| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2019-09-03 | |||
| 13:38:14 | artom | Perhaps admin/organizer would be a better word | |
| 13:38:14 | efried | just so | |
| 13:38:24 | sean-k-mooney | donnyd: they dont need to be that long be sure | |
| 13:38:45 | sean-k-mooney | donnyd: if thoes are teh flavor you created thats fine | |
| 13:38:53 | kashyap | Yeah, "secretary" undermines the actual (unthankful) work involved | |
| 13:38:59 | sean-k-mooney | but ill proably use the labels to hide some of the details | |
| 13:39:01 | donnyd | LOL - ok | |
| 13:39:02 | donnyd | 8c-8r-80d-multi-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic | |
| 13:39:05 | donnyd | better? | |
| 13:39:08 | artom | kashyap, totally, I'm not downplaying the importance of the work | |
| 13:39:20 | sean-k-mooney | well i dont mind what the flaovr is called. | |
| 13:39:31 | kashyap | artom: Yeah, yeah. Just that I am a bit too OCD-ish (working on it) about words :D | |
| 13:39:38 | artom | Just saying that it's thankless, and not very technical (the T in PTL) from a software engineering/development POV | |
| 13:39:39 | donnyd | 8c-8r-80d-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic | |
| 13:39:47 | sean-k-mooney | but the label i would prefer to jsut be muli-numa-ubuntu-bionic | |
| 13:40:05 | sean-k-mooney | and that can use the 8c-8r-80d-numa-nested-ubuntu-bionic flavor | |
| 13:40:08 | donnyd | well how would you tell the difference between a 16G label and a 8GB label | |
| 13:40:56 | sean-k-mooney | multi-numa-ubuntu-bionic and muli-numa-ubuntu-bionic-extend-memory | |
| 13:40:58 | cdent | donnyd: since you are here, I thought I would just mention "thank you, your VMs are _so_ much faster than the others" | |
| 13:41:42 | efried | artom: that | |
| 13:41:45 | sean-k-mooney | donnyd: lets submit a patch and work it out in the reivew | |
| 13:41:52 | donnyd | Ok, sounds great | |
| 13:42:01 | efried | I should perhaps remind those present that the PTL need not be a core. | |
| 13:42:12 | artom | PTL-less has happened before, what did other projects (or even Nova) do? | |
| 13:42:13 | kashyap | artom: Oh, totally, on the thanklessness. | |
| 13:42:28 | artom | For instance, running the meetings pretty much anyone can do, so just set up a rotation of volunteers | |
| 13:42:41 | artom | The release stuff is more finicky | |
| 13:42:42 | sean-k-mooney | efried: you sure | |
| 13:42:51 | sean-k-mooney | efried: i thought that was a requirement | |
| 13:42:56 | donnyd | I am also trying to come up with a way to each project team to have a play space, so they dont have to wait on a CI job.. but could do things on the same infra | |
| 13:42:58 | artom | I'd volunteer for the former (checks calendar... right, I can), not so much the latter | |
| 13:43:06 | artom | At least, not without some guidance | |
| 13:43:21 | kashyap | artom: On "PTL-less", try beating this dubious "record": | |
| 13:43:30 | efried | sean-k-mooney: not a requirement. I could go check, but I'm 98% sure. | |
| 13:43:49 | kashyap | artom: https://brussels-express.eu/fun-fact-belgium-owns-world-record-longest-period-without-government/ | |
| 13:43:57 | artom | (Actually, no, the Thursday afternoon meetings are 17:00 my time, can't make it) | |
| 13:44:08 | kashyap | [quote] | |
| 13:44:09 | kashyap | 541 days. That’s how long it took Belgian politicians to form an official government after the federal elections of June 13, 2010. It earned Belgium a Guinness World Record for going the longest time with no government | |
| 13:44:13 | kashyap | [/quote] | |
| 13:44:16 | kashyap | :D | |
| 13:44:20 | efried | artom: Delegating meetings would be totally nbd | |
| 13:45:03 | efried | iirc, melwitt delegated the early ones - I think gibi ran those | |
| 13:45:36 | donnyd | Just make all the cores like knights of the round table and just roll responsibilities bi-weekly from core to core | |
| 13:45:39 | kashyap | NBD == No Big Deal (/me could only think of Network Block Device) | |
| 13:46:07 | gibi | efried, artom: I can chair the EU meetings if needed | |
| 13:46:17 | kashyap | gibi: LOL | |
| 13:46:26 | kashyap | Ah, wait - I misread it | |
| 13:46:41 | kashyap | gibi: You meant CET/CEST meetings; /me thought you were joking about the current political fiasco :D | |
| 13:46:45 | donnyd | kashyap: I was also wondering how networked disks became part of the conversation | |
| 13:47:01 | gibi | kashyap: sure, CET/CEST is more specific :) | |
| 13:47:03 | artom | Dudes, I dunno if that's what you're hinting at, but I'm not nominating myself for PTL. I'd feel like a total imposter. | |
| 13:47:16 | efried | artom: fake it til you make it. | |
| 13:47:35 | sean-k-mooney | https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/aa8e0ba19723269e1369e274128f801bb43e67c0/reference/charter.rst#candidates-for-ptl-seats i guess you are right | |
| 13:47:37 | cdent | artom: everyone is and always will be an imposter. anyone who says otherwise is not self-aware | |
| 13:47:39 | kashyap | artom: Yes, don't feel it; go for it, if you want to give it try. | |
| 13:47:41 | artom | Hardly | |
| 13:47:49 | kashyap | donnyd: I figured it out from a little tool called `wtf`: | |
| 13:47:49 | kashyap | $> rpm -qf `which wtf` | |
| 13:47:49 | kashyap | bsd-games-2.17-60.fc30.x86_64 | |
| 13:47:51 | artom | efried ^^ | |
| 13:48:00 | kashyap | donnyd: It's a tiny (less than 1MB package), and has a acryonym DB | |
| 13:48:09 | kashyap | So, I just type: | |
| 13:48:09 | kashyap | $> wtf is nbd | |
| 13:48:10 | kashyap | NBD: no big deal | |
| 13:48:10 | kashyap | no big deal | |
| 13:48:24 | artom | I'm also scared of commitment (says the man in an LTR with 2 kids) | |
| 13:48:38 | artom | (Man is a big word...) | |
| 13:48:52 | kashyap | artom: What is LTR? | |
| 13:49:02 | artom | long term relationship | |
| 13:49:05 | kashyap | Aah, like that | |
| 13:49:20 | artom | I should clarify, I'm in a relationship *with my spouse* | |
| 13:49:29 | artom | Not with my kids - not in that sense, anyways | |
| 13:49:37 | efried | I was gonna say, two kids and LTR not married *is* fear of commitment. | |
| 13:49:57 | artom | Hah, maybe | |
| 13:50:58 | sean-k-mooney | artom: do you get the same tax break for beign in a long term relation and cohabitaing as you do when married | |
| 13:51:12 | sean-k-mooney | i know in ireland you do but i dont think that is the case everywhere | |
| 13:51:25 | artom | sean-k-mooney, I think so - Quebec's pretty awesome for common law spouses that way | |
| 13:51:36 | artom | We file our taxes jointly and everything | |
| 13:52:01 | sean-k-mooney | ya you can do that in ireland too. although we dont have to file taxes unless we are self employed | |
| 13:52:33 | artom | Yeah, that stupidity we got from the US | |
| 13:52:52 | artom | Props up an entire fiscal accounting industry | |
| 13:53:22 | sean-k-mooney | PAYE (pay as you earn) make it way more simple | |
| 13:53:23 | bauzas | oh, it's surely not coming from the US | |
| 13:53:51 | sean-k-mooney | its not from the uk. we use the PAYE system because they did | |
| 13:54:03 | artom | sean-k-mooney, oh, we have PAYE | |
| 13:54:08 | donnyd | sean-k-mooney: How many OS do we want to support with NUMA? | |
| 13:54:17 | donnyd | ubuntu+centos | |
| 13:54:26 | artom | It's why there's a massive difference between my gross and net salary | |
| 13:54:35 | artom | But then there's a whole bunch of possible deductions after the fact | |
| 13:54:51 | artom | Registered retirement savings plans, daycare/school, etc etc | |
| 13:55:02 | artom | So they adjust at the end of the year | |
| 13:55:06 | artom | (well, April) | |
| 13:55:14 | sean-k-mooney | donnyd: ubunut is enough | |
| 13:55:18 | donnyd | kk | |
| 13:55:21 | sean-k-mooney | if you add centos thats fine too | |
| 13:55:27 | bauzas | artom: you wouldn't be surprised with our local tax filings then | |
| 13:55:50 | artom | bauzas, eh, I still think Quebec's is more complex | |
| 13:55:56 | sean-k-mooney | donnyd: we just need 1 flaovr on your end and we can create lables as we need them in project-config | |
| 13:56:06 | bauzas | artom: I personnally doubt that but okay | |
| 13:56:27 | artom | But... je fais mon bourgeois, I bring all the paperwork to an account, pay her some money, and if I pay her enough money, get some more money back from the govt after | |