| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-03-06 | |||
| 16:36:12 | dansmith | mriedem: it does today | |
| 16:36:23 | dansmith | mriedem: going forward it will point at cell0 | |
| 16:36:34 | mriedem | oh plus compute nodes | |
| 16:36:37 | mriedem | for the scheduler fallback | |
| 16:38:42 | mriedem | johnthetubaguy: would be nice to get these done https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova-specs+branch:master+topic:mova-implemented-ocata-specs | |
| 16:38:50 | mriedem | marks the implemented specs for ocata | |
| 16:42:32 | mriedem | cdent: the placement_database config option is not used at all in code right now, right? | |
| 16:43:27 | cdent | mriedem: ah, you make a very good point | |
| 16:44:19 | mriedem | cdent: you know i'm reviewing that install guide now right? :) | |
| 16:44:21 | cdent | mriedem: are you refering to the docs in progress in the install guides? | |
| 16:44:24 | mriedem | bingo | |
| 16:44:25 | cdent | jinx | |
| 16:45:27 | cdent | thanks for catching that. I was reading through that and thinking "this should all be second nature, but it's not" | |
| 16:47:24 | mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1670419 | |
| 16:47:24 | openstack | Launchpad bug 1670419 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "placement_database config option help is wrong" [Low,Triaged] | |
| 16:47:42 | mriedem | i wonder if we should just remove those options for now since they have some scary help text about saying you should use something separate to avoid messy data migrations | |
| 16:47:45 | mriedem | but we don't actually use the thing | |
| 16:48:01 | mriedem | they could be added back in when https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/optional-placement-database is done | |
| 16:50:42 | cdent | Sigh. I thought when we decided not to use it we had removed all of it, but apparently not. | |
| 16:50:52 | mriedem | i'll remove | |
| 16:50:53 | mriedem | and backport | |
| 16:51:15 | cdent | The code at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362766/ continues to work but the efforts to have some discussion about how to move it forward keep stalling. | |
| 16:52:28 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Check if domain is persistent before detaching volume https://review.openstack.org/441204 | |
| 16:52:48 | johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I can try hit those, just snowed under in 1 million things right now, or feels that way | |
| 16:53:38 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused placement_database config options https://review.openstack.org/442035 | |
| 16:53:46 | mriedem | johnthetubaguy: remember how when we were in ATL and kept telling you to stop signing up for things? | |
| 16:54:04 | johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I wish it was those things that were distracting me, but yeah | |
| 16:54:09 | efried_ | Snow. That must suck. 74 degrees in Austin ;-) | |
| 16:54:45 | johnthetubaguy | mriedem: most of those are dispatched to other folks now though, at least I think so | |
| 17:02:09 | openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova-specs master: SPICE native client support https://review.openstack.org/442040 | |
| 17:02:53 | artom | sgordon, I added you to ^^^, maybe you can help with the use cases. | |
| 17:06:41 | sgordon | artom, ack | |
| 17:07:07 | artom | sgordon, many thanks | |
| 17:11:28 | mriedem | cdent: heh, also, the guide doesn't actually tell you to run placement under wsgi http://docs-draft.openstack.org/28/438328/3/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/319104b//publish-docs/draft/install-guide-ubuntu/nova-controller-install.html#install-and-configure-components | |
| 17:11:32 | mriedem | that section is commented out | |
| 17:11:44 | mriedem | see how that jumps from step 7 to step 1 | |
| 17:12:11 | cdent | mriedem: that's part of why I left the bit about <Directory> | |
| 17:12:42 | cdent | I'm assuming that the deb or rpm packages do the configuration of apache, but are getting it somewhat wrong | |
| 17:12:48 | mriedem | oh | |
| 17:12:56 | mriedem | i forgot about package config magic | |
| 17:13:54 | openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova-specs master: SPICE native client support https://review.openstack.org/442040 | |
| 17:16:10 | mriedem | wow they have placement_database config on the compute nodes too | |
| 17:16:14 | mriedem | that's way off | |
| 17:17:59 | cdent | clearly I need to stop reviewing while on company calls | |
| 17:20:40 | mriedem | spotz: i've gone through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/ | |
| 17:20:45 | mriedem | spotz: there are some clear issues in there | |
| 17:21:35 | spotz | mriedem: I saw your comments thanks! Hopefully we can give it another run through with a better outcome:) | |
| 17:21:47 | mriedem | it's mostly easy stuff, | |
| 17:21:51 | mriedem | and removing quite a few unused things | |
| 17:22:22 | spotz | Stuff that would cause the No valid hosts? I saw another comment that's not just me | |
| 17:23:59 | mriedem | sdague: no more _LE?! | |
| 17:24:11 | sdague | mriedem: well, that's the question | |
| 17:25:39 | mriedem | so, ibm pulled out from translating log messages and now they just don't care, | |
| 17:25:55 | mriedem | from what i remember, i18n of the non-debug log messages was a product priority for ibm several years ago, | |
| 17:26:04 | dansmith | yep | |
| 17:26:06 | mriedem | i.e. ibm products based on openstack required log translation | |
| 17:26:18 | mriedem | so rather than do all of that in-house, we pushed and pushed those teams to upstream the translation work | |
| 17:26:23 | mriedem | now i guess they have dropped out | |
| 17:26:25 | mriedem | so no one cares anymore | |
| 17:26:36 | dansmith | so wait, just to be clear.. 1. PowerVM 1.0, 2. DB@, 3. Log translation.. do I have that right? :) | |
| 17:26:50 | dansmith | heh, DB2 I mean | |
| 17:27:08 | mriedem | i think most ibm products would also have specific codes for errors/warnings/info in user-facing or translated messages | |
| 17:27:19 | mriedem | so the problem of identifying an error on the internet just involves the code | |
| 17:28:30 | cdent | you seen this mriedem? http://172.99.106.155/exceptions/#/ | |
| 17:28:47 | mriedem | nope | |
| 17:28:50 | cdent | (tangentially related) | |
| 17:29:05 | cdent | something ediardo has been working on | |
| 17:29:33 | cdent | with an eye to perhaps connecting it to the links that ought to show up in the structured error responses | |
| 17:29:40 | ediardo | o. | |
| 17:29:44 | ediardo | o/ | |
| 17:30:24 | openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/nova master: Implement interface attach/detach in ironic virt driver https://review.openstack.org/419975 | |
| 17:35:30 | ediardo | Hi cdent! | |
| 17:39:25 | mriedem | sdague: dansmith: replied on that dev ML thread on the i18n stuff. i don't care too much either way, but i will be super annoyed if in a year some workgroup comes back and says they want those again now. | |
| 17:39:51 | mriedem | or are pissed that they were dropped without adequate warning | |
| 17:40:10 | mriedem | edmondsw: powervc might actually care about that ^ | |
| 17:40:17 | dansmith | *nod* | |
| 17:40:38 | mriedem | edmondsw: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113383.html | |
| 17:40:38 | ediardo | The demo in the link above has class names that help users to search for specific errors/warnings found in logs | |
| 17:41:02 | ediardo | classnames are the same, messages could be translated but the classname stays the same | |
| 17:44:54 | dansmith | is it just me or is the flood of garbage before a test run getting worse lately? | |
| 17:57:17 | openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/cells/test_cells_manager.py https://review.openstack.org/399036 | |
| 17:59:10 | mriedem | dansmith: i think you need a new blog post that explains soft delete | |
| 17:59:36 | mriedem | and all of the different meanings that term has :) | |
| 18:01:05 | dansmith | mriedem: hah | |
| 18:17:26 | johnthetubaguy | dansmith: melwitt: I think the ops folks were wanting some help with this session: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-cellsv2 | |
| 18:17:37 | johnthetubaguy | I haven't managed to track down why its happening | |
| 18:18:01 | mriedem | what is that for? | |
| 18:18:06 | dansmith | is that for some meetup/ | |
| 18:18:13 | johnthetubaguy | thats the ops thing in milan, next week I think | |
| 18:18:23 | johnthetubaguy | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup | |
| 18:18:28 | johnthetubaguy | has the extra info | |
| 18:19:04 | dansmith | okay but what sort of help? | |
| 18:19:12 | mriedem | is someone moderating that session? | |
| 18:19:14 | mriedem | on cells v2? | |
| 18:19:25 | mriedem | 3/16 at 9:40am | |
| 18:19:47 | dansmith | italy time? | |
| 18:19:52 | mriedem | i reckon | |
| 18:20:13 | johnthetubaguy | mrhillsman will know whats going on with that | |
| 18:20:28 | johnthetubaguy | yeah, italy (and France) time | |
| 18:20:52 | mriedem | i'll ask in operators | |