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#openstack-nova - 2019-06-20
20:51:26 aspiers efried: first pass at series restructuring done
20:51:41 aspiers I'm sure you'll find things you still don't like :)
20:51:43 efried aspiers: cool. Sorry to be a PITA about this
20:51:48 aspiers np
20:52:07 efried it's the 'master switch' that's the most important thing.
20:52:36 aspiers I may not entirely disagree with your commit boundary preferences, but I agree 100% with the master switch thing, and 1000% with a pedantic approach which achieves high quality results ;-)
20:52:44 aspiers s/disagree/agree/
20:53:06 aspiers OK, that's enough (actually too much) work for today
20:53:14 aspiers 10pm and still haven't eaten
20:53:30 efried there must be a magic triangle of pedantry/quality/productivity
20:53:32 aspiers haha
20:53:44 aspiers screw productivity, it's all about pedantry/quality ;-)
20:54:02 aspiers BTW tomorrow may be my last day working on SEV for ~3 weeks since next week is SUSE hackweek, and then I'm off to the USA for 2 weeks holiday
20:54:13 efried ight.
20:54:24 aspiers I think Boris is back around now, so *maybe* he can help progress things while I'm gone
20:54:34 efried aspiers: In your absence, if small things come up, permission to address them without you?
20:54:39 aspiers sure!
20:54:59 efried so like you might (*might*) come back to find this merged
20:55:03 aspiers haha
20:55:15 aspiers well that would be a lovely welcome back, but I'm not expecting it
20:55:18 efried yes, laughter appropriate
20:55:43 aspiers BTW it's looking like I'm being more officially allocated to upstream work from now on
20:55:55 aspiers so this is very good news (for me at least, maybe not for you)
20:56:42 efried nice
20:56:47 efried it is good news for me
20:56:51 aspiers :)
20:56:55 efried been getting kinda breezy around here
20:57:00 aspiers more excuses to be a pedant ;-p
20:58:00 aspiers would be great if I got time to hack on that requested_resources stuff, for example
20:58:16 aspiers at the moment I'm slightly feeling the heat on the SEV stuff, as we have some internal deadlines
20:58:47 aspiers not for forcing stuff down upstream's throat, but for reaching something that is functionally near complete downstream
21:00:00 aspiers OK, dinner time. Hopefully zuul CI won't shit all over my latest patchsets :)
21:00:04 aspiers Cya tomorrow o/
21:00:47 mriedem having a meeting today?
21:01:00 efried oh, crap, I am completely unprepared.
21:32:42 efried hmph, probably no meeting next week due to idempotence day
21:34:27 efried week after next, rather
21:35:53 mriedem i read that as impotence
21:35:59 mriedem which is not something i celebrate in my house
21:36:11 mriedem and on that note, i'm out of here, o/
23:30:44 aspiers efried: you can abandon https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662557/13 too
#openstack-nova - 2019-06-21
00:42:51 openstackgerrit Dustin Cowles proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Spec: Use OpenStack SDK in Nova https://review.opendev.org/662881
02:25:29 alex_xu ls
02:25:31 alex_xu oops
02:26:49 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: if we want to put the vpmem on the numa node rp, then it looks like we still need the reshape API, so the upgrade won't be easy with separated rp for vpmem now. But I can't get explict reason we should put the vpmem on numa node rp, or the child rp of numa node rp.
02:27:59 alex_xu if we prefer to the vpmem as the child rp of numa node rp, then we can go to that way, and separate the rp for now
02:33:09 sean-k-mooney ya im not sure what the preference is
02:34:08 sean-k-mooney i really dont mind too much either way but i just tought it might be simpler in the long run if we started with them seperate
02:34:24 sean-k-mooney but its not a point im really going to rathole on
02:35:06 yonglihe mriedem: HI.
02:42:13 sean-k-mooney yonglihe: while its less of an insane time of mriedem then me its still well after 22:40 for him so he wont be around for about 8-10 hours
02:51:49 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: ok, I see
02:54:49 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: another concern is people is asking us for a simple version for now, I'm afraid to people feel we add more in the current propsoal. actually, I don't have a preference also, happy to do the thing people like one
02:56:17 sean-k-mooney alex_xu: ya i know its frustrating that placments lack of support for numa has been holding back feature like this for 3 or 4 releases
02:57:02 sean-k-mooney we are cripleing the feature to make it simpeler because of the lack fo placmenent freature which created techdebt that need to fix next cycle
02:57:28 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: yea, agree with that
02:57:36 sean-k-mooney but doing it properly this cycle create tech debt when placement finally does support numa
02:57:37 alex_xu I understand your point
03:04:32 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: Add transform_image_metadata request filter https://review.opendev.org/665775
03:54:53 openstackgerrit Boxiang Zhu proposed openstack/nova master: Update AZ admin doc to mention the new way to specify hosts https://review.opendev.org/666767
04:22:39 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix default values in update_cell command https://review.opendev.org/662383
04:22:56 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix cleaning up console tokens https://review.opendev.org/637716
04:29:49 openstackgerrit karim proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support VM memory encryption using Intel's MKTME https://review.opendev.org/666769
07:48:33 openstackgerrit huichen proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Suppot paginaton for server groups by sql https://review.opendev.org/666782
07:57:31 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Defaults missing group_policy to 'none' https://review.opendev.org/657796
08:07:04 kashyap efried: Heya, fully agreed, on jroll's spec for _physical_ TPM passthrough. Maybe I misphrased...
08:11:03 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Defaults missing group_policy to 'none' https://review.opendev.org/657796
08:22:08 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Delete resource providers for all nodes when deleting compute service https://review.opendev.org/657016
08:32:42 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Avoid unnecessary joins in delete_resource_provider https://review.opendev.org/657021
08:35:59 openstackgerrit Bence Romsics proposed openstack/os-vif master: Insert osprofiler trace info as external_ids to the bridge table https://review.opendev.org/665715
08:39:25 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove global state from the FakeDriver https://review.opendev.org/656709
08:43:30 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: API microversion 2.74: Add 'power-update' external event https://review.opendev.org/645611
08:46:35 gibi melwitt: commented https://review.opendev.org/#/c/631294 I don't know if my suggestion would lead to a simpler test or not. :/
08:54:43 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: API microversion 2.74: Add 'power-update' external event https://review.opendev.org/666792
09:06:02 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Add extra spec parameter and image property for memory encryption https://review.opendev.org/664420
09:06:02 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Use fake flavor instead of empty dict in test https://review.opendev.org/662555
09:06:03 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Pass extra_specs to flavor in vif tests https://review.opendev.org/662556
09:06:03 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Extract SEV-specific bits on host detection https://review.opendev.org/636334
09:06:04 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Add and to AMD SEV guest configs https://review.opendev.org/636318
09:06:04 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Apply SEV-specific guest config when SEV is required https://review.opendev.org/644565
09:06:05 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Enable booting of libvirt guests with AMD SEV memory encryption https://review.opendev.org/666616
09:36:59 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: Add transform_image_metadata request filter https://review.opendev.org/665775
09:40:21 cdent It's interesting to read this in the context of OpenStack, especially Nova: https://techbeacon.com/app-dev-testing/forget-monoliths-vs-microservices-cognitive-load-what-matters
09:48:56 sean-k-mooney cdent: the Germane cognitive load of nova is quite high by its nature
09:49:16 cdent it didn't have to be that way, but yes
09:50:02 sean-k-mooney well its partly becasue nova is ofthen the theing that end up driving interaction with other services
09:50:41 sean-k-mooney even if you precreate teh neuton ports for exampls nova still had sto notify nova when a vm uses them
09:51:42 sean-k-mooney some of that is intrisi to being the compute service wich is the main service that consumes other services
09:51:52 sean-k-mooney but ya its an interesting read
09:53:29 cdent the nova implementation is very tightly coupled with itself in a weirdly recursive kind of way
09:56:40 sean-k-mooney well not entirly the api, conductor, compute agent and schduler more or less work as miscroservices
09:57:56 sean-k-mooney or well services they are not that small
09:59:20 cdent that's not really true
09:59:30 sean-k-mooney how so
09:59:43 cdent interactions via rpc are insufficiently hard boundaries
09:59:43 sean-k-mooney the api does not care what virt dirver you use
10:00:35 sean-k-mooney am im not sure i would agree
10:01:09 stephenfin gibi++ Thanks for hitting https://review.opendev.org/#/c/609460/ again. Much obliged :)
10:01:20 sean-k-mooney the could be more orbust in some ways but i would not consier it to less stict then something like grpc
10:02:28 sean-k-mooney its still versioned using ovo

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