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#openstack-nova - 2018-09-06
14:00:26 mriedem yeah me neither
14:00:37 mriedem i'm just not interested in working
14:03:08 mriedem damn gibi is gone
14:03:15 mriedem need a re-+2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599744/
14:03:41 mriedem alex_xu: or you can proxy gibi's +2 and approve ^ since he was +2 before i removed the try/except stuff
14:04:37 openstackgerrit Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: hyper-v: autospec classes before they are instantiated https://review.openstack.org/342211
14:05:39 dansmith mriedem: so that online migration has to be removed when the split happens yeah?
14:07:20 mriedem dansmith: yup
14:07:30 mriedem i don't know how we're going to do those
14:07:31 dansmith ah, I guess this is all within placement tables anyway?
14:07:39 mriedem yeah
14:07:41 dansmith I was thinking this had to cross-reference nova and placement things
14:07:58 dansmith okay, so placement'll need a way to trigger this beyond that I suppose
14:08:35 cdent i've started some _very_ hand-wavey motions in the direction of a placement-manage
14:09:01 mriedem cdent: efried: the reshaper item ~L269 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein should probably move to the retrospective etherpad?
14:09:06 mriedem it's more of a retrospective item right?
14:09:55 efried mriedem: okay
14:10:07 sahid efried: i shared my idea
14:10:10 efried which, if we do that, will let cdent keep the reins
14:10:10 cdent yeah, I think that existed before the retro etherpad did. and the retro etherpad needs friends
14:12:12 mriedem so i guess i'll move it
14:12:30 mriedem done
14:12:57 efried thanks matt
14:22:38 openstackgerrit Vladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: Fix resource tracker updates during instance evacuation https://review.openstack.org/600425
14:29:07 stephenfin efried: We shouldn't be dropping 'default' on that patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592243/
14:38:32 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: add caching to _build_regex_range https://review.openstack.org/599071
14:42:11 sean-k-mooney efried: alex_xu ^ i have made this use just a dictonry as a cache. im still getting a reasonable speedup, we may want to consider going to the global cache at a later point but this is simpler solution for now
14:52:40 mriedem oh boy the age old "should every commit be deployable" question is being debated in the tc channel
14:53:50 melwitt recently penick was talking about having a new cluster that deploys trunk
15:00:19 efried stephenfin: The problem with the default being [] is that it makes you think you can use square brackets to define a list, which you can't. And back in PS2 where they were trying to fix the code so that it *would* accept square brackets, I told them to quit because we don't want to be spending more resources working on this code. Which of course we now are :(
15:01:00 stephenfin efried: Ah, this is the bug in the oslo.config sphinxext module, right?
15:01:10 bauzas efried: dansmith: mriedem: others, sorry had to leave urgently because I missed my kids at schoold
15:01:25 bauzas I'm fine with punting the question about PCI future at the pth
15:01:27 bauzas pth
15:01:29 bauzas shit
15:01:30 bauzas ptg
15:02:06 bauzas but my take on it is "we can do some generic device refactoring in nova, while cyborg raises up"
15:02:15 bauzas I don't think it's a problem to us
15:02:20 bauzas and the community
15:02:49 efried bauzas: Okay, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/ when you get a chance then.
15:03:18 efried stephenfin: I don't think it has to do with sphinxext
15:03:53 efried stephenfin: If the default is [] I would think the sphinx doc should display it as []. But that's the confusing part (to the user).
15:04:42 mriedem efried: btw, i don't mean to minimize your gpu/pci/cyborg thing, i was just airing out my anxiety over the amount of stuff we have loaded up
15:04:58 mriedem which mostly makes me want to crawl in a hole
15:07:19 efried mriedem: Duly noted. But I should point out that I am expected to be making certain things happen to the benefit of those who sign my paycheck. I.e. I'm not totally free to work on a thing just because it's deemed a priority for nova-at-large, if that is to the exclusion of working on a thing that's a slightly-lesser-priority-for-nova-but-#1-priority-for-employer.
15:07:56 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Configure placement DB context manager for nova-manage/status https://review.openstack.org/600464
15:07:57 mriedem efried: yup i know, same here
15:08:53 bauzas heh, we're all on the same boat
15:09:05 dansmith heh
15:09:32 bauzas or you would see me more often
15:16:42 mriedem well,
15:16:48 mriedem we don't all get august off...
15:26:23 bauzas mriedem: touché, my point being on the 45 other weeks :p
15:30:29 efried stephenfin: Hm, actually it looks like there *is* a sphinx bug https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#pci <== the default is showing up as u'' here
15:31:08 efried I mean, it's still confusing if you're looking at the source; not sure how many admins do that vs looking at the html.
15:31:13 efried and if that bug gets fixed...
15:33:34 dansmith mriedem: looks like the latest rev of the configurable instance list behavior is failing unit tests
15:33:54 dansmith she's out until next week, but maybe we can get that landed then, if I don't get a chance to fix some trivial test failure before then
15:34:17 mriedem landed in denver you mean?
15:34:20 mriedem i saw the tests failing
15:35:22 dansmith landed in denver yeah
15:36:34 dansmith hmm, it's in the middle of her stack now,
15:36:38 dansmith which is probably why it's breaking
15:36:47 dansmith I dunno why
15:36:58 dansmith why it's in the middle I mean
15:50:18 cdent sigh, how we supposed to think about forum when the ptg hasn't even happened yet?
15:50:35 mriedem guh so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585475/ is still failing
15:51:06 mriedem gmann: do you have any ideas on the tempest test failing your change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585475/ ?
15:51:39 mriedem cdent: oh that's easy
15:52:09 mriedem nova at the edge, LTS releases, API v3, <insert generic thing that will never amount to anything>
15:52:22 mriedem oh FFU
15:52:27 mriedem can't forget FFU
15:52:33 mriedem FFU & U!
15:53:02 mriedem well, i can't say they won't amount to anything, they will amount to SIG formation where those SIGs don't do anything
16:04:51 mriedem melwitt: looks like we need a rocky series for novaclient bug tracking https://launchpad.net/python-novaclient
16:05:19 melwitt mriedem: oh, I missed that
16:05:44 melwitt poor ol novaclient
16:06:40 melwitt need to do all our libs actually
16:12:55 melwitt mriedem: added rocky and stein to novaclient
16:13:35 mriedem thanks
16:16:06 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: fup: Fix import order and test nit https://review.openstack.org/600474
16:18:11 melwitt looks like the other libs (os-traits, os-vif, placement-osc-plugin) just follow "trunk" and no series needed? it's not consistent
16:26:55 nicolasbock Hi, say I was hit by https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1709902 and have a few VMs now that are running somewhere where they are not supposed to
16:26:55 openstack Launchpad bug 1709902 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "source host allocation not cleaned up in placement after evacuation" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)
16:27:25 nicolasbock How would I get them to be correctly registered again?
16:36:48 stephenfin efried: Sorry, was on a call (and follow-ups). Yeah, I think you mentioned that issue before to me, hence why I brought it up again
16:37:18 efried stephenfin: It didn't sound familiar, so if I brought it up, I purged the memory.
16:37:52 efried stephenfin: See latest comment, not sure where to go from here. Back to PS2, or put really awkward words in, or <something else>...?
16:38:18 stephenfin efried: But, as you've summarized on the review, using that default is the correct thing to do. Confusingly, the default reflects the _processed_ result, i.e. once oslo.config has gone and merged all those disparate 'alias' values into one list
16:38:59 stephenfin efried: I'm also not 100% sure that the bug upstream is a bug as it's hiding the above fact from the user
16:39:29 efried Well, the bug just complains that you break if you use square brackets. Which is true.
16:39:31 stephenfin efried: The changes they've made to the help text are valid and should be retained. It's just the changes to default that need to be removed
16:39:43 stephenfin efried: In nova.conf?
16:39:49 efried yeah
16:40:06 efried it breaks when we try to process it.
16:40:12 efried not an oslo problem, a nova problem.
16:40:14 stephenfin efried: Yeah, then our docs are wrong. We never supported use of list values for that option
16:40:22 stephenfin Yup, a nova docs problem
16:41:08 stephenfin Fixing this by adding processing of lists would be a feature, not a bug fix, as you've pointed out. Fixing it by correcting the docs, on the other hand, is a must do
16:43:09 stephenfin efried: That make sense?

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