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#openstack-nova - 2017-04-21
09:02:15 cdent the directory thing causes a different issue
09:02:19 bauzas asettle: where Puppet nukes that file and replaces by a correct config
09:02:26 asettle Okay
09:02:38 bauzas cdent: probably, have very few context
09:02:48 bauzas cdent: just saying that RDO .rpms aren't working anyway
09:02:52 cdent here's another semi-related thing the other day that I made: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1441200
09:02:53 openstack bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1441200 in openstack-nova "openstack-placement-api.conf not configured properly by the openstack-nova-placement-api rpm" [Unspecified,Post] - Assigned to nlevinki
09:03:13 cdent sorry, I mean this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1441208
09:03:13 openstack bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1441208 in openstack-nova "placement api apache configuration does not align with documentation, ensure system does not work" [High,Closed: duplicate] - Assigned to nlevinki
09:03:49 bauzas cdent: BZ1441200 points to the same fix for RDO than 1434944 for resolution
09:03:55 cdent the first one is a duplicate of the one I created, mine has more context
09:04:17 cdent bauzas: I'm providing these so asettle has context, which is what was asked for, not to find the right bug
09:04:28 asettle Yep, context me ahoy.
09:04:31 asettle Thanks cdent
09:04:40 bauzas cdent: np, just trying to understand the missing bits and the resolution path
09:05:21 cdent asettle: in my bug report there are a lot of lurking "warnings"
09:06:40 bauzas anyway, seems like the RDO fix needs to be aligned with docs, or the other way
09:06:52 bauzas since both are pulling on two different directions
09:07:07 asettle I completely agree.
09:07:22 bauzas but FWIW, whatever lands in RDO needs to properly amend the upstream docs, I do agree
09:07:35 bauzas if those docs become wrong of course
09:07:36 asettle Provided we're not going to have substantially broken docs for another month, I'm happy to do what we need to do.
09:10:56 bauzas asettle: cdent: we have an internal bug triaging meeting today, will raise it up
09:11:05 cdent bauzas++
09:11:22 asettle Thank you bauzas :)
09:11:32 asettle Could you keep us up to date on the launchpad bug if I'm not around?
09:11:39 bauzas we = Nova team in Red Hat, not RDO team
09:11:39 asettle I mean, I'm sure I will be :(
09:12:30 bauzas asettle: that's at 1400UTC
09:12:37 asettle Lovely. Just in time for tea.
09:12:59 cdent asettle: I think it is pretty clear that the communication for "how to do placement" went awry to many parties over the past... six months? So we can probably do some kind of retrospective or something to figure out what to do better in the future. From my standpoint I didn't have enough insight into the process and made too many assumptions about it being under control
09:13:42 bauzas cdent: well, mostly because that's deployment choices
09:14:09 bauzas cdent: so that's hard to find a common denominator for all
09:14:37 bauzas and we all say that Service Catalog serves the purpose to enable services the way you want
09:14:49 cdent bauzas: sure, but I think there's been a lot of confusion that we could have made less of a problem. The <Directory> thing, for example, seems like something that never should have happened because when that's wrong things simply don't work.
09:15:10 bauzas so, you, as a deployer, just needs to make consistent what you have in your service catalog entry and what you configure server-side
09:15:41 asettle cdent: thanks for your honesty. What can I do to help?
09:16:00 bauzas cdent: the port discussion clearly showed up that a lot people were having wrong expectations
09:16:33 bauzas the fact that the service catalog exists is for the exact reason that you can provide any endpoint you want
09:16:52 bauzas this is not aimed to be consistent across all openstack deployments
09:17:13 cdent bauzas: yes, I know, I'm not suggesting we change any of that. but the docs process has been more fraught with error than it should have been. we should figure out why and try to make it better
09:17:17 cdent asettle: will you be in boston?
09:17:29 bauzas and application developers wanting to integrate with APIs need to use the Service Catalog as the discovery system
09:17:29 asettle cdent: sure will be. You?
09:18:09 cdent yup, we should gather and chat
09:18:17 bauzas cdent: sure, I guess that's the crux of providing upstream documentation that sets kind of de-facto standard
09:19:15 asettle Okay, let's aim for that. I've got a shitty tight schedule Mon - Wed with updates and all that jazz.
09:19:29 asettle But I'm there until Friday :)
09:19:41 asettle bauzas: you gonna be there?
09:20:17 bauzas yup
09:20:33 bauzas we have a couple of sessions around placement
09:20:39 asettle Lucky meeee
09:20:48 bauzas both in the Forum and the conference itself
09:21:15 bauzas like, jay (pipes) has 2 sessions for talking $placement, one targeted for users and architects, the other more for devs
09:21:17 asettle Well, it should be interesting.
09:21:19 bauzas 2 talks
09:21:33 asettle Okay. Well. I'll try and make sure I get along to some of them. I'm a bit of a lone wolf this summit.
09:33:08 openstackgerrit fengzhr proposed openstack/nova master: Modify the description of flat_injected in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/458789
09:35:07 frickler it seems that the scheduler docs are outdated, can anyone confirm that it should mention e.g. filter_scheduler.enabled_filters instead of scheduler_default_filters here? https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/compute/schedulers.html
09:35:33 frickler I'm also struggling to get scheduling to a specific az to work with Ocata, are there known issues?
09:39:44 frickler bauzas: cdent: regarding deployment of placement-api, are end users supposed to talk to it or would it rather be for admins/operators only? i.e. do I really need to deploy a public endpoint for it or would I rather only do an internal one?
09:40:52 cdent frickler: it is admin _for now_ but the expectation is that might change in the future, as having dashboard views over one's own usage is expected
09:42:32 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Detach volumes on _rebuild_default_impl failure https://review.openstack.org/442105
09:42:33 frickler cdent: ah, that is a good point, so a public endpoint will make sense in the long run.
09:42:46 cdent frickler: another one of the things that might happen in the future warnings (like described above with asettle) is that the preference is for interface type to notmatter
09:42:55 cdent but that's a long way off
09:46:18 asettle Hey cdent since you're loving doc nova bugs, want another one? :D
09:46:37 cdent asettle: I can certainly look, but I'm making no promises
09:46:44 asettle Hooray!
09:46:46 asettle :p thanks
09:46:47 asettle https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1683104
09:46:47 openstack Launchpad bug 1683104 in openstack-manuals "instance is not created rightly" [Undecided,New]
09:47:00 asettle I'm not convinced of this one, let's put it that way
09:47:57 asettle But, my nova deep dive konwledge is bad :(
09:48:06 cdent mine too!
09:49:36 cdent asettle: heh, interesting. their solution works but is undesirable :)
09:49:40 cdent s
09:50:10 asettle cdent: I guess my real concern is whether or not what we have is going to work or not.
09:51:03 cdent asettle: while the apache configuration is incorrect things will not work and the bugs that cascade from that will be various
09:51:15 asettle -.-
09:51:33 cdent the original cause of this person's problem is that their apache config is wrong and they have worked around it by not using apache at all for the placement service
09:52:00 asettle Well, that's info I can work with.
09:52:11 asettle Okay.
09:52:18 asettle Thanks cdent. I can reply to the reporter with that :)
09:52:32 asettle Unless you've already said something?
09:52:43 cdent I've started something, yeah, but haven't finished it yet
09:52:50 asettle Okay :) tahnks cdent I appreciate this
09:56:47 cdent asettle: I left a comment but more might be needed
09:59:18 asettle cdent: lgtm.
09:59:45 asettle Thanks again :)
10:00:33 cdent asettle: you're very welcome
10:00:39 asettle I owe you and bauzas a drink
10:34:48 openstackgerrit jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for limits endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/458805
10:37:24 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add keypairs field to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/419730
10:37:25 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Adding auto_disk_config field to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/419185
10:37:27 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Adding tags field to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/407228
10:59:52 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add keypairs field to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/419730
10:59:53 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Adding auto_disk_config field to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/419185
10:59:54 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: add tags field to instance.update notification https://review.openstack.org/407228
11:11:47 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Always disconnect_volume after rebase failures https://review.openstack.org/458807

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