| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2021-05-06 | |||
| 10:42:08 | gibi | I think we should write up the list of supported config combinations | |
| 10:42:08 | gibi | I think we should write up the list of supported config combinations | |
| 10:42:24 | gibi | and then fix what is broken | |
| 10:42:24 | gibi | and then fix what is broken | |
| 10:42:28 | sean-k-mooney | right now technially both value can be short name or fqdn | |
| 10:42:28 | sean-k-mooney | right now technially both value can be short name or fqdn | |
| 10:42:46 | sean-k-mooney | but hypervior_hostname was alwasy intended to be the sortname and host defualt to the short name | |
| 10:42:46 | sean-k-mooney | but hypervior_hostname was alwasy intended to be the sortname and host defualt to the short name | |
| 10:43:21 | sean-k-mooney | we talked about this at the dublin ptg at some lenght as some operators wanted to use FQDNs for both | |
| 10:43:21 | sean-k-mooney | we talked about this at the dublin ptg at some lenght as some operators wanted to use FQDNs for both | |
| 10:43:41 | gibi | and libvirt uses fqdn is some cases already based on the comment you linked from the code | |
| 10:43:41 | gibi | and libvirt uses fqdn is some cases already based on the comment you linked from the code | |
| 10:44:17 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: yes only if you set the canonical hostname in /etc/hosts to an fqdn | |
| 10:44:17 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: yes only if you set the canonical hostname in /etc/hosts to an fqdn | |
| 10:44:48 | gibi | so again, I think we first agree on what config fqdn/sortname combination OpenStack wants to supprot | |
| 10:44:48 | gibi | so again, I think we first agree on what config fqdn/sortname combination OpenStack wants to supprot | |
| 10:44:57 | gibi | then fix the system to work in these scenarios | |
| 10:44:57 | gibi | then fix the system to work in these scenarios | |
| 10:45:48 | sean-k-mooney | ya | |
| 10:45:48 | sean-k-mooney | ya | |
| 10:47:25 | sean-k-mooney | ya personally i would prefer to either onlyu use hostname or only use FQDNs | |
| 10:47:25 | sean-k-mooney | ya personally i would prefer to either onlyu use hostname or only use FQDNs | |
| 10:48:03 | gibi | yepp, that would be clean and self consistent all the way | |
| 10:48:03 | gibi | yepp, that would be clean and self consistent all the way | |
| 10:48:05 | sean-k-mooney | i prefer hostnames but that is just a preference | |
| 10:48:05 | sean-k-mooney | i prefer hostnames but that is just a preference | |
| 10:48:52 | sean-k-mooney | the delta in function ality is fqdns allows host-1.rack-1.mydomain and host-1.rack-2.mydomain to work | |
| 10:48:52 | sean-k-mooney | the delta in function ality is fqdns allows host-1.rack-1.mydomain and host-1.rack-2.mydomain to work | |
| 10:49:13 | sean-k-mooney | where as hostnames only requires tehm all to be unique | |
| 10:49:13 | sean-k-mooney | where as hostnames only requires tehm all to be unique | |
| 10:49:32 | gibi | yepp, I see the need for FQDNs in big deployments | |
| 10:49:32 | gibi | yepp, I see the need for FQDNs in big deployments | |
| 10:49:42 | gibi | or at least accept the need | |
| 10:49:42 | gibi | or at least accept the need | |
| 10:50:05 | sean-k-mooney | the only issue if we use FQDNs only is sometime we will still end up with hostnames | |
| 10:50:05 | sean-k-mooney | the only issue if we use FQDNs only is sometime we will still end up with hostnames | |
| 10:50:25 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. if you dont have the FQDN in /etc/hosts | |
| 10:50:25 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. if you dont have the FQDN in /etc/hosts | |
| 10:51:03 | sean-k-mooney | well that and we told all the other service to use socket.gethostname() | |
| 10:51:03 | sean-k-mooney | well that and we told all the other service to use socket.gethostname() | |
| 10:51:46 | sean-k-mooney | i even changed cyborg to use gethostnaem form getfqdn https://github.com/openstack/cyborg/commit/ec0eab0ffb4fc18574dbd937f29545832d317e4c | |
| 10:51:46 | sean-k-mooney | i even changed cyborg to use gethostnaem form getfqdn https://github.com/openstack/cyborg/commit/ec0eab0ffb4fc18574dbd937f29545832d317e4c | |
| 10:51:53 | sean-k-mooney | after that intial email thread | |
| 10:51:53 | sean-k-mooney | after that intial email thread | |
| 10:53:08 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: part of me feels like we should add a fucntion to oslo.utils | |
| 10:53:08 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: part of me feels like we should add a fucntion to oslo.utils | |
| 10:53:14 | sean-k-mooney | and then just have everyone use that | |
| 10:53:15 | sean-k-mooney | and then just have everyone use that | |
| 10:53:50 | sean-k-mooney | and then in nova we can perhaps think about have a reshape or soemthing to normalise the RPs | |
| 10:53:50 | sean-k-mooney | and then in nova we can perhaps think about have a reshape or soemthing to normalise the RPs | |
| 10:54:15 | gibi | I think you can rename without reshape | |
| 10:54:15 | sean-k-mooney | the fact this currently depend on the virt driver you use is less then ideal. | |
| 10:54:15 | gibi | I think you can rename without reshape | |
| 10:54:16 | sean-k-mooney | the fact this currently depend on the virt driver you use is less then ideal. | |
| 10:54:26 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: ya i think you are right | |
| 10:54:26 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: ya i think you are right | |
| 10:54:31 | sean-k-mooney | the allocation dont need to move | |
| 10:54:31 | sean-k-mooney | the allocation dont need to move | |
| 10:54:35 | gibi | yepp | |
| 10:55:14 | sean-k-mooney | what we can do its encode the libvirt logic which is in the neutron patch in an oslo patch | |
| 10:55:14 | sean-k-mooney | what we can do its encode the libvirt logic which is in the neutron patch in an oslo patch | |
| 10:55:20 | sean-k-mooney | and then use that | |
| 10:55:20 | sean-k-mooney | and then use that | |
| 10:55:42 | sean-k-mooney | for libvirt at least it woudl not change behaivor and for other driver i suspect it wont either | |
| 10:55:42 | sean-k-mooney | for libvirt at least it woudl not change behaivor and for other driver i suspect it wont either | |
| 10:55:56 | gibi | I cannot comment on other drivers cases | |
| 10:55:56 | gibi | I cannot comment on other drivers cases | |
| 10:56:11 | sean-k-mooney | well ironic they use the ironic node uuid as the name right? | |
| 10:56:11 | sean-k-mooney | well ironic they use the ironic node uuid as the name right? | |
| 10:56:32 | sean-k-mooney | not sure what hyperv or vmware does | |
| 10:56:32 | sean-k-mooney | not sure what hyperv or vmware does | |
| 10:56:38 | gibi | yes. but I don't know if neutron ever needs that | |
| 10:56:38 | gibi | yes. but I don't know if neutron ever needs that | |
| 10:56:49 | gibi | that = ironic node name | |
| 10:56:49 | gibi | that = ironic node name | |
| 10:56:57 | sean-k-mooney | ya the neutron agent dont run on the ironic nodes | |
| 10:56:57 | sean-k-mooney | ya the neutron agent dont run on the ironic nodes | |
| 10:57:35 | gibi | I have to jump to a call from the top of the hour | |
| 10:57:35 | gibi | I have to jump to a call from the top of the hour | |
| 10:57:50 | gibi | I linked this discussion to the neutron patch for reference | |
| 10:57:50 | gibi | I linked this discussion to the neutron patch for reference | |
| 10:57:54 | sean-k-mooney | no worries thanks for litening | |
| 10:57:54 | sean-k-mooney | no worries thanks for litening | |
| 10:58:51 | sean-k-mooney | ill try an follow up downstream and see if we can come to can concreate conclutions | |
| 10:58:51 | sean-k-mooney | ill try an follow up downstream and see if we can come to can concreate conclutions | |
| 10:59:09 | gibi | OK | |
| 10:59:34 | gibi | sorry for being dense | |
| 10:59:34 | gibi | sorry for being dense | |
| 10:59:51 | sean-k-mooney | you werent being dense | |
| 10:59:51 | sean-k-mooney | you werent being dense | |
| 10:59:58 | sean-k-mooney | it helped | |
| 10:59:58 | sean-k-mooney | it helped | |
| 11:00:55 | gibi | then I'm glad :) | |
| 11:00:55 | gibi | then I'm glad :) | |
| 12:18:18 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: would adding a new weigher need a spec. or could that be a specless blueprint | |
| 12:18:18 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: would adding a new weigher need a spec. or could that be a specless blueprint | |
| 12:18:49 | gibi | if the config of the weigher is trivial then I'm OK with a specless bp | |
| 12:18:49 | gibi | if the config of the weigher is trivial then I'm OK with a specless bp | |
| 12:19:37 | sean-k-mooney | i have 2 that i think might be useful. 1 is weighe based on the number of runing instnace and the other is a weigher that prefers the current host an instance is on | |
| 12:19:37 | sean-k-mooney | i have 2 that i think might be useful. 1 is weighe based on the number of runing instnace and the other is a weigher that prefers the current host an instance is on | |