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2010-03-02 17:29 – James E Harvey : [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
2010-03-02 17:49 – Jarvis, Matthew : RE: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
2010-03-02 18:13 – Paul McNett : Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
2010-03-02 20:05 – Ed Leafe : Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
2010-03-02 20:24 – Paul McNett : Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
2010-03-03 03:56 – Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
2010-03-03 11:21 – <kamcginnis@gmail.com>: Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
2010-03-03 11:34 – James E Harvey : RE: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)
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[NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: James E Harvey

Posted: 2010-03-02 17:29:11   Link

Our network recently started to experience problems with speed over the

internet. The COMCAST SMC device would also be inaccessible due to an error

message stating "Access error: data follows, can't get memory".

We re-boot the SMC and access speeds are back to normal and the SMC is

accessible. After a period of time (30 min to 1 1/2 hr) we're back to the

bad behavior.

Comcast stated that the SMC was "not locking properly". They then used ping

somehow to determine the speed was poor, had us pull the network cable and

announced that the ping was now fine, so according to them the problem is on

our end.

My question is, is there any free software that will "find" which device is

going bad and sending out bad packets, if that is the problem?

James E Harvey

Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.

M.I.S./Corresponding Officer

Off: 717-637-8931

fax: 717-637-6766

email: jharvey@hanoverpa.com

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RE: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: Jarvis, Matthew

Posted: 2010-03-02 17:49:29   Link

> -----Original Message-----

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> On Behalf Of James E Harvey

> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:29 PM

> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> Subject: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

>

>

> My question is, is there any free software that will "find" which

device

> is

> going bad and sending out bad packets, if that is the problem?

>

The most dreaded words in IT: "the network is slow".... talk about

time-suck trying to track this one down.... ;)

If it isn't an intermittent thing i.e. when it gets bad, it STAYS bad,

you have a shot at tracking it down with free tools you already have:

tracert and ping.

First tracert to the router and get the list of IP addy's.

Then from you desktop, ping up the chain waiting to see slow times. It

helps if you can telnet/connect to the devices in line between you and

the router to help narrow/confirm your search.

It would be nice if you could do the tracert/ping test when the thing is

acting correctly to get a benchmark.

Thanks,

Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst

IT Department

McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center

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Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2010-03-02 18:13:13   Link

On 3/2/10 2:49 PM, Jarvis, Matthew wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com

> [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com]

>> On Behalf Of James E Harvey

>> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:29 PM

>> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

>> Subject: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

>>

>>

>> My question is, is there any free software that will "find" which

> device

>> is

>> going bad and sending out bad packets, if that is the problem?

>>

>

> The most dreaded words in IT: "the network is slow".... talk about

> time-suck trying to track this one down.... ;)

>

> If it isn't an intermittent thing i.e. when it gets bad, it STAYS bad,

> you have a shot at tracking it down with free tools you already have:

> tracert and ping.

>

> First tracert to the router and get the list of IP addy's.

>

> Then from you desktop, ping up the chain waiting to see slow times. It

> helps if you can telnet/connect to the devices in line between you and

> the router to help narrow/confirm your search.

>

> It would be nice if you could do the tracert/ping test when the thing is

> acting correctly to get a benchmark.

I like to ping flood each device to see which stop responding under load. Obviously,

do this when users aren't trying to work. I don't think Windows ping has the -f

switch, but you could boot a Linux live distro, sudo to root, and then:

ping -f <hostname>

Here's the output pinging my server (server is in Southern California; I'm in Central

California) - I'm on a Mac:

bash-3.2# ping -f paulmcnett.com

PING paulmcnett.com (208.70.74.99): 56 data bytes

..............................^C

--- paulmcnett.com ping statistics ---

5172 packets transmitted, 5142 packets received, 0% packet loss

round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 23.894/26.981/59.256/3.437 ms

bash-3.2#

This was about 10 seconds of flooding. I like how it gives good stats at the end

including not just average but standard deviation. If you see wildly different

numbers for min and max on your local network for some device and not others, that

device could be the culprit.

I've had a few switches cause huge network lags. If the switch isn't managed (doesn't

have an ip of its own to ping) then you'll have to use trial and error. One of my

switches would work for a couple days and then totally hang. When I finally figured

out which switch this was, I took it out back and beat it with a baseball bat.

Paul

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Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2010-03-02 20:05:05   Link

On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

> Here's the output pinging my server (server is in Southern California; I'm in Central

> California) - I'm on a Mac:

>

> bash-3.2# ping -f paulmcnett.com

> PING paulmcnett.com (208.70.74.99): 56 data bytes

> ..............................^C

> --- paulmcnett.com ping statistics ---

> 5172 packets transmitted, 5142 packets received, 0% packet loss

> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 23.894/26.981/59.256/3.437 ms

> bash-3.2#

FWIW, ping -f on a Mac usually requires sudo.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2010-03-02 20:24:42   Link

On 3/2/10 5:05 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

> On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

>

>> Here's the output pinging my server (server is in Southern California; I'm in Central

>> California) - I'm on a Mac:

>>

>> bash-3.2# ping -f paulmcnett.com

>> PING paulmcnett.com (208.70.74.99): 56 data bytes

>> ..............................^C

>> --- paulmcnett.com ping statistics ---

>> 5172 packets transmitted, 5142 packets received, 0% packet loss

>> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 23.894/26.981/59.256/3.437 ms

>> bash-3.2#

>

> FWIW, ping -f on a Mac usually requires sudo.

Same with Linux. In my example above, I was already root so I didn't need the sudo.

Paul

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Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2010-03-03 03:56:57   Link

Have a Google for WireShark

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Re: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: <kamcginnis@gmail.com>

Posted: 2010-03-03 11:21:34   Link

I can't pass up this opportunity to throw a jab at comcast. Once I thought that PacBell was the worst communication

company but Comcast proved they were the winner of that title. I was on the SF peninsula at that time.

Back to your note, I am not sure if this will be of any value, but because of so much trouble like you describe, we now

have the ISP set their device to 'bridge' mode. That way it won't cause any trouble. Then we connect something like a

SMC 7004 broadband router which is very easy to program and allows you to turn the ping response on and off, block

ports, DHCP, etc. You have control. At any time you can check the status of the SMC 7004 and see if you have an internet

connection and see a log of who connected when, illegal connection tries, etc.

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From: "James E Harvey" <jharvey@hanoverpa.com>

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Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:29 PM

Subject: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Our network recently started to experience problems with speed over the

internet. The COMCAST SMC device would also be inaccessible due to an error

message stating "Access error: data follows, can't get memory".

We re-boot the SMC and access speeds are back to normal and the SMC is

accessible. After a period of time (30 min to 1 1/2 hr) we're back to the

bad behavior.

Comcast stated that the SMC was "not locking properly". They then used ping

somehow to determine the speed was poor, had us pull the network cable and

announced that the ping was now fine, so according to them the problem is on

our end.

My question is, is there any free software that will "find" which device is

going bad and sending out bad packets, if that is the problem?

James E Harvey

Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.

M.I.S./Corresponding Officer

Off: 717-637-8931

fax: 717-637-6766

email: jharvey@hanoverpa.com

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RE: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Author: James E Harvey

Posted: 2010-03-03 11:34:32   Link

They (Comcast tech support) suggested I purchase a "router" to install

between their SMC and our switch as they believed that all of a sudden the

SMC could no longer handle the routing requirements, and it was their

opinion we need a separate device to handle that job.

Based on their assumption I purchased a Linksys Cable/DSL/Router Model No.

BEFSR41.

Do you think this device will suffice?

In the meantime we think we have narrowed the problem down to one user's

computer. With it connected the SMC runs out of memory in about 20 - 30

minutes, without it connected the SMC has been good for about an hour so

far, and that is the results of two tests...

James E Harvey

Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.

M.I.S./Corresponding Officer

Off: 717-637-8931

fax: 717-637-6766

email: jharvey@hanoverpa.com

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I can't pass up this opportunity to throw a jab at comcast. Once I thought

that PacBell was the worst communication

company but Comcast proved they were the winner of that title. I was on the

SF peninsula at that time.

Back to your note, I am not sure if this will be of any value, but because

of so much trouble like you describe, we now

have the ISP set their device to 'bridge' mode. That way it won't cause any

trouble. Then we connect something like a

SMC 7004 broadband router which is very easy to program and allows you to

turn the ping response on and off, block

ports, DHCP, etc. You have control. At any time you can check the status of

the SMC 7004 and see if you have an internet

connection and see a log of who connected when, illegal connection tries,

etc.

----- Original Message -----

From: "James E Harvey" <jharvey@hanoverpa.com>

To: "'ProFox Email List'" <profox@leafe.com>

Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:29 PM

Subject: [NF] network traffic software (free preferable)

Our network recently started to experience problems with speed over the

internet. The COMCAST SMC device would also be inaccessible due to an error

message stating "Access error: data follows, can't get memory".

We re-boot the SMC and access speeds are back to normal and the SMC is

accessible. After a period of time (30 min to 1 1/2 hr) we're back to the

bad behavior.

Comcast stated that the SMC was "not locking properly". They then used ping

somehow to determine the speed was poor, had us pull the network cable and

announced that the ping was now fine, so according to them the problem is on

our end.

My question is, is there any free software that will "find" which device is

going bad and sending out bad packets, if that is the problem?

James E Harvey

Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.

M.I.S./Corresponding Officer

Off: 717-637-8931

fax: 717-637-6766

email: jharvey@hanoverpa.com

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