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#openstack-nova - 2020-11-20
12:24:58 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: with the same key
12:25:04 lyarwood and I'm not sure you can do that can you?
12:25:15 lyarwood I thought the keys were unique to a cluster
12:25:24 lyarwood but that might be a lack of knownledge on my side
12:25:39 sean-k-mooney im not sure i have only done it with one ceph personally
12:26:00 sean-k-mooney but i know people do dpleoy multiple ceph clusters
12:26:11 sean-k-mooney but im not sure if that is 1 per AZ or something like that
12:26:38 sean-k-mooney https://ceph.io/geen-categorie/openstack-nova-configure-multiple-ceph-backends-on-one-hypervisor/
12:26:42 lyarwood yeah, I think the normal way to do with admin0 has done would be to use different pools
12:27:33 sean-k-mooney how the hell does ^ work
12:27:38 lyarwood yeah that's single cluster multiple pools
12:27:53 lyarwood and aggregates to keep them apart
12:28:17 sean-k-mooney no i mesn once nova compute with 2 files witht he same keys and different values
12:28:25 sean-k-mooney nova-compute --config-file /etc/nova/nova-ceph1.conf --config-file /etc/nova/nova-ceph2.conf
12:29:03 lyarwood I think that's a mistake in the write up tbh
12:29:12 lyarwood given what they are trying to do
12:30:08 sean-k-mooney they are trying to run two nova computes on the same hyperviour with different host values but they same hypervior hostname
12:31:03 lyarwood ew
12:31:43 sean-k-mooney but 1 if that comand even works it really should not and 2 that si really going to screw up placemnt
12:32:17 sean-k-mooney admin0: so dont do what in that ceph guide.
12:34:13 openstackgerrit Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova master: hyper-v rbd volume support https://review.opendev.org/763550
12:34:17 sean-k-mooney ah found an actully sane example
12:34:20 sean-k-mooney https://medium.com/walmartglobaltech/deploying-cinder-with-multiple-ceph-cluster-backends-2cd90d64b10
12:34:26 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: admin0 ^
12:34:36 sean-k-mooney so the user has to be different on each cluster
12:35:56 sean-k-mooney actully no that is still a hack
12:40:28 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: hmm let me check the connection_info returned by c-vol, I might be missing something here
12:41:08 sean-k-mooney if you used differnt users e.g. nova-<cluster-name>
12:41:17 sean-k-mooney then you could have different cephx keys
12:41:32 sean-k-mooney 1 per user and it should work i think
12:41:46 sean-k-mooney but i did not like there add a libvirt secret thing
12:41:57 lyarwood https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/30501b9ecd6d4ed8dd6405be01795d8634013b24/cinder/volume/drivers/rbd.py#L1438-L1453
12:41:57 sean-k-mooney that was the hack in my view
12:42:02 lyarwood https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/e16800cc0aebf1174c5c0b6c4b043b09622524e9/nova/virt/libvirt/volume/net.py#L37-L76
12:42:09 lyarwood you can have multiple secrets
12:42:24 lyarwood as long as the UUIDs are copied on the computes
12:42:27 admin0 the cinder part is good .. cinder can create volumes in both ceph .. only part is nova works with its default one and has no idea/clue about 2nd one
12:42:53 sean-k-mooney ya so they were manually defineing the second secret on the compute nodes
12:43:20 lyarwood that's fine
12:43:31 lyarwood admin0: apologies so I forgot about https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/e16800cc0aebf1174c5c0b6c4b043b09622524e9/nova/virt/libvirt/volume/net.py#L37-L76
12:43:56 lyarwood admin0: so c-vol needs to return connection_info with {"auth_enabled": True}
12:45:29 sean-k-mooney is that enough or will you need to maulaly add the persistint key first. i think that would be required yes?
12:45:41 sean-k-mooney that a one time operation on all the compute nodes
12:46:18 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: correct you still need to populate the secret on the computes
12:46:28 lyarwood admin0: and thinking about it that's what you have likely missed here
12:46:47 lyarwood admin0: you need two ceph secrets in libvirt per compute with these two clusters
12:47:36 sean-k-mooney this fells like something that could be imporved with a specless blueprint to allow the config options to have multiple vlaues
12:48:26 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: I'd rather drop the use of the config here and just rely on cinder
12:48:29 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: for volumes
12:49:07 sean-k-mooney well the config options were for the images_backend really
12:49:17 sean-k-mooney but i ment for createing the secret in libvirt
12:49:39 sean-k-mooney i guess we coudl drop that and make it just a deployment step
12:49:42 stephenfin lyarwood: Could you create a bug report for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/761730/ if you're planning to backport it? If you're not, I'll approve now
12:51:22 lyarwood stephenfin: yup can do
12:51:51 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: we can't automate that so it's always going to be a deployment step
12:52:15 lyarwood brb
12:53:45 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Prevent nova-compute start with DB credentials https://review.opendev.org/762176
12:57:48 admin0 This uuid must be different than any existing uuid’s used by cinder/libvirt -- so i just generate a new uuid on the fly ?
12:58:19 lyarwood yeah it just needs to be the same across both the computes and host where cinder is running
12:58:45 lyarwood just use uuidgen
13:02:50 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Prevent nova-compute start with DB credentials https://review.opendev.org/762176
13:03:03 admin0 lyarwood, this is what i have in cinder.conf -- https://gist.github.com/a1git/e8edfc7c0f148085165d4b8589d3f5a7
13:03:08 admin0 i don't see any uuid in there
13:05:13 sean-k-mooney admin0: i think its in your ceph.conf
13:05:24 admin0 its not there
13:05:36 admin0 the uuid is what matches virsh secret-list
13:05:54 admin0 but does not exist on ceph or cinder side
13:07:07 sean-k-mooney [ceph]
13:07:09 sean-k-mooney ...
13:07:11 sean-k-mooney rbd_user = cinder
13:07:13 sean-k-mooney rbd_secret_uuid = 457eb676-33da-42ec-9a8c-9293d545c337
13:07:49 sean-k-mooney so you need to add rbd_secret_uuid to you your hdd and ssd sections i think
13:07:57 sean-k-mooney in cinder
13:09:16 sean-k-mooney yes https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/rocky/configuration/block-storage/drivers/ceph-rbd-volume-driver.html
13:10:11 admin0 but how come its working for the 1st ceph without this value being in ceph or cinder conf anywhere
13:10:28 sean-k-mooney beacus its usign the value form nova which matches
13:10:45 sean-k-mooney the secret for the first cluster
13:24:11 openstackgerrit Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova master: hyper-v rbd volume support https://review.opendev.org/763550
13:25:11 sean-k-mooney lpetrut: do you have a spec filed for that?
13:25:20 sean-k-mooney or at least a specless blueprint
13:25:57 lpetrut sean-k-mooney: good point, I'm filing blueprints right away
13:26:00 sean-k-mooney lpetrut: we need something to track addign an entire storage protocol to the hyperv driver.
13:26:15 lpetrut sean-k-mooney: definitely
13:31:21 lpetrut sean-k-mooney: I think a specless blueprint should be enough: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyperv-rbd
13:31:27 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Make nova-compute hard fail on db config https://review.opendev.org/763559
13:37:34 sean-k-mooney lpetrut: if the chagne was larger it would not be but in this case i might be its really up to gibi and the rest of the core team to decide
13:38:00 sean-k-mooney lpetrut: do you have a third party ci in the works to test this
13:38:20 sean-k-mooney lpetrut: i dont see an os-brick-rbd voting on either change
13:38:41 sean-k-mooney i expect we will want to see that pass before merging this
13:41:13 lpetrut atm we're only testing smb, iscsi and FC volumes but we'll add another os-brick job for RBD
13:42:42 sean-k-mooney and a nova job? ideally tempest full with rbd and hyperv?
13:44:29 lpetrut atm the nova job only covers lvm. if by any chance a nova patch breaks support for one of the volume backends (very unlikely considering the minimal nova code for that), we'll notice it when the os-brick CI starts failing
13:44:36 sean-k-mooney it could be the same job just triggering it on nova
13:45:27 gibi lpetrut: thanks for the bp. Could you join to an upcoming Nova weekly meeting to shortly dicuss your bp and approve it to Wallaby?
13:45:49 lpetrut gibi: definitely
13:46:06 gibi lpetrut: then please add your bp to the OpenDiscussion section of the meeting agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova
13:46:14 gibi so we won't forget it
13:46:30 lpetrut gibi: awesome, thanks for the tip
13:46:38 gibi thanks!
14:24:29 bauzas stephenfin: thanks, looking

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