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#openstack-nova - 2019-04-25
00:18:56 mriedem was sure that would explode in devstack setup
00:19:12 mriedem dansmith: ^
00:19:28 mriedem looks like the only thing that shit the bed was cold migration testing since tempest doesn't have a toggle for that
00:32:30 mriedem i see why it's failing there, i'm saying resize to same host is ok b/c i only have 1 compute per cell, but you can't cold migrate to the same host with the libvirt driver, that will be fixed with cross-cell resize ftw
00:46:49 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/os-vif master: Refactor functional base test classes https://review.opendev.org/643101
01:03:26 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add nova-multi-cell job https://review.opendev.org/655222
01:09:15 mriedem efried: just fyi i've removed the cross-cell-resize series from the runway slot (time expired) and added https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-host-and-hypervisor-hostname-flag-to-create-server
01:09:17 mriedem boxiang: ^
01:09:30 mriedem https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-train
01:52:50 melwitt lyarwood, mriedem: ceph dashboard fix attempt https://review.opendev.org/655591
03:08:40 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/stein: Fix {min|max}_version in ironic Adapter setup https://review.opendev.org/655429
03:08:46 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/rocky: Fix regression in glance client call https://review.opendev.org/655167
07:44:21 kashyap efried: Hehe, I learnt a new expression, "one-armed-wallpaperer" (or "one-armed paper hanger", I see).
08:23:10 kashyap efried: sean-k-mooney: Just looked at at the video models thing: yes, it makes sense to add the me, FWIW. However, I'd appreciate a one-line summary of each of the three models being added in the BP
08:23:44 kashyap efried: sean-k-mooney E.g. "The 'none' video model type disables the automatic addition of a video device to domains with 'graphics' specified in their XML. This can be useful with GPU mediated devices which can serve as the only rendering devices within the guest."
08:23:57 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Prevent "qbr" Linux Bridge from replying to ARP messages https://review.opendev.org/655332
09:00:19 gibi efried, mriedem: regarding the length of the PTG slot :1330-1415: Let's plan the next steps of the bandwidth support feature (gibi)
09:01:04 gibi efried, mriedem: I think we can speed things up, so we can be done in ~15-20 mins
09:25:16 aspiers check jobs seem pretty flakey at the moment
09:25:35 aspiers it's not normal to need 2 rechecks, right?
09:30:31 aspiers kashyap: any idea? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655268/2 keeps getting V-1 for no good reason AFAICS
09:31:01 kashyap aspiers: Sometimes is completely "normal" to require more than 2 rechecks :-(
09:31:07 aspiers :-(
09:31:35 aspiers This is an awesome technique for dealing with troublesome CI https://cfp.all-systems-go.io/ASG2018/talk/207/
09:31:51 aspiers I think until OpenStack has something like that, flakey gates will always remain common
09:31:54 kashyap I don't have any bright ideas (besides "recheck and pray to the JuJu at the bottom of the sea"). I've experienced the same in the past.
09:32:45 aspiers Using ML means the "flakes" can be clustered automatically (unsupervised) which then means it's crystal clear which flakes cause the most failures and require the most human attention to fix
09:33:07 aspiers That way we could get to the long tail of weird corner cases quicker
09:33:39 aspiers e.g. one flake might cause 30% of failures, and another 0.3%
09:33:56 aspiers but until you gather stats on that, it's hard to know where to put effort
09:34:27 aspiers elastic recheck aims for that of course, but it requires manual maintenance
09:35:38 kashyap aspiers: Yeah, suggest it on the 'openstack-discuss' list, if you have a minute to write the email
10:03:27 aspiers kashyap: might be better to find mtreinish and the infra folks in Denver next week first
10:03:36 aspiers I've already reached out to the cockpit project
10:03:41 aspiers no reply yet
10:04:32 aspiers kashyap: when you get a moment, reviews on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655268/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/633855/ would be much appreciated ;-)
10:05:08 kashyap aspiers: Will do. Currently doing something I promised efried that I'll address (in my own spec, though) today. Trying to keep the word. :D
10:05:35 aspiers sure, good luck with it :)
10:26:06 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Standardize CPU resource tracking https://review.opendev.org/555081
10:33:18 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/os-resource-classes master: Add MEM_ENCRYPTION_CONTEXT resource class https://review.opendev.org/655665
10:46:38 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Standardize CPU resource tracking https://review.opendev.org/555081
10:46:49 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: You're mostly happy with ^ at this point, I assume?
10:47:16 sean-k-mooney ya mostly
10:47:23 stephenfin I've added more words and fixed the typos to assuage efried's concerns (I hope)
10:47:36 sean-k-mooney i was going to suggest using a different threath the HW_CPU_HYPERTHREADING
10:47:43 sean-k-mooney but its already in os traits
10:47:50 sean-k-mooney e.g. HW_CPU_SMT
10:48:00 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: We could just _not_ use that?
10:48:18 sean-k-mooney then we have another dead trait in plamcent
10:48:20 stephenfin Or even remove it if no-one else is using it yet
10:48:24 sean-k-mooney *os-traits
10:48:55 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: we cant remove traits from os-traits
10:49:06 sean-k-mooney its an add only model
10:49:23 stephenfin if no one is using it anywhere though?
10:49:26 sean-k-mooney to simplfy db updates
10:49:27 stephenfin and never has
10:49:32 stephenfin Oh, there's a DB involved
10:49:33 sean-k-mooney even then
10:49:36 sean-k-mooney ya
10:49:42 aspiers stephenfin: you're repeating an earlier discussion ;-)
10:49:48 aspiers this is now mentioned in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/train/approved/amd-sev-libvirt-support.html
10:49:56 aspiers I asked the exact same question a few days ago
10:50:01 sean-k-mooney yep
10:50:03 stephenfin Fair. I'd also be ok with a dead trait, tbh, but I also don't care that much
10:50:16 sean-k-mooney im fine with hte hyperthreaing one
10:50:25 aspiers I think dead traits can be hidden to the point that they're only visible in the os-traits code where hardly anyone looks
10:50:29 sean-k-mooney people use it as a generic term even if it is a threadmark
10:50:34 aspiers well I suppose they're visible via introspection too
10:50:40 stephenfin fwiw, I tried to use SMT in the documentation e.g. https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/cpu-topologies.html
10:51:03 sean-k-mooney yes i know and you gave a talk on the topic
10:51:36 stephenfin indeed :)
10:51:59 sean-k-mooney so ya i was in the middel of reading v27
10:52:08 sean-k-mooney ill skim through v28
10:52:34 stephenfin Yeah, spotted an issue with my description of that trait, actually :)
10:52:50 stephenfin I must admit, I really don't like Gerrit for doc reviews :-\
10:53:03 sean-k-mooney why
10:53:16 stephenfin It's too hard to keep track of conversations
10:53:24 sean-k-mooney you jut have to wait a bit and collect the changes
10:53:26 aspiers stephenfin: that's because we're using an ancient Gerrit
10:53:33 aspiers Gerrit 2.16 is awesome
10:53:43 stephenfin aspiers: Oh yeah? Anything specific?
10:53:45 sean-k-mooney we are using 2.13
10:53:49 stephenfin The polymer UI?
10:53:54 aspiers stephenfin: much more than that
10:54:28 aspiers https://review.gerrithub.io/q/status:open
10:55:07 sean-k-mooney whats so different about that
10:55:10 aspiers https://youtu.be/WsPhoPGUsss?t=9m47s
10:55:32 aspiers https://youtu.be/WsPhoPGUsss?t=19m10s
10:55:37 sean-k-mooney that is just the polomer ui + a theme
10:55:40 aspiers nope
10:56:17 stephenfin aspiers: Oh, nice
10:56:19 aspiers this is just one of many specific improvements
10:56:28 aspiers I can't list them all for you
10:56:31 stephenfin Resolvable comments are indeed one of the things I'd like
10:56:38 stephenfin I like that in gdocs
10:58:06 aspiers also bear in mind those videos are 1.5 years old now
10:58:19 stephenfin yeah, so things will have moved on a lot since then
10:58:21 aspiers OpenStack really REALLY needs a Gerrit upgrade
10:58:45 stephenfin I imagine the infra folks are snowed under with the opendev migration but this sure would be a nice next step
10:58:47 sean-k-mooney aspiers: we used to have some downstream only changes

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