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2005-03-07 14:33Chuck Urwiler : RE: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-07 14:42Kevin Cully : Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-07 14:58Ted Roche : Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-07 15:05Chuck Urwiler : RE: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-07 15:13Michael Madigan : RE: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-07 20:27Richard Kaye : Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-07 21:07Michael Madigan : Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-08 04:33Jason Brown : Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-08 09:44Ted Roche : Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
2005-03-08 10:01Paul McNett : Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!
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RE: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Chuck Urwiler

Posted: 2005-03-07 14:33:49   Link

Chet,

Comcast has been pretty awesome for me, even though I'm not entirely happy

with paying $50 a month for the service. But it has been extremely reliable

(I have worked from home for the past three years at two different locations

with maybe a total of two days of downtime). Mail is almost always up. Never

have needed to call their tech support except for those two days things were

down.

And you can't beat that 4MB download/384KB upload. They just upgraded me

recently for no extra charge and man is it nice to get DLs completed so

quickly.

-Chuck

©2005 Chuck Urwiler
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Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Kevin Cully

Posted: 2005-03-07 14:42:10   Link

Since we're on a Linux mailing list ...

I would suggest getting a web hosting service in addition to your

broadband connection. The hosting services (Linux based, of course)

give you some web space, host your mail services, and can give you some

global database access (MySQL).

I have my hosting through SmarterLinux.com for 100MB of space, mail,

etc. etc. for about $8/month. I know that there are several out there

that are less, for around $5 or $6 a month. (You may need to buy a

domain for around $20 a year as well.) Another thing I like with

SmarterLinux is that when you call them, you are talking to a human

being by the third ring. 90% of the time, that person that answered the

phone can answer your question / solve the problem.

I really like having my email address "unbundled" from my broadband

connection, in case I need to make a change.

Just my $0.02.

-Kevin

Chet Gardiner wrote:

> <RANT>

>

> It's not Thunderbird or Choice Mail. It's SBC. I called their "tech

> support" and there was a prerecorded message about mail being

> difficult for anyone "who has recently changed their password" -- LIE

> LIE LIE.....

>

> Sometimes I can mail...most times not...

>

> Sometimes I receive -- most times not...

>

> Ah, Intermittent email -- that's what I pay $49.95 a month

> for..............NOT!

>

> </RANT>

>

> How're any folks doing with Comcast cable -- any better?

>

>

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2005 Kevin Cully
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Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2005-03-07 14:58:54   Link

On Mar 7, 2005, at 2:33 PM, Chuck Urwiler wrote:

> And you can't beat that 4MB download/384KB upload. They just upgraded

> me

> recently for no extra charge and man is it nice to get DLs completed so

> quickly.

You might want to test that out. They did indeed upgrade many of their

facilities (remember, they are running a lot of cable installations

from other companies they bought) from 3 Mb to 4 Mb, but in most cases

in the process, they dropped upload speed to 256 Kbps. That's a 33%

decrease. Most of the time, It's okay, but once in a while I'll be

shipping a big file up, and you can see the slowness.

Ted Roche

Ted Roche & Associates, LLC

http://www.tedroche.com

©2005 Ted Roche
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RE: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Chuck Urwiler

Posted: 2005-03-07 15:05:59   Link

Yea, I did just to be sure, and thank goodness uploads got a little faster,

which of course any speed increase when uploading over a VPN is a good

thing...

-Chuck

> -----Original Message-----

> You might want to test that out. They did indeed upgrade many of their

> facilities (remember, they are running a lot of cable installations

> from other companies they bought) from 3 Mb to 4 Mb, but in most cases

> in the process, they dropped upload speed to 256 Kbps. That's a 33%

> decrease. Most of the time, It's okay, but once in a while I'll be

> shipping a big file up, and you can see the slowness.

©2005 Chuck Urwiler
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RE: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2005-03-07 15:13:53   Link

Comcast is great for me too. I use Yahoo mail for all my mail, I almost never have even a burp

with them.

--- Chuck Urwiler <curwiler@comcast.net> wrote:

> Chet,

>

> Comcast has been pretty awesome for me, even though I'm not entirely happy

> with paying $50 a month for the service. But it has been extremely reliable

> (I have worked from home for the past three years at two different locations

> with maybe a total of two days of downtime). Mail is almost always up. Never

> have needed to call their tech support except for those two days things were

> down.

>

> And you can't beat that 4MB download/384KB upload. They just upgraded me

> recently for no extra charge and man is it nice to get DLs completed so

> quickly.

>

> -Chuck

>

>

>

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2005 Michael Madigan
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Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Richard Kaye

Posted: 2005-03-07 20:27:00   Link

In the last year or so, my Comcast first went to 3MB/256KB and most

recently 4MB/384KB.

Ted Roche wrote:

>

> You might want to test that out. They did indeed upgrade many of their

> facilities (remember, they are running a lot of cable installations

> from other companies they bought) from 3 Mb to 4 Mb, but in most cases

> in the process, they dropped upload speed to 256 Kbps. That's a 33%

> decrease. Most of the time, It's okay, but once in a while I'll be

> shipping a big file up, and you can see the slowness.

--

Richard Kaye

RFC Systems

Voice: 973.761.0868

Fax: 973.761.4329

For the fastest response time, please send your tech support

queries to techsupport@rfcsystems.com

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Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2005-03-07 21:07:02   Link

What's up with that?

--- Jason Brown <j.brown@genixtech.com> wrote:

> Don't complain, I'm paying $69 here in Australia for 256/64K unlimited

> adsl , and thats pretty much the going rate.

>

> now that sucks!!!

>

> Jason

>

>

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Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Jason Brown

Posted: 2005-03-08 04:33:01   Link

Don't complain, I'm paying $69 here in Australia for 256/64K unlimited

adsl , and thats pretty much the going rate.

now that sucks!!!

Jason

Richard Kaye wrote:

> In the last year or so, my Comcast first went to 3MB/256KB and most

> recently 4MB/384KB.

>

> Ted Roche wrote:

>

>>

>> You might want to test that out. They did indeed upgrade many of

>> their facilities (remember, they are running a lot of cable

>> installations from other companies they bought) from 3 Mb to 4 Mb,

>> but in most cases in the process, they dropped upload speed to 256

>> Kbps. That's a 33% decrease. Most of the time, It's okay, but once in

>> a while I'll be shipping a big file up, and you can see the slowness.

>

>

>

©2005 Jason Brown
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Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2005-03-08 09:44:00   Link

On Mar 7, 2005, at 8:33 PM, Jason Brown wrote:

> Don't complain, I'm paying $69 here in Australia for 256/64K unlimited

> adsl , and thats pretty much the going rate.

Ouch! AUD $69 ~= $54.75 USD. I'm paying less than that for 768k/384k

ADSL. Is it a lack of telco competition, lack of resources, or

something else?

Ted Roche

Ted Roche & Associates, LLC

http://www.tedroche.com

©2005 Ted Roche
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Re: [ProLinux] [NF] SBC SUCKS!!!

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2005-03-08 10:01:07   Link

Ted Roche wrote:

> On Mar 7, 2005, at 8:33 PM, Jason Brown wrote:

>

>> Don't complain, I'm paying $69 here in Australia for 256/64K unlimited

>> adsl , and thats pretty much the going rate.

>

>

> Ouch! AUD $69 ~= $54.75 USD. I'm paying less than that for 768k/384k

> ADSL. Is it a lack of telco competition, lack of resources, or something

> else?

FWIW, I'm paying $88 a month for 768/384k from a local ISP that has

never done me any wrong since I started with them over a decade ago. I

believe I could get SBC DSL for around $59 a month or Charter cable for

about $50 but frankly I don't trust either of those companies with my money.

--

pkm ~ http://paulmcnett.com

©2005 Paul McNett