| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-03-21 | |||
| 20:36:24 | mriedem | so we'll have one for cells, one for placement and one for limits | |
| 20:36:26 | mriedem | at least | |
| 20:36:39 | mriedem | "We are looking for a good mix of project-specific, cross-project or strategic/whole-of-community discussions, and *sessions that emphasize collaboration between users and developers are most welcome!*" | |
| 20:36:42 | dansmith | mriedem: are you going to do those to avoid overlap or should I put one in there? | |
| 20:36:45 | mriedem | i think those 3 fall into that category | |
| 20:36:48 | johnthetubaguy | I think brainstorming turned into formal submission | |
| 20:36:51 | johnthetubaguy | but I got confused too | |
| 20:36:55 | bauzas | not sure I understand how the Forum works, honestly | |
| 20:37:05 | mriedem | ha, it was so quiet in here for the last several hours | |
| 20:37:11 | mriedem | you were all just lurking | |
| 20:37:13 | bauzas | AFAICU, there are some sessions for newcomers too | |
| 20:37:17 | mriedem | dansmith: submit one for cells | |
| 20:37:22 | dansmith | okay | |
| 20:37:22 | mriedem | bauzas: that's separate | |
| 20:37:26 | mriedem | bauzas: i think anyway | |
| 20:37:34 | mriedem | diablo_rojo is coordinating that | |
| 20:37:42 | bauzas | okay | |
| 20:37:49 | mriedem | but she's not on irc so idk for sure | |
| 20:37:55 | dansmith | mriedem: and this is for user/op interaction, or review of the progress and planning for the rest of the cycle or what? | |
| 20:38:09 | mriedem | EmilienM: do we need to submit to forumtopis.o.o for the newcomer sessions too? | |
| 20:38:15 | dansmith | so wait, the TC votes on these? | |
| 20:38:30 | mriedem | "After submissions close, a team of representatives from the User Committee, the Technical Committee, and Foundation staff will take the sessions proposed by the community and fill out the schedule." | |
| 20:38:37 | EmilienM | mriedem: yes I think so | |
| 20:38:39 | dansmith | weird | |
| 20:38:49 | mriedem | dansmith: i think cells, placement and limits all fall into the criteria | |
| 20:38:55 | EmilienM | dansmith: some folks will vote yes, and 2 folks from TC, me and Doug AFIK | |
| 20:39:01 | mriedem | for "project-specific, cross-project or strategic/whole-of-community discussions" | |
| 20:39:29 | mriedem | cells is project-specific, placement is cross-project, and limits are whole-of-community | |
| 20:58:53 | bauzas | mriedem: do you see the nova bits of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming do you think it would rather fit in the "real" Forum or the newcomers side rooms ? | |
| 20:59:45 | bauzas | I'm confused, I thought it was intended for the former | |
| 21:01:05 | mriedem | nova bits? | |
| 21:01:10 | mriedem | that's a nova-specific etherpad | |
| 21:01:25 | mriedem | there is nothing in there that's suitable for a newcomer probably | |
| 21:01:33 | bauzas | I agree | |
| 21:02:20 | bauzas | mriedem: IIUC, we would put our items into forumtopics.o.o so the TC/UC/Foundation folks would vote on those | |
| 21:02:54 | bauzas | that doesn't necessarly mean all the items we want to discuss will be accepted then | |
| 21:03:18 | bauzas | and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-TC-brainstorming is already having lots of proposed sessions | |
| 21:03:43 | openstackgerrit | Vivek Agrawal proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec for libvirt driver extension for Veritas HyperScale https://review.openstack.org/430488 | |
| 21:03:58 | mriedem | bauzas: we have 3-4 sessions i think, | |
| 21:04:10 | mriedem | placement (all), cells (all), limits and johnthetubaguy's vm/bm thing | |
| 21:04:24 | mriedem | anything that doesn't get accepted is table talk for the dev cave | |
| 21:04:39 | mriedem | at least that's my understanding | |
| 21:04:48 | bauzas | yeah, that's what I understand | |
| 21:04:53 | mriedem | now having said that, | |
| 21:05:06 | mriedem | dansmith and jaypipes have approved talks for cells and placement already, | |
| 21:05:08 | bauzas | my only concern is that I'm not sure we even have 3-4 slots | |
| 21:05:12 | mriedem | they aren't like design summit | |
| 21:05:15 | mriedem | they are presentations | |
| 21:05:20 | bauzas | I know | |
| 21:05:34 | mriedem | the forum topics are normal fishbowl sessions like before i think | |
| 21:05:47 | mriedem | get devs and ops people together and talk through things for the release | |
| 21:05:52 | bauzas | yeah, it's fishbowls | |
| 21:06:08 | mriedem | what do you mean about your concern that we don't have 3-4 slots? | |
| 21:06:20 | mriedem | we don't have 2 full days of back to back nova sessions anymore, no | |
| 21:06:21 | mriedem | that's the PTG now | |
| 21:06:37 | bauzas | the fact that we would not necessary have all the nova items be covered | |
| 21:06:37 | mriedem | which is why devs don't get funded to go to the summit anymore | |
| 21:07:14 | mriedem | i'm not following you, anything that doesn't have a dedicated session, gets discussed by whoever is there in the dev lounge, or whatever | |
| 21:07:27 | mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113459.html | |
| 21:07:31 | mriedem | "3/ Free hacking/meetup space" | |
| 21:07:39 | mriedem | ^ is where the spill over stuff happens | |
| 21:07:39 | bauzas | it's basically tables in a free room | |
| 21:07:42 | mriedem | with just devs | |
| 21:07:44 | mriedem | yes | |
| 21:07:47 | mriedem | not scheduled | |
| 21:08:20 | mriedem | i think the entire point of the forum is to get the devs out of the cave, | |
| 21:08:24 | mriedem | and into gen pop | |
| 21:08:36 | bauzas | even if I wasn't expecting a lot of devs at the event, I was still thinking we could do some sprint there | |
| 21:08:39 | mriedem | so there won't be as much time to just sit around and talk through technical things that are going on in the release, | |
| 21:08:47 | mriedem | there will be time for some of that, but not nearly as much as the old design summit | |
| 21:09:06 | mriedem | johnthetubaguy: sdague: ttx: ^ is this all your understanding as well? | |
| 21:10:13 | bauzas | well, I guess my concern is rather about the possibility to have an intermediate f2f meeting with folks to discuss about priorities updates | |
| 21:10:23 | bauzas | and possible tech discussions | |
| 21:10:45 | bauzas | but yeah, I got the message that Forum is not intented for devs just working in their cave | |
| 21:10:46 | cdent | oog like cave | |
| 21:11:16 | mriedem | bauzas: there will be that, when we're not in other sessions | |
| 21:11:39 | mriedem | the 'other' sessions that aren't just nova devs have to be fleshed out and scheduled first, | |
| 21:11:50 | mriedem | then with any free time, we do the priority talk stuff that we'd normally do at a midcycle | |
| 21:11:58 | mriedem | but with like 1/3 of the people | |
| 21:17:41 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney, alex_xu, cdent, edleafe, sfinucan, mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448282 | |
| 21:18:23 | cdent | jaypipes: is that for the future or for The Future™? | |
| 21:18:31 | jaypipes | cdent: The FUTURE. | |
| 21:30:55 | cdent | jaypipes: responded with a while hair | |
| 21:31:06 | cdent | or even a wild hair | |
| 21:47:14 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Warn on usage of _LI/_LW/_LE/_LC https://review.openstack.org/448293 | |
| 21:47:15 | mriedem | sdague: ^ is something worth doing? for the i18n marker stuff. your latest reply in that thread got me thinking about it. | |
| 21:49:17 | dansmith | omg are we really doing that? | |
| 21:49:22 | jroll | mriedem: man, that's gonna blow up the logs | |
| 21:49:24 | jroll | lol | |
| 21:49:33 | mriedem | just an idea fellas | |
| 21:49:48 | jroll | I haven't read sean's email to be fair | |
| 21:49:55 | dansmith | we can thank IBM for: 1. PowerVM driver (removed), 2. DB2 (removed), 3. Lazy log translations (removed) | |
| 21:49:56 | mriedem | at first i just thought about doing _LW = _, etc | |
| 21:50:13 | mriedem | dansmith: this is different from lazy translation | |
| 21:50:31 | dansmith | fine, 3. whatever you call this | |
| 21:50:35 | jroll | it has been ___ days since we removed a bad IBM idea | |
| 21:50:37 | mriedem | that's better | |
| 21:50:40 | dansmith | jroll: lol | |
| 21:51:01 | mriedem | you can thank ibm for me | |
| 21:51:05 | mriedem | right?! | |