| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2019-04-25 | |||
| 10:48:20 | stephenfin | Or even remove it if no-one else is using it yet | |
| 10:48:24 | sean-k-mooney | *os-traits | |
| 10:48:55 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: we cant remove traits from os-traits | |
| 10:49:06 | sean-k-mooney | its an add only model | |
| 10:49:23 | stephenfin | if no one is using it anywhere though? | |
| 10:49:26 | sean-k-mooney | to simplfy db updates | |
| 10:49:27 | stephenfin | and never has | |
| 10:49:32 | stephenfin | Oh, there's a DB involved | |
| 10:49:33 | sean-k-mooney | even then | |
| 10:49:36 | sean-k-mooney | ya | |
| 10:49:42 | aspiers | stephenfin: you're repeating an earlier discussion ;-) | |
| 10:49:48 | aspiers | this is now mentioned in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/train/approved/amd-sev-libvirt-support.html | |
| 10:49:56 | aspiers | I asked the exact same question a few days ago | |
| 10:50:01 | sean-k-mooney | yep | |
| 10:50:03 | stephenfin | Fair. I'd also be ok with a dead trait, tbh, but I also don't care that much | |
| 10:50:16 | sean-k-mooney | im fine with hte hyperthreaing one | |
| 10:50:25 | aspiers | I think dead traits can be hidden to the point that they're only visible in the os-traits code where hardly anyone looks | |
| 10:50:29 | sean-k-mooney | people use it as a generic term even if it is a threadmark | |
| 10:50:34 | aspiers | well I suppose they're visible via introspection too | |
| 10:50:40 | stephenfin | fwiw, I tried to use SMT in the documentation e.g. https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/cpu-topologies.html | |
| 10:51:03 | sean-k-mooney | yes i know and you gave a talk on the topic | |
| 10:51:36 | stephenfin | indeed :) | |
| 10:51:59 | sean-k-mooney | so ya i was in the middel of reading v27 | |
| 10:52:08 | sean-k-mooney | ill skim through v28 | |
| 10:52:34 | stephenfin | Yeah, spotted an issue with my description of that trait, actually :) | |
| 10:52:50 | stephenfin | I must admit, I really don't like Gerrit for doc reviews :-\ | |
| 10:53:03 | sean-k-mooney | why | |
| 10:53:16 | stephenfin | It's too hard to keep track of conversations | |
| 10:53:24 | sean-k-mooney | you jut have to wait a bit and collect the changes | |
| 10:53:26 | aspiers | stephenfin: that's because we're using an ancient Gerrit | |
| 10:53:33 | aspiers | Gerrit 2.16 is awesome | |
| 10:53:43 | stephenfin | aspiers: Oh yeah? Anything specific? | |
| 10:53:45 | sean-k-mooney | we are using 2.13 | |
| 10:53:49 | stephenfin | The polymer UI? | |
| 10:53:54 | aspiers | stephenfin: much more than that | |
| 10:54:28 | aspiers | https://review.gerrithub.io/q/status:open | |
| 10:55:07 | sean-k-mooney | whats so different about that | |
| 10:55:10 | aspiers | https://youtu.be/WsPhoPGUsss?t=9m47s | |
| 10:55:32 | aspiers | https://youtu.be/WsPhoPGUsss?t=19m10s | |
| 10:55:37 | sean-k-mooney | that is just the polomer ui + a theme | |
| 10:55:40 | aspiers | nope | |
| 10:56:17 | stephenfin | aspiers: Oh, nice | |
| 10:56:19 | aspiers | this is just one of many specific improvements | |
| 10:56:28 | aspiers | I can't list them all for you | |
| 10:56:31 | stephenfin | Resolvable comments are indeed one of the things I'd like | |
| 10:56:38 | stephenfin | I like that in gdocs | |
| 10:58:06 | aspiers | also bear in mind those videos are 1.5 years old now | |
| 10:58:19 | stephenfin | yeah, so things will have moved on a lot since then | |
| 10:58:21 | aspiers | OpenStack really REALLY needs a Gerrit upgrade | |
| 10:58:45 | stephenfin | I imagine the infra folks are snowed under with the opendev migration but this sure would be a nice next step | |
| 10:58:47 | sean-k-mooney | aspiers: we used to have some downstream only changes | |
| 10:59:05 | sean-k-mooney | because we need to fix bug that had not merged upstream | |
| 10:59:07 | aspiers | stephenfin: yeah. it will happen | |
| 10:59:18 | stephenfin | big changes in 3.0 too, from the looks of things https://www.gerritcodereview.com/3.0.html | |
| 10:59:19 | sean-k-mooney | im not sure what is left to get upstream at this point | |
| 10:59:25 | aspiers | sean-k-mooney: if a patch to 2.13 hasn't landed by now, it never will | |
| 10:59:45 | sean-k-mooney | aspiers: yes which may mean we never update | |
| 10:59:59 | aspiers | sean-k-mooney: highly doubt that | |
| 11:00:20 | sean-k-mooney | there were one or two that we need to work at our scalse in the past the got push back which stop openstack updating | |
| 11:00:25 | aspiers | clarkb / corvus / fungi started working on it a long time ago | |
| 11:00:38 | sean-k-mooney | but i think most of that has gone upstream now | |
| 11:00:49 | aspiers | sean-k-mooney: yeah, we're not the biggest Gerrit user | |
| 11:01:03 | aspiers | there are several other huge scale installs | |
| 11:01:08 | aspiers | I met them all at the conference | |
| 11:01:19 | sean-k-mooney | i think we were 6 years ago when i started on openstack | |
| 11:01:21 | aspiers | and the others are all head in terms of HA too | |
| 11:01:30 | aspiers | ahead | |
| 11:01:38 | aspiers | Google is heavily investing in Gerrit | |
| 11:01:46 | aspiers | they have a team of 20 or so IIRC | |
| 11:02:13 | aspiers | stephenfin: 3.0 is more about ditching the dead stuff which everyone will have migrated off of by 2.16 | |
| 11:02:25 | stephenfin | looks like it, yeah | |
| 11:02:37 | stephenfin | I'd imagine we'll be getting 2.16 first, in that case | |
| 11:03:12 | aspiers | for sure | |
| 11:12:37 | openstackgerrit | Adam Spiers proposed openstack/os-traits master: Update SEV trait docs to avoid misleading people https://review.opendev.org/655671 | |
| 11:19:33 | openstackgerrit | Adam Spiers proposed openstack/os-traits master: Document policy of never removing traits https://review.opendev.org/655673 | |
| 11:23:27 | openstackgerrit | Adam Spiers proposed openstack/os-traits master: Document policy of never removing traits https://review.opendev.org/655673 | |
| 11:36:23 | openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif stable/stein: Prevent "qbr" Linux Bridge from replying to ARP messages https://review.opendev.org/655678 | |
| 11:36:38 | openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add "CPU selection with hypervisor consideration" spec https://review.opendev.org/645814 | |
| 11:36:50 | kashyap | efried: As promised ^^ | |
| 11:38:37 | jaypipes | efried: morning. sorry, just saw your question from yesterday evening. | |
| 11:39:24 | jaypipes | efried: I'll be leaving around 1:30-2pm on the Friday. I'll just make do with side conversations etc at the summit about the various specs I'm concerned about (and continue to add reviews to said specs) | |
| 11:41:12 | sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: i think efried has tried to front load most of the topic that are in your usuall area. not sure they all fit | |
| 11:41:45 | sean-k-mooney | one thing i think will come up in the feeback session is the ptg and summit should over lap again | |
| 11:42:22 | sean-k-mooney | we will see but the room was pretty split at the last ptg on that topic | |
| 11:43:18 | jaypipes | ack | |
| 12:05:48 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Fix regression in glance client call https://review.opendev.org/655186 | |
| 12:10:29 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: libvirt: disconnect volume when encryption fails https://review.opendev.org/653033 | |
| 12:23:37 | fungi | aspiers: stephenfin: sean-k-mooney: yes, current plan i think is going straight from 2.13 to 2.16 we just need to re-test the upgrade process on our staging server. the transition from mysql to notedb is going to be the biggest challenge as it will likely require a day-long service outage to complete | |
| 12:24:13 | fungi | we didn't want to conflate that work with the opendev switch for gerrit/git, but this ptg will be the time to make plans | |
| 12:24:47 | sean-k-mooney | is there an infra meetup at the ptg or just people will be about so it will come up | |
| 12:25:15 | fungi | infra is meeting thursday and friday all day (we share a room with qa) | |
| 12:25:25 | sean-k-mooney | ah ok | |
| 12:26:37 | sean-k-mooney | i kind of want to get a bit more involved with the infra side of things but on the other hand was not sure how to go about that so i was just going to say hi | |
| 12:54:05 | kashyap | fungi: What is "notedb"? /me looks up | |
| 12:54:42 | kashyap | Okay, it is this: "NoteDb is the next generation of Gerrit storage backend, which replaces the traditional SQL backend ..." | |
| 12:54:45 | kashyap | https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/Documentation/note-db.html | |
| 12:55:40 | fungi | kashyap: yep, basically we'll be etl'ing gigabytes of data from an rdbms into git repositories | |
| 12:55:50 | fungi | not a speedy process | |
| 12:57:39 | fungi | at one point the upgrade process was necessary to be performed stepwise first moving some of the data into an h2 database and then moving it from there into git in a subsequent gerrit version, but we hear they've added the ability to migrate directly from sql to notedb now so it may go a lot more quickly, we just need to test | |
| 13:05:00 | stephenfin | fungi: Thanks for the context. That's all very good to hear :) | |