| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2019-09-12 | |||
| 18:24:07 | dtroyer | by 'we' I mean mriedem and others | |
| 18:24:18 | sean-k-mooney | im guessing we udpated the wrong docs | |
| 18:24:53 | stephenfin | dtroyer: o rly? If you can point me to the tl;dr: for that, I can incorporate it in the docs rework I'll do post feature freeze | |
| 18:24:55 | sean-k-mooney | dtroyer: ye/they added a cleaner syntax that hide most of the detail right | |
| 18:25:10 | mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/python-openstackclient/latest/cli/command-objects/server.html#server-create | |
| 18:25:15 | mriedem | [--boot-from-volume <volume-size>] is new | |
| 18:25:15 | dtroyer | yes, was an entire forum session in Denver | |
| 18:25:32 | sean-k-mooney | dtroyer: yep i was there whcih is why i rememebr this was a thing | |
| 18:25:36 | mriedem | and --block-device-mapping allows type=image | |
| 18:25:38 | stephenfin | I personally tried various combinations of --image, --volume, --block-device and --block-device-mapping before giving up and falling back to novaclient /o\ | |
| 18:26:32 | mriedem | stephenfin: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:story/2006302+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | |
| 18:26:36 | sean-k-mooney | mriedem: can you do --boot-from-volume 100G --image <my image> now? | |
| 18:26:56 | mriedem | eff yeah you can | |
| 18:26:58 | sean-k-mooney | i was hoping it would end up bining somthing like ^ | |
| 18:27:11 | sean-k-mooney | awsome | |
| 18:27:39 | efried | aspiers: what's causing it to be spelled "flavours"? | |
| 18:27:45 | efried | that should be fixed | |
| 18:27:49 | aspiers | efried: my locale | |
| 18:27:55 | stephenfin | I guess what I wanted (not now) was the equivalent of 'nova boot --block-device source=image,id=<image ID>,dest=volume,size=10,shutdown=preserve,bootindex=0 ...' | |
| 18:28:00 | aspiers | and no, it should be fixed whenever it's spelt "flavors" :-p | |
| 18:28:03 | sean-k-mooney | efried: that is the correct spelling | |
| 18:28:04 | efried | 'flavor' should be a token | |
| 18:28:10 | mriedem | stephenfin: there is a thing like that | |
| 18:28:15 | mriedem | not the exact same syntax | |
| 18:28:19 | aspiers | efried: en_GB != en_US | |
| 18:28:22 | stephenfin | it sounds like with OSC 4 that's 'openstack server create --boot-from-volume 10G --image <image ID> | |
| 18:28:23 | stephenfin | ' | |
| 18:28:26 | stephenfin | *...' | |
| 18:28:37 | mriedem | stephenfin: yeah | |
| 18:28:45 | efried | aspiers, sean-k-mooney: I'm not disputing that the word "flavor" is spelled "flavour". This is not a word. It's the name of a thing. You can't issue a command with "openstack flavour ..." | |
| 18:28:59 | mriedem | maybe the osc functional test makes usage more clear https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674111/5/openstackclient/tests/functional/compute/v2/test_server.py | |
| 18:29:00 | aspiers | efried: which instance of "flavour" are you referring to? | |
| 18:29:06 | dtroyer | efried: /me makes a note for a special build… | |
| 18:29:21 | stephenfin | It's on the list of doc fixes I want to get to post feature freeze | |
| 18:29:25 | sean-k-mooney | efried: oh if its givign a cli example ya the US spelling needs to be used | |
| 18:29:40 | efried | I'm talking about this: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOckLfsOWRShI0bwvHL-PGoVzhxwWM376UgImt2h1flG6AXslZmqiMvpF5V3EmxzA?key=MUNMbkVQVDMwbnlmQkswOVZLZldzRThyYV9BaGt3 | |
| 18:29:56 | efried | the title "Update Flavour Metadata" | |
| 18:30:05 | efried | You're not updating the metadata for a flavour. | |
| 18:30:10 | efried | You're updating the metadata for a flavor | |
| 18:30:15 | efried | no matter where you're sitting. | |
| 18:30:17 | aspiers | that's just Horizon's translation | |
| 18:30:35 | aspiers | imagine if it was Chinese | |
| 18:30:36 | efried | swhy I'm asking how that is being "translated". It shouldn't be. | |
| 18:30:46 | sean-k-mooney | ya form a ui point of view its fine alther the flavor quota is not updated | |
| 18:30:47 | stephenfin | sounds like the great configuration drive vs. config drive war of early 2019 | |
| 18:31:01 | aspiers | it would look ridiculous if there was some Mandarin surrounding the word "Flavor" | |
| 18:31:20 | donnyd | dtroyer: can you just alias that in osc | |
| 18:31:34 | aspiers | efried: in fact, it would be ridiculous in any language. You can't have titles which are only partially translated | |
| 18:31:41 | efried | whoah | |
| 18:31:44 | efried | of course you can. | |
| 18:31:54 | donnyd | LOL | |
| 18:32:01 | aspiers | OK, agree to disagree I guess :) | |
| 18:32:11 | efried | should you have 新星 instead of "nova" in a chinese title??? | |
| 18:32:27 | aspiers | Quite possibly, but that's different | |
| 18:32:37 | artom | загрузка с volume | |
| 18:32:49 | aspiers | "nova" is a name which has no pre-existing semantics relevant to OpenStack | |
| 18:33:05 | aspiers | "flavor" is a word which is being used in a way which aligns with its normal every-day meaning | |
| 18:33:12 | aspiers | so they are totally different | |
| 18:33:43 | aspiers | If OpenStack used the word "purple" instead of "flavor" then I might agree with you. But it doesn't. | |
| 18:33:53 | sean-k-mooney | efried: i use to work in a localistion research center in my university before i started on openstack | |
| 18:34:24 | aspiers | efried: But you are free to report a bug in Horizon ;-) | |
| 18:34:25 | sean-k-mooney | they would have said yes you shoudl translate it except where giving example of commandline/tools or api requets | |
| 18:34:40 | aspiers | Yeah I'd agree with that | |
| 18:34:40 | efried | okay, nova is clearly a terrible example. "cinder" is also totally aligned with its normal every-day meaning, so we should translate that one. And "glance". | |
| 18:34:52 | aspiers | Huh :) | |
| 18:35:05 | aspiers | How are cinder and glance aligned? | |
| 18:35:06 | efried | you know, cinder for block storage, glance for images. | |
| 18:35:26 | aspiers | Yeah I know but that's not alignment. That's a couple of obscure puns. | |
| 18:35:57 | efried | "flavor" is just as far away from what the thing is in openstack as "cinder" and "glance". | |
| 18:35:59 | aspiers | Everyone knows what "flavor" means, without needing a pun to be explained. | |
| 18:36:05 | efried | wow | |
| 18:36:05 | aspiers | It's not | |
| 18:36:06 | sean-k-mooney | efried: your saving grace is the fact that you are not ment to traslate proper nouns like names, tradmarks. products | |
| 18:36:22 | artom | Flavors are usually in my mouth | |
| 18:36:24 | artom | Not in my cloud :) | |
| 18:36:24 | sean-k-mooney | so if you want to win the argument sat that falvor is the proper name of a resouces typ | |
| 18:36:34 | aspiers | https://www.dictionary.com/browse/flavor | |
| 18:36:55 | aspiers | "3. the characteristic quality of a thing:" | |
| 18:36:59 | efried | Now, if we wanted to capitalize Nova, Glance, and Cinder I would *totally* agree they're different. | |
| 18:37:07 | aspiers | That's exactly what nova flavors are | |
| 18:37:24 | sean-k-mooney | you know the code ofthen also spells flavor instance-type | |
| 18:37:26 | artom | "broken" is not a flavor ;) | |
| 18:37:52 | aspiers | "4. a particular quality noticeable in a thing:" | |
| 18:38:03 | sean-k-mooney | anyway https://20aa241df59e72844ae9-597ff148d0ea9164d11e7cb764cf9b04.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/681771/1/experimental/nova-nfv-multi-numa-multinode/c1f6ccc/testr_results.html.gz | |
| 18:38:06 | aspiers | Both of those align with nova's usage | |
| 18:38:14 | sean-k-mooney | it look like almost all the test passed | |
| 18:38:16 | aspiers | Flavors are qualities of VMs | |
| 18:38:25 | efried | or "instances" | |
| 18:38:26 | aspiers | Anyway, dinner time | |
| 18:38:27 | sean-k-mooney | for the combinined numa migration + pcpus tests | |
| 18:38:47 | artom | sean-k-mooney, "almost" makes me nervous | |
| 18:38:58 | sean-k-mooney | the ones that failed were not live migration | |
| 18:39:02 | sean-k-mooney | those all passed | |
| 18:39:12 | sean-k-mooney | your code is fine | |
| 18:39:15 | efried | I suspect it would confuse the hell out of Chinese operators if "instance" was 例子 everywhere. | |
| 18:39:25 | artom | sean-k-mooney, well ok, but is stephenfin's code fine? | |
| 18:39:47 | sean-k-mooney | it finished 30 seconds ago so im chekcing | |
| 18:39:59 | mriedem_afk | i'll be back before the meeting | |
| 18:40:00 | aspiers | efried: I have no idea, but anyway none of this is related to any of my patches, so I'm washing my hands ;-) | |
| 18:40:08 | sean-k-mooney | one of the 3 failures was failing to delete a vm | |