Hi foxgang
Ok I understand, not really, that Microsoft controls program files because
of a few million very stupid people. It annoys me that an owner cannot have
control of his/her own machine but that's the way it is.
So.... I put my data in what would appear to be the data place. ProgramData.
And guess what, some people do not have enough rights to that either for VFP
data. Unless they make themselves admin. So thinking on what a few have said
here, I thought of using c:/company_name/program_name. But it seems that
even that may not have correct rights either. Ok not really a question, more
a sound off. It's like windows has become impossible to use thanks to the
stupid. Maybe on windows install they should ask "are you a stupid git that
downloads movies and goes to porn site" or "can we let you have control of
your own pc". Moan moan....
Got that off my chest.
Al
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Well, they can't win can they. Before Vista they were getting lambasted
due to how insecure it was compared to Linux. So they lock it down and
make it quite similar to Linux, and they still get lambasted. I'd rather
have it the way it is now.
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It isn't only users who have permissions problems - on my own laptop
(Win7 Home Prem) I run as Admin (OK mea culpa) but I *intermittently*
get denied access to C:\Users\Me\My Documents | My Pictures | etc.
On 01/05/2014 13:41, Al wrote:
> Hi foxgang
> Ok I understand, not really, that Microsoft controls program files because
> of a few million very stupid people. It annoys me that an owner cannot have
> control of his/her own machine but that's the way it is.
> So.... I put my data in what would appear to be the data place. ProgramData.
> And guess what, some people do not have enough rights to that either for VFP
> data. Unless they make themselves admin. So thinking on what a few have said
> here, I thought of using c:/company_name/program_name. But it seems that
> even that may not have correct rights either. Ok not really a question, more
> a sound off. It's like windows has become impossible to use thanks to the
> stupid. Maybe on windows install they should ask "are you a stupid git that
> downloads movies and goes to porn site" or "can we let you have control of
> your own pc". Moan moan....
> Got that off my chest.
> Al
>
>
>
>
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I've noticed things like that too. Seems that admin is not admin.
Al
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It isn't only users who have permissions problems - on my own laptop
(Win7 Home Prem) I run as Admin (OK mea culpa) but I *intermittently* get
denied access to C:\Users\Me\My Documents | My Pictures | etc.
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I never moaned about my own machine. But it is now stupid where you can't do
anything unless you are admin.
Al
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Well, they can't win can they. Before Vista they were getting lambasted due
to how insecure it was compared to Linux. So they lock it down and make it
quite similar to Linux, and they still get lambasted. I'd rather have it the
way it is now.
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You can give rights to the folder, just make that one public.
HTH, E.
On Thursday, May 1, 2014 5:50 AM, Allen <profox@gatwicksoftware.com> wrote:
I never moaned about my own machine. But it is now stupid where you can't do
>anything unless you are admin.
>Al
>
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>Subject: Re: [NF] Windows permissions
>
>Well, they can't win can they. Before Vista they were getting lambasted due
>to how insecure it was compared to Linux. So they lock it down and make it
>quite similar to Linux, and they still get lambasted. I'd rather have it the
>way it is now.
>
>
>
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True but you should not have to get the user to play with rights.
Al
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You can give rights to the folder, just make that one public.
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Al,
when Vista first came out I followed Doug Hennig's advice on using Inno
Setup to install my applications (and data if necessary) in Program
Files. The installation does the setting of the necessary user rights
so user's don't have to mess with changing rights.
On 01/05/2014 07:34 AM, Allen wrote:
> True but you should not have to get the user to play with rights.
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> You can give rights to the folder, just make that one public.
>
>
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On 5/1/2014 5:19 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:
> Al,
>
> when Vista first came out I followed Doug Hennig's advice on using
> Inno Setup to install my applications (and data if necessary) in
> Program Files. The installation does the setting of the necessary
> user rights so user's don't have to mess with changing rights.
>
> On 01/05/2014 07:34 AM, Allen wrote:
>> True but you should not have to get the user to play with rights.
>> Al
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> You can give rights to the folder, just make that one public.
>>
>>
>
I use a "loader" from VMP that copies a file from
c:\users\public\applications\myapp\update to ...\myapp. It has worked
flawlessly for years. With Windows 8 & Windows Server 2008 it will not
copy so I have to do it manually. It doesn't give me an error message
either. Just doesn't copy.
--
Jeff
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On 01/05/2014 08:31 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>
> I use a "loader" from VMP that copies a file from
> c:\users\public\applications\myapp\update to ...\myapp. It has worked
> flawlessly for years. With Windows 8 & Windows Server 2008 it will
> not copy so I have to do it manually. It doesn't give me an error
> message either. Just doesn't copy.
>
>
Jeff,
I also use a loader at some sites (I don't think it's the VMP loader but
I did it so long ago I can't remember) and these sites have started
getting Windows 7 and 8 PCs over the last few years and my loader still
runs. Maybe you need to adjust the user rights in the folder that you
are copying to? I can't recall having to do anything special to get it
to work.
--
Frank.
Frank Cazabon
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