 10:15:40 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: it lags there is a chorn script i think that runs evey few minutes | |
| 10:15:49 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: that is not a valid assumtion | |
| 10:15:49 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: that is not a valid assumtion | |
| 10:16:00 | sean-k-mooney | osc was create to be a stabel cli that is scriptable | |
| 10:16:00 | sean-k-mooney | osc was create to be a stabel cli that is scriptable | |
| 10:16:13 | stephenfin | maybe not, but we've got limited maintainers and the ones that are there want auto-negotiation | |
| 10:16:13 | stephenfin | maybe not, but we've got limited maintainers and the ones that are there want auto-negotiation | |
| 10:16:37 | stephenfin | osc was also created when we had many more maintainers | |
| 10:16:37 | stephenfin | osc was also created when we had many more maintainers | |
| 10:16:44 | sean-k-mooney | which is why we can channge that if we want to but it need to be a major version bump to singnale we are breakign backward compatiabiltiy | |
| 10:16:44 | sean-k-mooney | which is why we can channge that if we want to but it need to be a major version bump to singnale we are breakign backward compatiabiltiy | |
| 10:17:41 | stephenfin | yes, the last release was a major version bump iirc | |
| 10:17:41 | stephenfin | yes, the last release was a major version bump iirc | |
| 10:18:03 | sean-k-mooney | the release contiang the default change patch would have to be a major version bump | |
| 10:18:03 | sean-k-mooney | the release contiang the default change patch would have to be a major version bump | |
| 10:18:23 | sean-k-mooney | having the ablity to auto negociate is not a breaking change turning it on by default is | |
| 10:18:23 | sean-k-mooney | having the ablity to auto negociate is not a breaking change turning it on by default is | |
| 10:21:33 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: stephenfin if ye want to not revert and you make sure the next version of osc is a major version then i could proably live with that but i still think min required would be better that said i would like thinks like flavor validation to be on by default | |
| 10:21:33 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: stephenfin if ye want to not revert and you make sure the next version of osc is a major version then i could proably live with that but i still think min required would be better that said i would like thinks like flavor validation to be on by default | |
| 10:22:05 | stephenfin | this only affects osc-placement, not osc btw | |
| 10:22:05 | stephenfin | this only affects osc-placement, not osc btw | |
| 10:22:19 | gibi | * gibi lunches | |
| 10:22:27 | sean-k-mooney | oh it does? | |
| 10:22:27 | sean-k-mooney | oh it does? | |
| 10:22:44 | sean-k-mooney | i tought it was all of osc | |
| 10:22:44 | sean-k-mooney | i tought it was all of osc | |
| 10:23:06 | stephenfin | no. That's happening but separately. The change above was just for osc-placement | |
| 10:23:06 | stephenfin | no. That's happening but separately. The change above was just for osc-placement | |
| 10:23:46 | sean-k-mooney | i still woudl prefer auto negociating the min reqruied not latest but maybe i have to just live with it being unstable | |
| 10:23:46 | sean-k-mooney | i still woudl prefer auto negociating the min reqruied not latest but maybe i have to just live with it being unstable | |
| 10:24:08 | sean-k-mooney | i rarely have need to script against osc so maybe it not worth avocating for those that do | |
| 10:24:08 | sean-k-mooney | i rarely have need to script against osc so maybe it not worth avocating for those that do | |
| 10:24:33 | stephenfin | tbf, those users could simply request an explicit base version manually | |
| 10:24:33 | stephenfin | tbf, those users could simply request an explicit base version manually | |
| 10:24:48 | stephenfin | '--os-compute-api-version 2.1' or whatever | |
| 10:24:48 | stephenfin | '--os-compute-api-version 2.1' or whatever | |
| 10:24:50 | sean-k-mooney | i just dont want verizon complaining that they cant create flavor when the insitent on setting hw:numa_mem_policy that does not exist | |
| 10:24:50 | sean-k-mooney | i just dont want verizon complaining that they cant create flavor when the insitent on setting hw:numa_mem_policy that does not exist | |
| 10:26:23 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: ya i know but many dont know what microverions are or care they just want the command they always used to work | |
| 10:26:23 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: ya i know but many dont know what microverions are or care they just want the command they always used to work | |
| 10:27:27 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: gibi if the desisin to move all of osc to latest has aleready been made then dont revert the placment patch | |
| 10:27:27 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: gibi if the desisin to move all of osc to latest has aleready been made then dont revert the placment patch | |
| 10:29:39 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Enable 'vmcoreinfo' feature by default https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/752912 | |
| 10:29:40 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Make vmcoreinfo dependent on feature flag https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/779342 | |
| 10:29:40 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tests: Remove 'create_fake_libvirt_mock' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790945 | |
| 10:29:41 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: libvirt: Make vmcoreinfo checks guest arch specific https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790946 | |
| 10:33:57 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: OK, then I won't revert. | |
| 10:33:57 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: OK, then I won't revert. | |
| 10:34:10 | gibi | I honestly don't know what will be the overall osc policy | |
| 10:34:10 | gibi | I honestly don't know what will be the overall osc policy | |
| 10:35:16 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: right now i really dont like that its different per command | |
| 10:35:16 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: right now i really dont like that its different per command | |
| 10:35:27 | sean-k-mooney | as it make it much harder to use | |
| 10:35:27 | sean-k-mooney | as it make it much harder to use | |
| 10:36:09 | sean-k-mooney | that said i know ironic broke the consitency years ago so its not a new thing | |
| 10:36:09 | sean-k-mooney | that said i know ironic broke the consitency years ago so its not a new thing | |
| 10:36:10 | gibi | I think it is the same for each call . max(server,client) | |
| 10:36:10 | gibi | I think it is the same for each call . max(server,client) | |
| 10:36:35 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: not i mean nova and cinder command wont auto negociate | |
| 10:36:35 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: not i mean nova and cinder command wont auto negociate | |
| 10:36:41 | sean-k-mooney | but ironic and plamcent will | |
| 10:36:41 | sean-k-mooney | but ironic and plamcent will | |
| 10:36:47 | gibi | I see | |
| 10:36:47 | gibi | I see | |
| 10:37:04 | gibi | but if the overall osc change is coming the it will be in sync again | |
| 10:37:04 | gibi | but if the overall osc change is coming the it will be in sync again | |
| 10:37:26 | sean-k-mooney | yes if but there was never a cross project agreement to do that as far as i knew | |
| 10:37:26 | sean-k-mooney | yes if but there was never a cross project agreement to do that as far as i knew | |
| 10:37:52 | sean-k-mooney | but if its happeing then i just hope it gets done this cycle | |
| 10:37:52 | sean-k-mooney | but if its happeing then i just hope it gets done this cycle | |
| 10:38:07 | sean-k-mooney | draging it out over multiple cycle will not be a good ux | |
| 10:38:07 | sean-k-mooney | draging it out over multiple cycle will not be a good ux | |
| 10:38:39 | sean-k-mooney | which is why i was expecting this type of change to be a cross project goal | |
| 10:38:39 | sean-k-mooney | which is why i was expecting this type of change to be a cross project goal | |
| 10:38:40 | gibi | OK, then please propose a revert on the osc patch and lets bring it up on cross project levels | |
| 10:38:40 | gibi | OK, then please propose a revert on the osc patch and lets bring it up on cross project levels | |
| 10:39:04 | stephenfin | I don't think this is a serious issue | |
| 10:39:04 | stephenfin | I don't think this is a serious issue | |
| 10:39:16 | stephenfin | If people don't like it, then they'll let us know | |