| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2019-09-12 | |||
| 18:29:06 | dtroyer | efried: /me makes a note for a special build… | |
| 18:29:21 | stephenfin | It's on the list of doc fixes I want to get to post feature freeze | |
| 18:29:25 | sean-k-mooney | efried: oh if its givign a cli example ya the US spelling needs to be used | |
| 18:29:40 | efried | I'm talking about this: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOckLfsOWRShI0bwvHL-PGoVzhxwWM376UgImt2h1flG6AXslZmqiMvpF5V3EmxzA?key=MUNMbkVQVDMwbnlmQkswOVZLZldzRThyYV9BaGt3 | |
| 18:29:56 | efried | the title "Update Flavour Metadata" | |
| 18:30:05 | efried | You're not updating the metadata for a flavour. | |
| 18:30:10 | efried | You're updating the metadata for a flavor | |
| 18:30:15 | efried | no matter where you're sitting. | |
| 18:30:17 | aspiers | that's just Horizon's translation | |
| 18:30:35 | aspiers | imagine if it was Chinese | |
| 18:30:36 | efried | swhy I'm asking how that is being "translated". It shouldn't be. | |
| 18:30:46 | sean-k-mooney | ya form a ui point of view its fine alther the flavor quota is not updated | |
| 18:30:47 | stephenfin | sounds like the great configuration drive vs. config drive war of early 2019 | |
| 18:31:01 | aspiers | it would look ridiculous if there was some Mandarin surrounding the word "Flavor" | |
| 18:31:20 | donnyd | dtroyer: can you just alias that in osc | |
| 18:31:34 | aspiers | efried: in fact, it would be ridiculous in any language. You can't have titles which are only partially translated | |
| 18:31:41 | efried | whoah | |
| 18:31:44 | efried | of course you can. | |
| 18:31:54 | donnyd | LOL | |
| 18:32:01 | aspiers | OK, agree to disagree I guess :) | |
| 18:32:11 | efried | should you have 新星 instead of "nova" in a chinese title??? | |
| 18:32:27 | aspiers | Quite possibly, but that's different | |
| 18:32:37 | artom | загрузка с volume | |
| 18:32:49 | aspiers | "nova" is a name which has no pre-existing semantics relevant to OpenStack | |
| 18:33:05 | aspiers | "flavor" is a word which is being used in a way which aligns with its normal every-day meaning | |
| 18:33:12 | aspiers | so they are totally different | |
| 18:33:43 | aspiers | If OpenStack used the word "purple" instead of "flavor" then I might agree with you. But it doesn't. | |
| 18:33:53 | sean-k-mooney | efried: i use to work in a localistion research center in my university before i started on openstack | |
| 18:34:24 | aspiers | efried: But you are free to report a bug in Horizon ;-) | |
| 18:34:25 | sean-k-mooney | they would have said yes you shoudl translate it except where giving example of commandline/tools or api requets | |
| 18:34:40 | aspiers | Yeah I'd agree with that | |
| 18:34:40 | efried | okay, nova is clearly a terrible example. "cinder" is also totally aligned with its normal every-day meaning, so we should translate that one. And "glance". | |
| 18:34:52 | aspiers | Huh :) | |
| 18:35:05 | aspiers | How are cinder and glance aligned? | |
| 18:35:06 | efried | you know, cinder for block storage, glance for images. | |
| 18:35:26 | aspiers | Yeah I know but that's not alignment. That's a couple of obscure puns. | |
| 18:35:57 | efried | "flavor" is just as far away from what the thing is in openstack as "cinder" and "glance". | |
| 18:35:59 | aspiers | Everyone knows what "flavor" means, without needing a pun to be explained. | |
| 18:36:05 | efried | wow | |
| 18:36:05 | aspiers | It's not | |
| 18:36:06 | sean-k-mooney | efried: your saving grace is the fact that you are not ment to traslate proper nouns like names, tradmarks. products | |
| 18:36:22 | artom | Flavors are usually in my mouth | |
| 18:36:24 | artom | Not in my cloud :) | |
| 18:36:24 | sean-k-mooney | so if you want to win the argument sat that falvor is the proper name of a resouces typ | |
| 18:36:34 | aspiers | https://www.dictionary.com/browse/flavor | |
| 18:36:55 | aspiers | "3. the characteristic quality of a thing:" | |
| 18:36:59 | efried | Now, if we wanted to capitalize Nova, Glance, and Cinder I would *totally* agree they're different. | |
| 18:37:07 | aspiers | That's exactly what nova flavors are | |
| 18:37:24 | sean-k-mooney | you know the code ofthen also spells flavor instance-type | |
| 18:37:26 | artom | "broken" is not a flavor ;) | |
| 18:37:52 | aspiers | "4. a particular quality noticeable in a thing:" | |
| 18:38:03 | sean-k-mooney | anyway https://20aa241df59e72844ae9-597ff148d0ea9164d11e7cb764cf9b04.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/681771/1/experimental/nova-nfv-multi-numa-multinode/c1f6ccc/testr_results.html.gz | |
| 18:38:06 | aspiers | Both of those align with nova's usage | |
| 18:38:14 | sean-k-mooney | it look like almost all the test passed | |
| 18:38:16 | aspiers | Flavors are qualities of VMs | |
| 18:38:25 | efried | or "instances" | |
| 18:38:26 | aspiers | Anyway, dinner time | |
| 18:38:27 | sean-k-mooney | for the combinined numa migration + pcpus tests | |
| 18:38:47 | artom | sean-k-mooney, "almost" makes me nervous | |
| 18:38:58 | sean-k-mooney | the ones that failed were not live migration | |
| 18:39:02 | sean-k-mooney | those all passed | |
| 18:39:12 | sean-k-mooney | your code is fine | |
| 18:39:15 | efried | I suspect it would confuse the hell out of Chinese operators if "instance" was 例子 everywhere. | |
| 18:39:25 | artom | sean-k-mooney, well ok, but is stephenfin's code fine? | |
| 18:39:47 | sean-k-mooney | it finished 30 seconds ago so im chekcing | |
| 18:39:59 | mriedem_afk | i'll be back before the meeting | |
| 18:40:00 | aspiers | efried: I have no idea, but anyway none of this is related to any of my patches, so I'm washing my hands ;-) | |
| 18:40:08 | sean-k-mooney | one of the 3 failures was failing to delete a vm | |
| 18:40:10 | efried | Yeah, even at the start of this I was just being pedantic, not arguing for actual change | |
| 18:40:42 | aspiers | I would have thought that the i18n team would have received enough complaints by now if it wasn't right | |
| 18:40:53 | aspiers | Unless Horizon changed something recently, I dunno | |
| 18:41:05 | mriedem_afk | the one guy at a university trying to stand up nova + xen just called out in the ML | |
| 18:41:06 | aspiers | I never noticed it with the British spelling before, but maybe it was always there | |
| 18:41:17 | efried | timeouts | |
| 18:41:32 | sean-k-mooney | ok 1 was failure to delete an instance and 2 failrues were trying to migrete to the same host | |
| 18:41:35 | sean-k-mooney | artom: ^ | |
| 18:41:59 | artom | sean-k-mooney, which review is that from? | |
| 18:42:25 | sean-k-mooney | https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/c1f6ccc551c649bab6f60911fd3485ff/log/controller/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?severity=4 | |
| 18:42:44 | sean-k-mooney | ah let me get the link | |
| 18:42:53 | sean-k-mooney | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681771/1 | |
| 18:43:29 | dansmith | there's some failed db lookups | |
| 18:43:36 | dansmith | like upcalls or something? I don't even know | |
| 18:43:46 | dansmith | Sep 12 18:10:31.308872 ubuntu-bionic-expanded-fortnebula-regionone-0011217193 nova-compute[14200]: ERROR nova.compute.manager [instance: 44f764db-e0ef-492a-8ac4-c9b110037b7d] oslo_messaging.rpc.client.RemoteError: Remote error: CantStartEngineError No sql_connection parameter is established | |
| 18:44:01 | dansmith | Sep 12 18:10:31.376947 ubuntu-bionic-expanded-fortnebula-regionone-0011217193 nova-compute[14200]: INFO nova.compute.manager [None req-a4e37fd4-9b29-472f-82f8-4cc5d6ba78cd tempest-TestNetworkAdvancedServerOps-353388395 tempest-TestNetworkAdvancedServerOps-353388395] [instance: 44f764db-e0ef-492a-8ac4-c9b110037b7d] Setting instance back to active after: Instance rollback performed due to: Unable to migrate instance | |
| 18:44:01 | dansmith | (44f764db-e0ef-492a-8ac4-c9b110037b7d) to current host (ubuntu-bionic-expanded-fortnebula-regionone-0011217193). | |
| 18:44:32 | sean-k-mooney | ya i think i have seen those before | |
| 18:44:44 | sean-k-mooney | but i dont know where | |
| 18:44:54 | artom | Wasn't that happening when you were testing just my patches? | |
| 18:45:19 | sean-k-mooney | perhaps | |
| 18:45:28 | sean-k-mooney | we shoudl have the ci logs to check | |
| 18:45:39 | artom | Yeah, trying to find them | |
| 18:45:42 | sean-k-mooney | i think i have seen that on master before too | |
| 18:45:56 | dansmith | it's trying to do a reschedule, | |
| 18:45:57 | sean-k-mooney | logstsh shoudl tell us i guess | |
| 18:46:05 | dansmith | but I'm guessing that means we failed to do something we should have been able to do, | |
| 18:46:14 | dansmith | like claiming pcpus again or something | |
| 18:47:00 | sean-k-mooney | so we have this error https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/c1f6ccc551c649bab6f60911fd3485ff/log/controller/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#4825 | |
| 18:47:17 | sean-k-mooney | that is what i expect to see wehn we live migrate without updating things properly | |
| 18:47:31 | dansmith | the logs I saw were cold migrate I think | |
| 18:48:04 | dansmith | yep, resize | |