| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2021-05-06 | |||
| 10:36:17 | sean-k-mooney | and proably compare the filed bettwen both | |
| 10:36:17 | sean-k-mooney | and proably compare the filed bettwen both | |
| 10:37:39 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: at a minim ooo shoudl be setting the neutron hostname mapping automatically when using the bandwith feature | |
| 10:37:39 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: at a minim ooo shoudl be setting the neutron hostname mapping automatically when using the bandwith feature | |
| 10:38:23 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: there is a patch against netruon right now https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/788893 | |
| 10:38:23 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: there is a patch against netruon right now https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/788893 | |
| 10:38:24 | gibi | it is needed there as CONF.host is fqdn but libvirt returns short names? | |
| 10:38:24 | gibi | it is needed there as CONF.host is fqdn but libvirt returns short names? | |
| 10:39:05 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: well i think that is actully the correct behaivor | |
| 10:39:05 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: well i think that is actully the correct behaivor | |
| 10:39:43 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. we have always talk about the hypervior_hostname as beign a hostname not an fqdn | |
| 10:39:43 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. we have always talk about the hypervior_hostname as beign a hostname not an fqdn | |
| 10:41:01 | gibi | If we all agree that hypervisor_hostname is always expected to be the shortname, and we require the CONF.host to always be fqdn, then neutron can simply get the shortname out from the fqdn to look up the RP | |
| 10:41:01 | gibi | If we all agree that hypervisor_hostname is always expected to be the shortname, and we require the CONF.host to always be fqdn, then neutron can simply get the shortname out from the fqdn to look up the RP | |
| 10:41:25 | gibi | but if every config can be either short or fqdn in all combinations then we are lost | |
| 10:41:25 | gibi | but if every config can be either short or fqdn in all combinations then we are lost | |
| 10:41:28 | sean-k-mooney | well we do not retuire CONF.host to alwasy be the fqdn | |
| 10:41:28 | sean-k-mooney | well we do not retuire CONF.host to alwasy be the fqdn | |
| 10:41:36 | sean-k-mooney | its normally the sort name too | |
| 10:41:36 | sean-k-mooney | its normally the sort name too | |
| 10:42:08 | gibi | I think we should write up the list of supported config combinations | |
| 10:42:08 | gibi | I think we should write up the list of supported config combinations | |
| 10:42:24 | gibi | and then fix what is broken | |
| 10:42:24 | gibi | and then fix what is broken | |
| 10:42:28 | sean-k-mooney | right now technially both value can be short name or fqdn | |
| 10:42:28 | sean-k-mooney | right now technially both value can be short name or fqdn | |
| 10:42:46 | sean-k-mooney | but hypervior_hostname was alwasy intended to be the sortname and host defualt to the short name | |
| 10:42:46 | sean-k-mooney | but hypervior_hostname was alwasy intended to be the sortname and host defualt to the short name | |
| 10:43:21 | sean-k-mooney | we talked about this at the dublin ptg at some lenght as some operators wanted to use FQDNs for both | |
| 10:43:21 | sean-k-mooney | we talked about this at the dublin ptg at some lenght as some operators wanted to use FQDNs for both | |
| 10:43:41 | gibi | and libvirt uses fqdn is some cases already based on the comment you linked from the code | |
| 10:43:41 | gibi | and libvirt uses fqdn is some cases already based on the comment you linked from the code | |
| 10:44:17 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: yes only if you set the canonical hostname in /etc/hosts to an fqdn | |
| 10:44:17 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: yes only if you set the canonical hostname in /etc/hosts to an fqdn | |
| 10:44:48 | gibi | so again, I think we first agree on what config fqdn/sortname combination OpenStack wants to supprot | |
| 10:44:48 | gibi | so again, I think we first agree on what config fqdn/sortname combination OpenStack wants to supprot | |
| 10:44:57 | gibi | then fix the system to work in these scenarios | |
| 10:44:57 | gibi | then fix the system to work in these scenarios | |
| 10:45:48 | sean-k-mooney | ya | |
| 10:45:48 | sean-k-mooney | ya | |
| 10:47:25 | sean-k-mooney | ya personally i would prefer to either onlyu use hostname or only use FQDNs | |
| 10:47:25 | sean-k-mooney | ya personally i would prefer to either onlyu use hostname or only use FQDNs | |
| 10:48:03 | gibi | yepp, that would be clean and self consistent all the way | |
| 10:48:03 | gibi | yepp, that would be clean and self consistent all the way | |
| 10:48:05 | sean-k-mooney | i prefer hostnames but that is just a preference | |
| 10:48:05 | sean-k-mooney | i prefer hostnames but that is just a preference | |
| 10:48:52 | sean-k-mooney | the delta in function ality is fqdns allows host-1.rack-1.mydomain and host-1.rack-2.mydomain to work | |
| 10:48:52 | sean-k-mooney | the delta in function ality is fqdns allows host-1.rack-1.mydomain and host-1.rack-2.mydomain to work | |
| 10:49:13 | sean-k-mooney | where as hostnames only requires tehm all to be unique | |
| 10:49:13 | sean-k-mooney | where as hostnames only requires tehm all to be unique | |
| 10:49:32 | gibi | yepp, I see the need for FQDNs in big deployments | |
| 10:49:32 | gibi | yepp, I see the need for FQDNs in big deployments | |
| 10:49:42 | gibi | or at least accept the need | |
| 10:49:42 | gibi | or at least accept the need | |
| 10:50:05 | sean-k-mooney | the only issue if we use FQDNs only is sometime we will still end up with hostnames | |
| 10:50:05 | sean-k-mooney | the only issue if we use FQDNs only is sometime we will still end up with hostnames | |
| 10:50:25 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. if you dont have the FQDN in /etc/hosts | |
| 10:50:25 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. if you dont have the FQDN in /etc/hosts | |
| 10:51:03 | sean-k-mooney | well that and we told all the other service to use socket.gethostname() | |
| 10:51:03 | sean-k-mooney | well that and we told all the other service to use socket.gethostname() | |
| 10:51:46 | sean-k-mooney | i even changed cyborg to use gethostnaem form getfqdn https://github.com/openstack/cyborg/commit/ec0eab0ffb4fc18574dbd937f29545832d317e4c | |
| 10:51:46 | sean-k-mooney | i even changed cyborg to use gethostnaem form getfqdn https://github.com/openstack/cyborg/commit/ec0eab0ffb4fc18574dbd937f29545832d317e4c | |
| 10:51:53 | sean-k-mooney | after that intial email thread | |
| 10:51:53 | sean-k-mooney | after that intial email thread | |
| 10:53:08 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: part of me feels like we should add a fucntion to oslo.utils | |
| 10:53:08 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: part of me feels like we should add a fucntion to oslo.utils | |
| 10:53:14 | sean-k-mooney | and then just have everyone use that | |
| 10:53:15 | sean-k-mooney | and then just have everyone use that | |
| 10:53:50 | sean-k-mooney | and then in nova we can perhaps think about have a reshape or soemthing to normalise the RPs | |
| 10:53:50 | sean-k-mooney | and then in nova we can perhaps think about have a reshape or soemthing to normalise the RPs | |
| 10:54:15 | gibi | I think you can rename without reshape | |
| 10:54:15 | sean-k-mooney | the fact this currently depend on the virt driver you use is less then ideal. | |
| 10:54:15 | gibi | I think you can rename without reshape | |
| 10:54:16 | sean-k-mooney | the fact this currently depend on the virt driver you use is less then ideal. | |
| 10:54:26 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: ya i think you are right | |
| 10:54:26 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: ya i think you are right | |
| 10:54:31 | sean-k-mooney | the allocation dont need to move | |
| 10:54:31 | sean-k-mooney | the allocation dont need to move | |
| 10:54:35 | gibi | yepp | |
| 10:55:14 | sean-k-mooney | what we can do its encode the libvirt logic which is in the neutron patch in an oslo patch | |
| 10:55:14 | sean-k-mooney | what we can do its encode the libvirt logic which is in the neutron patch in an oslo patch | |
| 10:55:20 | sean-k-mooney | and then use that | |
| 10:55:20 | sean-k-mooney | and then use that | |
| 10:55:42 | sean-k-mooney | for libvirt at least it woudl not change behaivor and for other driver i suspect it wont either | |
| 10:55:42 | sean-k-mooney | for libvirt at least it woudl not change behaivor and for other driver i suspect it wont either | |
| 10:55:56 | gibi | I cannot comment on other drivers cases | |
| 10:55:56 | gibi | I cannot comment on other drivers cases | |
| 10:56:11 | sean-k-mooney | well ironic they use the ironic node uuid as the name right? | |
| 10:56:11 | sean-k-mooney | well ironic they use the ironic node uuid as the name right? | |
| 10:56:32 | sean-k-mooney | not sure what hyperv or vmware does | |
| 10:56:32 | sean-k-mooney | not sure what hyperv or vmware does | |
| 10:56:38 | gibi | yes. but I don't know if neutron ever needs that | |
| 10:56:38 | gibi | yes. but I don't know if neutron ever needs that | |
| 10:56:49 | gibi | that = ironic node name | |
| 10:56:49 | gibi | that = ironic node name | |
| 10:56:57 | sean-k-mooney | ya the neutron agent dont run on the ironic nodes | |
| 10:56:57 | sean-k-mooney | ya the neutron agent dont run on the ironic nodes | |
| 10:57:35 | gibi | I have to jump to a call from the top of the hour | |
| 10:57:35 | gibi | I have to jump to a call from the top of the hour | |
| 10:57:50 | gibi | I linked this discussion to the neutron patch for reference | |