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#openstack-nova - 2022-07-20
18:10:16 opendevreview sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: single pass instance info fetch in host manager https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/623558
19:29:31 opendevreview Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: add regression test case for bug 1978983 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/849104
21:09:08 opendevreview Rico Lin proposed openstack/nova master: Add locked_memory extra spec and image property https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778347
21:09:09 opendevreview Rico Lin proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Add vIOMMU device to guest https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/830646
21:09:10 opendevreview Rico Lin proposed openstack/nova master: Add traits for viommu model https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/844507
#openstack-nova - 2022-07-21
07:27:27 gibi o/
07:27:33 bauzas \o
07:29:06 Uggla o/
07:48:49 bauzas hmmmm, Kendall is asking me a few questions about the PTG
07:49:01 bauzas I guess this email was sent to all PTLs
07:49:27 bauzas tl:dr: the Foundation wants to invite ops at the PTG, which I think is an excellent proposal
07:49:55 bauzas but now, in order to make this happen, we somehow have to showcase a bit and think how we could make their trip valuable
07:50:43 bauzas if people are willing to, we can brainstorm a bit about those 4 questions she sent
07:50:55 bauzas 1/ what do we want to hear from ops at the PTG
07:51:08 bauzas 2/ what topics are on our PTG agenda (yet)
07:51:24 bauzas 3/ what are the goals for the Columbus PTG ?
07:52:08 bauzas 4/ what contributors think about an extra day on Friday if there is an Ops sessions day ?
07:53:57 MichielPiscaer[m] I as ops person, I'm planning to got to the PTG. I think the main question is what do you want to know from me as operator.
08:02:07 gibi bauzas: good questions. I think we should fire up an etherpad to collect the answers from the team
08:02:40 bauzas gibi: this was my approach
08:03:17 bauzas II don't want to hold that much to reply to diablo_rojo
08:03:41 bauzas so ideally, I'd appreciate if I could reply by tomorrow (hence that not being discussed at the nova meeting)
08:04:11 bauzas also, Kendall is asking whether we agree on publishing our responses into some superuser blog
08:04:38 bauzas MichielPiscaer[m]: oh, thanks for your feedback, extremely valuable
08:05:09 bauzas MichielPiscaer[m]: in general, we appreciate some ops presence in the room for challenging the usecases
08:06:12 bauzas during the last 3 virtual PTGs, we didn't really went into deepdive design sessions, so I feel ops couldn't be that disconnected from the talks
08:08:34 gibi bauzas: #1) new use cases, pain points, general info about what they are using (services, versions, configuration)
08:09:03 gibi bauzas: #2) I will definielty talk about PCI in placement :) but not much else on my agenda so far
08:09:35 gibi bauzas: #3) plan the AA (and BB cycle)
08:09:56 bauzas I'm just creating the etherpad with my notes
08:09:57 gibi bauzas: #4) I'm happy to have an extra day with Ops
08:10:01 bauzas me too
08:10:17 gibi ack, I will update the etherpad too
08:12:14 sean-k-mooney gibi: i am hoping it will be functinal if but not nessisarly on by default in AA
08:12:47 bauzas https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ptg-columbus-ops-presence
08:13:04 bauzas gibi: add your points to the agendaz
08:13:05 gibi sean-k-mooney: yepp I think we still have a chance to have the non neutron part in Zed, and then the neutron part in AA
08:13:05 sean-k-mooney i would potentialy like to see the mdev support evloved to build in pci in placment and the pci track ro move to the resouces table like pmem overtime
08:13:30 sean-k-mooney gibi: ack i would personally hold enabling by default until we have parity
08:13:36 sean-k-mooney so likely BB
08:13:58 bauzas tbc, this is a bit premature to know what the topics will be
08:14:02 gibi sean-k-mooney: I agree with keeping off by default until we have full parity
08:14:56 sean-k-mooney bauzas: all topic sure but we will have some in the back of our minds
08:15:15 bauzas sean-k-mooney: then add them to the etherpad I mentioned
08:15:27 bauzas and I'll summarize those
08:15:43 sean-k-mooney bauzas: we ususally have a corss project day on monday should we make that ops and cross project
08:15:54 bauzas keeping in mind most ops are running pre-Train :)
08:16:09 bauzas so most of our semantics are mostly unknown by them :)
08:16:32 bauzas sean-k-mooney: looks like there will be a ops day on Friday
08:17:03 bauzas point is, we need a productive PTG
08:17:04 sean-k-mooney i tought the ptg ended thrusday offically
08:17:12 bauzas sean-k-mooney: see above
08:17:21 sean-k-mooney October 17-20, 2022
08:17:37 bauzas sean-k-mooney: yes, this would be an extra day, a ops summit day if you prefer
08:18:16 sean-k-mooney ack i was looking at flight if they want to add that they shoudl do it very very soon
08:18:36 sean-k-mooney as some might be plannign to fly back on friday
08:20:07 bauzas sean-k-mooney: honestly, I don't look at flights until I get the green light
08:20:29 bauzas sean-k-mooney: but you're absolutely free to *not* attend this extra day
08:20:43 bauzas again, see the etherpad
08:20:47 sean-k-mooney if it goies ahead and im there i will
08:20:55 bauzas "If there was an extra day (Friday, October 21 of Operator sessions), would contributors from your team be interested in participating? "
08:21:12 sean-k-mooney but i would annoyed at the foundation if it was added late and could not attend because i had arranged things
08:21:31 sean-k-mooney or had to adjust flights or hotel booking
08:22:26 sean-k-mooney bauzas: personaly i think havign the ops session on friday does not make sense
08:22:35 sean-k-mooney if they do that i would prefer to see it on monday
08:22:50 sean-k-mooney and shift the ptg to start on tuesday to friday
08:22:56 gibi yeah I agree, probably we need the general input (Ops, cross project) earlier
08:23:05 sean-k-mooney flight in on moday are cheaper then sunday
08:23:13 sean-k-mooney as are hotels
08:23:25 sean-k-mooney so those that dont plan to attend will have reduced cost
08:23:38 bauzas I personnally feel brave enough to propose some nova agenda intended to be 'ops-understandable' by tuesday
08:23:47 sean-k-mooney it also mean we can get the feedback before our seesion
08:24:13 bauzas and us preventing to go into deep-dive whiteboarding sesssions until wed
08:24:47 bauzas (because yes, this time, we should have a whiteboard :D )
08:24:51 sean-k-mooney maybe but why tuseday and not monday
08:24:59 bauzas nova-specifics
08:25:13 bauzas having ops only on monday is nice but doesn't help our project
08:25:29 bauzas and if we don't make something to invite them in our room, they won't come
08:25:36 sean-k-mooney ok so you want monday to be crossprojct/tc and general ops
08:25:43 bauzas they could be in the hallways or in another room
08:25:47 sean-k-mooney then tueday ops frieldy but nova specific
08:25:58 bauzas -ish but yeah, you got my idea
08:26:01 sean-k-mooney and deepdive on wednesday and thursday on nova specifics
08:26:06 sean-k-mooney ok
08:26:17 bauzas this is just an idea
08:26:45 bauzas but we need to welcome them and make them sure they'll understand our language if they come
08:29:24 sean-k-mooney yep
08:29:46 sean-k-mooney which also might meen keeping slot free later in the week to be pland based on the hallway track and ops day
08:33:15 bauzas that's why I think we reasonably need a single day ops-friendly
08:33:28 bauzas or rather ops-welcome
08:33:44 bauzas the two other days wouldn't mean ops would be unfriendly
08:34:09 bauzas but we won't refrain ourselves to go into deepdive sessions if we feel we need to
08:38:38 sean-k-mooney ops are always welcome :)
08:39:06 sean-k-mooney well to me the ptg/design summit alwyas had 2 reasons to exist
08:39:27 sean-k-mooney direct feedback form ops/user/project about pain points
08:39:49 sean-k-mooney and brainstorming/deepdiving a problem with all that are interested in it
08:43:39 bauzas yup
09:10:40 bauzas gibi: could you please review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/849133 even if we need to wait for unshelve
09:10:43 bauzas ?
09:10:52 gibi bauzas: ack

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