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#openstack-nova - 2019-09-03
12:44:16 openstackgerrit Bhagyashri Shewale proposed openstack/nova master: Ignore root_gb for BFV in simple tenant usage API https://review.opendev.org/612626
12:54:28 bauzas stephenfin: sure
13:22:29 sean-k-mooney artom: Live Migration failure: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'set'
13:27:07 sean-k-mooney ill replicate this in the ci job but when the souce host only hase cpu enabled in the first numa node and the dest only in the second numa node it failes with that error
13:27:35 artom sean-k-mooney, yeah, that's what I expected
13:27:46 artom sean-k-mooney, it's fixed in a local version, need to finish unit tests and push
13:28:03 sean-k-mooney ok im reconfriguring my vcpu_pin_set
13:28:14 sean-k-mooney and ill continue testing each feature independtly
13:29:38 donnyd sean-k-mooney: Any issues with NUMA I can help with today?
13:30:09 sean-k-mooney donnyd: nope your ci is working fine. we are now testing different edgecases
13:31:10 sean-k-mooney donnyd: i might add some new lables in the future e.g. multi-numa and nested-virt so that they are more expclit
13:31:50 sean-k-mooney donnyd: if you want to replicate the flaovr to a new on i can swap it over to use that
13:31:54 donnyd At some point we should probably create some sensical labels
13:32:03 sean-k-mooney yep
13:33:13 sean-k-mooney if you can copy the flaovr you create and give it a new name i can add a multi-numa-ubuntu-bionic lable that uses it
13:33:50 donnyd Ok, so you want to handle the project config end and I can do the flavor side? correct?
13:34:17 sean-k-mooney well i dont mind if you do the porject config stuff but im happy to do it too
13:34:26 stephenfin cdent: no.
13:34:37 donnyd I can take care of it np
13:34:51 sean-k-mooney cdent: he is obvioulsy the next oslo ptl :P
13:35:01 cdent maybe we should just dissolve things then :)
13:35:10 artom Did efried desist or something?
13:35:25 sean-k-mooney artom: no he just has not renominated himself
13:35:39 sean-k-mooney he has like 9 hours left
13:35:49 sean-k-mooney no one has nominated for nova
13:36:03 efried what what?
13:36:13 artom We're grown ups, we can be trusted without an adult, right?
13:36:34 donnyd 8cpu-8GBram-80GBdisk-multi-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic
13:36:34 donnyd 8cpu-16GBram-80GBdisk-multi-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic
13:36:40 donnyd so like those sean-k-mooney
13:37:03 efried artom: If I've learned anything from doing this, it's that a PTL is not useful for "adulting" the team.
13:37:34 efried Run meetings, ack release patches, organize milestoney things, other paperwork.
13:38:03 artom efried, heh - from the outside looking in, and without wanting to sound pejorative, PTL, at least for nova, looks like a more... secretary-type? job
13:38:14 artom Perhaps admin/organizer would be a better word
13:38:14 efried just so
13:38:24 sean-k-mooney donnyd: they dont need to be that long be sure
13:38:45 sean-k-mooney donnyd: if thoes are teh flavor you created thats fine
13:38:53 kashyap Yeah, "secretary" undermines the actual (unthankful) work involved
13:38:59 sean-k-mooney but ill proably use the labels to hide some of the details
13:39:01 donnyd LOL - ok
13:39:02 donnyd 8c-8r-80d-multi-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic
13:39:05 donnyd better?
13:39:08 artom kashyap, totally, I'm not downplaying the importance of the work
13:39:20 sean-k-mooney well i dont mind what the flaovr is called.
13:39:31 kashyap artom: Yeah, yeah. Just that I am a bit too OCD-ish (working on it) about words :D
13:39:38 artom Just saying that it's thankless, and not very technical (the T in PTL) from a software engineering/development POV
13:39:39 donnyd 8c-8r-80d-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic
13:39:47 sean-k-mooney but the label i would prefer to jsut be muli-numa-ubuntu-bionic
13:40:05 sean-k-mooney and that can use the 8c-8r-80d-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic flavor
13:40:08 donnyd well how would you tell the difference between a 16G label and a 8GB label
13:40:56 sean-k-mooney multi-numa-ubuntu-bionic and muli-numa-ubuntu-bionic-extend-memory
13:40:58 cdent donnyd: since you are here, I thought I would just mention "thank you, your VMs are _so_ much faster than the others"
13:41:42 efried artom: that
13:41:45 sean-k-mooney donnyd: lets submit a patch and work it out in the reivew
13:41:52 donnyd Ok, sounds great
13:42:01 efried I should perhaps remind those present that the PTL need not be a core.
13:42:12 artom PTL-less has happened before, what did other projects (or even Nova) do?
13:42:13 kashyap artom: Oh, totally, on the thanklessness.
13:42:28 artom For instance, running the meetings pretty much anyone can do, so just set up a rotation of volunteers
13:42:41 artom The release stuff is more finicky
13:42:42 sean-k-mooney efried: you sure
13:42:51 sean-k-mooney efried: i thought that was a requirement
13:42:56 donnyd I am also trying to come up with a way to each project team to have a play space, so they dont have to wait on a CI job.. but could do things on the same infra
13:42:58 artom I'd volunteer for the former (checks calendar... right, I can), not so much the latter
13:43:06 artom At least, not without some guidance
13:43:21 kashyap artom: On "PTL-less", try beating this dubious "record":
13:43:30 efried sean-k-mooney: not a requirement. I could go check, but I'm 98% sure.
13:43:49 kashyap artom: https://brussels-express.eu/fun-fact-belgium-owns-world-record-longest-period-without-government/
13:43:57 artom (Actually, no, the Thursday afternoon meetings are 17:00 my time, can't make it)
13:44:08 kashyap [quote]
13:44:09 kashyap 541 days. That’s how long it took Belgian politicians to form an official government after the federal elections of June 13, 2010. It earned Belgium a Guinness World Record for going the longest time with no government
13:44:13 kashyap [/quote]
13:44:16 kashyap :D
13:44:20 efried artom: Delegating meetings would be totally nbd
13:45:03 efried iirc, melwitt delegated the early ones - I think gibi ran those
13:45:36 donnyd Just make all the cores like knights of the round table and just roll responsibilities bi-weekly from core to core
13:45:39 kashyap NBD == No Big Deal (/me could only think of Network Block Device)
13:46:07 gibi efried, artom: I can chair the EU meetings if needed
13:46:17 kashyap gibi: LOL
13:46:26 kashyap Ah, wait - I misread it
13:46:41 kashyap gibi: You meant CET/CEST meetings; /me thought you were joking about the current political fiasco :D
13:46:45 donnyd kashyap: I was also wondering how networked disks became part of the conversation
13:47:01 gibi kashyap: sure, CET/CEST is more specific :)
13:47:03 artom Dudes, I dunno if that's what you're hinting at, but I'm not nominating myself for PTL. I'd feel like a total imposter.
13:47:16 efried artom: fake it til you make it.
13:47:35 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/aa8e0ba19723269e1369e274128f801bb43e67c0/reference/charter.rst#candidates-for-ptl-seats i guess you are right
13:47:37 cdent artom: everyone is and always will be an imposter. anyone who says otherwise is not self-aware
13:47:39 kashyap artom: Yes, don't feel it; go for it, if you want to give it try.
13:47:41 artom Hardly
13:47:49 kashyap donnyd: I figured it out from a little tool called `wtf`:
13:47:49 kashyap $> rpm -qf `which wtf`
13:47:49 kashyap bsd-games-2.17-60.fc30.x86_64
13:47:51 artom efried ^^
13:48:00 kashyap donnyd: It's a tiny (less than 1MB package), and has a acryonym DB
13:48:09 kashyap So, I just type:
13:48:09 kashyap $> wtf is nbd
13:48:10 kashyap NBD: no big deal
13:48:10 kashyap no big deal
13:48:24 artom I'm also scared of commitment (says the man in an LTR with 2 kids)
13:48:38 artom (Man is a big word...)

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