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#openstack-sdks - 2019-04-04
14:16:39 dtroyer JeremyHouser: yes
14:16:48 JeremyHouser Fantastic, thank you
14:52:52 openstackgerrit Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: [WIP] Support for the baremetal introspection service https://review.openstack.org/650044
14:53:47 dtantsur initial bits ^^^ needs testing (later)
16:00:12 edleafe Welcome one and all to the API-SIG Office Hour!
16:00:23 elmiko quick on the fingers today edleafe ;)
16:00:39 edleafe Shoulda been a pickpocket
16:00:44 elmiko haha
16:02:00 gtema I was already thinking what has happened to Office Hour - again DST effect
16:03:21 mordred one in the US - and then another in EU
16:03:40 gtema this is all such a mess
16:03:45 elmiko lol
16:03:49 elmiko i agree gtema
16:04:26 mordred edleafe: so dull
16:04:36 mordred edleafe: especially now that I have NO MORE FLIGHTS until July!!!!!
16:04:55 gtema wow, good for you
16:05:09 edleafe Not coming to Denver?
16:05:34 gtema he will simply walk
16:06:05 elmiko mordred: no flights till july? color me jealous ;)
16:06:18 mordred edleafe: I'm driving
16:06:34 edleafe Ah, so a metal box instead of tube
16:06:41 mordred yes. much more pleasant
16:07:07 mordred edleafe: we bought a used tesla that's grandfathered in to free supercharging - so road trips are free
16:07:21 edleafe schweet
16:07:22 gtema cooool
16:07:46 mordred also - used teslas are a great deal right now - they're still depreciating like they have gas engines in them
16:10:14 elmiko very cool about the used tesla
16:15:06 gtema that's dull not to fight with a hacke on a highway
16:15:14 gtema s/hacke/hacher/
16:15:18 mordred I know. I'm getting old and lame
16:15:57 cdent mordred: you're totally out of bounds, this is the api-sig office hour. remote hackability is the whole point, yo!
16:16:29 mordred ooh - cookies!
16:16:32 edleafe is there a non-hackable auto-pilot system?
16:16:44 elmiko lol cdent
16:19:44 dtantsur but does it have a good API?
16:20:11 gtema I guess it is only good for black hackers
16:20:48 elmiko dtantsur asking the real questions ;)
16:22:00 openstackgerrit LIU Yulong proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add floating IP Port Forwarding commands https://review.openstack.org/650062
16:22:07 dtantsur so, IIRC we have Thursday morning at the PTG, right?
16:22:32 dtantsur do we need to plan something? or will it be mordred and me drinking whisk^Wcoffee and hacking on things? :)
16:22:55 gtema me too
16:23:06 gtema (if PTG ticket will be finally clarified)
16:23:06 edleafe I'll be there too just to bug you guys
16:23:09 openstackgerrit LIU Yulong proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add floating IP port forwarding related methods https://review.openstack.org/650063
16:23:42 edleafe gtema: IBM *finally* approved my travel last week. Only took them two months this time :)
16:23:48 dtantsur \o/
16:23:48 elmiko yikes
16:23:55 gtema yo
16:24:02 dtantsur great, it sounds like we can even have some kind of agenda
16:24:30 edleafe "Item A: make jokes about elmiko"
16:24:39 edleafe "Items B-Z: repeat"
16:24:41 dtantsur it's a recurring item, like reviewing things
16:24:44 dtantsur right
16:24:46 gtema edleafe: as a Summit sponsor we get free tickets to Summit, but not PTG
16:25:03 elmiko edleafe: ++
16:25:21 edleafe As a past PTG attendee I get a free ticket to the summit but not the PTG
16:25:24 elmiko i hope you take notes though, i could use a good laugh!
16:26:18 dtantsur elmiko: we'll write a spec and propose to our repo
16:26:42 edleafe elmiko: if people know their elmiko jokes are being recorded, they might hold back
16:27:14 elmiko haha
16:27:30 elmiko i definitely want elmiko joke guidelines, there has to be /some/ order here!
16:27:39 dtantsur and microversioning
16:27:59 elmiko wel obviously, how will now which joke version i am hearing XD
16:28:28 elmiko i also reserve the right to adjust the minimum acceptable microversion, so old jokes won't fly!
16:29:17 edleafe No - the guidelines clearly state that once you release an elmiko joke, you have to support it forever
16:29:32 elmiko hahaha
16:29:34 dtantsur :D
16:29:55 elmiko oh the maintenance /me draws hand to forehead
16:30:26 dtantsur do we want to give folks an opportunity to suggest less important agenda items?
16:30:45 edleafe dtantsur: well, I guess we sort of have to
16:30:48 elmiko XD
16:31:02 dtantsur edleafe: well, we can tell them we have serious business
16:31:48 dtantsur but yeah, anyone wants to start an etherpad maybe?
16:32:34 edleafe dtantsur: like this? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-ptg-train
16:32:48 dtantsur cheers!
16:33:39 elmiko hahaha
16:40:01 dtantsur okay, we have a few topics proposed, sweet!
16:43:53 elmiko ++
17:05:21 elmiko catch y'all later o/
17:05:42 gtema ciao
17:27:13 openstackgerrit Jeremy Houser proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove hard-coded "admin" in test_port https://review.openstack.org/650082
17:28:00 openstackgerrit Jeremy Houser proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove hard-coded "admin" in test_port https://review.openstack.org/650082
18:54:03 openstackgerrit Jeremy Houser proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove hard-coded "admin" in test_port https://review.openstack.org/650082
19:14:24 openstackgerrit Jeremy Houser proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove hard-coded "admin" in test_port https://review.openstack.org/650082
19:43:04 openstackgerrit Jeremy Houser proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove hard-coded "admin" in test_port https://review.openstack.org/650082
20:17:48 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Test _alternate_id logic https://review.openstack.org/379594
23:00:58 openstackgerrit James E. Blair proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Expand on a brief error message https://review.openstack.org/650161
#openstack-sdks - 2019-04-05
06:09:57 stephenfin mordred: Are we collecting things for osc 4.0? Is so, thoughts on converting the likes of 'openstack security group create' to 'openstack security-group create' (with aliases, maybe)? The former feels wrong 'openstack security' isn't a command and I think it was only done because of cliff's use of underscores in entry point names
08:22:05 frickler stephenfin: mordred: I'd say keep those consistent with "floating ip", "subnet pool" and others. you also most certainly don't want "security-group-rule create" in addition
08:23:13 frickler if you want to change something in that regard, my vote would be to make "key pair" instead of "keypair", because to me that is inconsistent with all the other variants and always makes me need two attempts to get right
10:16:03 stephenfin frickler: Oh yeah, I mean anything where the top level command ('openstack floating' would fall into this) doesn't make sense or means something entirely different ('openstack subnet' would fall into this)
10:46:01 dtantsur stephenfin: I think the idea is to keep it as close to a human language sentence as possible
10:46:37 dtantsur and it's not friendly to users to make them remember where we use dashes and where spaces
10:46:59 dtantsur like, 'security-group create' makes as much sense as security-group-create
10:58:43 stephenfin dtantsur: I'd think of it in terms of 'openstack [resource] [action]'
10:59:06 stephenfin So 'openstack security-group create' makes far more sense to me. Helps from an autocomplete perspective too
11:06:11 openstackgerrit Jeremy Houser proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove hard-coded "admin" in test_port https://review.openstack.org/650082
11:15:16 dtantsur stephenfin: that's more correct technically, but more confusing to those who don't have a clear idea of what openstack resources are
11:15:36 stephenfin fair point
11:15:45 stephenfin Guess this isn't quite the no-brainer I thought it was :)

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