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#openstack-nova - 2017-03-21
17:37:35 dane-fichter johnthetubaguy: but there's no real reason other than the semantics of download() that all drivers can't support this
17:38:04 dane-fichter johnthetubguy: seems like we should just modify download() to take the instance or flavor object as well
17:38:09 johnthetubaguy dane-fichter: oh, yes, agreed with you, well not all drivers use that download() method, the ones that do can support it
17:38:35 dane-fichter johnthetubaguy: ohh was not aware of that
17:39:01 sfinucan sgordon: Done
17:39:30 dane-fichter johnthetubaguy: so we could probably do both things here; use driver capabilities to prevent unsupported drivers from booting trusted flavors
17:39:37 johnthetubaguy dane-fichter: xenapi has its own in hypervisor route, to avoid a double hop, because nova-compute doesn't run somewhere with access to the hypervisor disk
17:40:15 johnthetubaguy dane-fichter: yeah, sounds like we are talking slightly cross purposes in there, agreed with with doing both things
17:40:58 johnthetubaguy dane-fichter: honestly, lots of that detail we can leave till code review, its just a saw detail in the spec that didn't look quite right to me, if that makes sense
17:41:37 dane-fichter johnthetubaguy: yeah. so maybe just tone down the detail in that implementation steps section?
17:42:08 dane-fichter johnthetubaguy: i'll definitely specify the driver capabilities wrinkle
17:42:41 johnthetubaguy dane-fichter: yeah, I think we need to add how to deal with "strange" virt drivers, but yeah the method calls and where the code exactly lives probable best left till later
17:43:49 johnthetubaguy s/probable/probably/
17:44:44 dane-fichter johnthetubaguy: yes, agreed. thanks john
17:45:15 johnthetubaguy dane-fichter: no worries
18:11:26 mriedem sfinucan: i've got to update that bug fix patch, missed a couple tests
18:13:02 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: conditionally set script path for ethernet vif types https://review.openstack.org/448203
18:13:03 mriedem sfinucan: here we go ^
18:17:33 openstackgerrit Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in cells.py https://review.openstack.org/448224
18:18:39 openstackgerrit Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Pre-add functional tests stub to notification testing https://review.openstack.org/448225
18:22:31 dane-fichter mriedem: got a second to discuss the cursive change?
18:22:42 dane-fichter mriedem: this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351232/
18:30:02 mriedem dane-fichter: yeah
18:34:15 openstackgerrit Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Pre-add functional tests stub to notification testing https://review.openstack.org/448225
18:44:48 mriedem sdague: do you have an opinion on how to handle these tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351232/11/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_fields.py
19:06:36 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: console https://review.openstack.org/409402
19:08:32 sdague mriedem: I need a lot more context here
19:09:42 mriedem sdague: the signature_utils stuff is now in a library
19:09:49 mriedem used in nova and glance
19:10:04 mriedem we have versioned objects that use enum fields with values defined in that library now
19:10:31 mriedem we have tests in nova that check to make sure if you update the constants in signature_utils (now the library), we bump the enum lists in the versioned object,
19:10:37 mriedem that was all fine and dandy while it was all within nova,
19:11:11 mriedem but with the constants defined in a library now, it means if the library adds new constants, our unit tests will fail and requires a dance to get things working to use the library in upper-constraints
19:11:16 sdague ok, so don't you want to invert the iteration?
19:11:28 mriedem i left a comment in there about what i think the dance is,
19:11:30 mriedem if we leave things as-is
19:11:34 mriedem and get the constants from the library now
19:11:40 sdague so just test that the enum in Nova are all in in the signature utils lib ?
19:11:57 mriedem other way around,
19:12:09 mriedem the test makes sure that the constants defined in the lib are reflected in our enums,
19:12:13 mriedem which feed into ImageMetaProps
19:12:33 sdague mriedem: ok, I'm not sure why that's actually important to couple here
19:12:45 mriedem so if a new constant is added and released, we can't use that version of the library in upper-constraints until nova makes a change, before g-r is bumped, which is a bit odd
19:12:59 sdague mriedem: yeh, so, that's fine
19:12:59 mriedem i'm not sure it is either
19:13:08 mriedem that's just the way it was when it was all in tree
19:13:24 sdague the whole purpose of decoupling to a library is not to have lock step coupling with projects
19:13:27 mriedem i suppose to keep a reminder that if we support new hash methods and key types that our image meta properties object should also support those
19:13:34 sdague yep
19:13:45 sdague also, it's not like new hash methods just spring forth all the time
19:14:00 mriedem if the library adds new things now, and we don't keep our enums and versioned objects up to date, then i guess someone just has to do that when they actually want to use a new thing in the library
19:14:01 sdague they take years to a decade to proof out
19:14:05 mriedem yeah
19:14:22 mriedem so i'm also ok with just dropping the nova tests i think
19:14:28 sdague so the fact that you add to the lib, then add to the lib consumers, seems fine
19:15:10 mriedem ok so pro-drop the tests and coupling
19:15:26 mriedem that works for me, i just didn't like thinking this through in a vacuum
19:22:50 mriedem dane-fichter: ^ replied in the change too
19:30:11 dane-fichter mriedem: I see. Just read the discussion w sdague too. sounds good.
19:45:55 mriedem gcb: can't we do this now? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tox.ini#L70
19:46:05 mriedem the functional-py35 job is gating on nova
19:46:17 mriedem i'm not sure how basepython would work with that though, or if you just omit it
19:46:38 mriedem we would also have to change the job defintions in project-config if we combined those two jobs
20:05:26 openstackgerrit Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in cells_scheduler.py https://review.openstack.org/448260
20:08:22 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Tests: remove .testrepository/times.dbm in tox.ini (functional) https://review.openstack.org/448266
20:10:50 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/446674
20:11:45 openstackgerrit Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in certificates.py https://review.openstack.org/448267
20:13:50 openstackgerrit Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in cells.py https://review.openstack.org/448224
20:17:14 mriedem sdague: are you going to be submitting a forum session proposal for limits in keystone?
20:30:01 openstackgerrit Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in cloudpipe.py https://review.openstack.org/448271
20:33:35 sdague mriedem: I suppose, I'm still a little confused on content for the forum
20:33:49 mriedem you and me both,
20:33:59 mriedem but it sounds like we start submitting abstracts and then the TC and UC vote on them
20:34:31 mriedem http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2017-March/001856.html
20:34:38 mriedem sessions are proposed here http://forumtopics.openstack.org/
20:35:25 dansmith I'm totally confused
20:35:35 dansmith I put some stuff in an etherpad which was originally requested
20:35:47 mriedem i think the brainstorming etherpads were for project teams to agree on what to submit to http://forumtopics.openstack.org/
20:36:06 mriedem "Starting today, our submission tool is open for you to submit abstracts for the most popular sessions that came out of your brainstorming. *Please note that the etherpads are not being pulled into the submission tool and discussion around which sessions to submit are encouraged.*"
20:36:14 dansmith ah okay
20:36:15 dansmith confusing
20:36:24 mriedem so we'll have one for cells, one for placement and one for limits
20:36:26 mriedem at least
20:36:39 mriedem "We are looking for a good mix of project-specific, cross-project or strategic/whole-of-community discussions, and *sessions that emphasize collaboration between users and developers are most welcome!*"
20:36:42 dansmith mriedem: are you going to do those to avoid overlap or should I put one in there?
20:36:45 mriedem i think those 3 fall into that category
20:36:48 johnthetubaguy I think brainstorming turned into formal submission
20:36:51 johnthetubaguy but I got confused too
20:36:55 bauzas not sure I understand how the Forum works, honestly
20:37:05 mriedem ha, it was so quiet in here for the last several hours
20:37:11 mriedem you were all just lurking
20:37:13 bauzas AFAICU, there are some sessions for newcomers too
20:37:17 mriedem dansmith: submit one for cells
20:37:22 dansmith okay
20:37:22 mriedem bauzas: that's separate
20:37:26 mriedem bauzas: i think anyway
20:37:34 mriedem diablo_rojo is coordinating that
20:37:42 bauzas okay
20:37:49 mriedem but she's not on irc so idk for sure
20:37:55 dansmith mriedem: and this is for user/op interaction, or review of the progress and planning for the rest of the cycle or what?

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