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#openstack-sdks - 2019-03-27
20:39:52 openstackgerrit Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Do not disregard tags when updating stacks https://review.openstack.org/643195
#openstack-sdks - 2019-03-28
00:31:49 dtruong mordred Would it be possible to cut a new openstacksdk release off master branch? That would fix the connection leak problem for Senlin.
00:32:06 dtruong I also send an email to openstack-discuss with the same question: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004295.html
06:46:28 mordred dtruong: yes, I thnk that should be no problem
06:49:42 mordred dtantsur|afk: boo to that being broken. :(
07:02:42 mordred dtruong: oh - I say that - doing it as a release for stein might be harder because of the various freezes.
07:06:12 mordred dtruong: I'm going to ask the release team what they think
07:48:12 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for generating form-post signatures https://review.openstack.org/639760
07:48:25 mordred timburke: ^^ thanks! nice catch
07:49:17 mordred Shrews, dtantsur|afk: ^^ timburke found a bug in that. I fixed the bug and added unit tests to actually exercise the methods in question which would have shown how horribly broken they were
08:59:02 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Move set_temp_url_key logic into resource objects https://review.openstack.org/648347
09:01:09 gtema mordred, dtantsur: can you please do a next quick review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642218/ (split openstackcloud.py)
09:01:24 gtema I only did a "rebase"
09:01:50 gtema I would like to ask you to try to integrate it soon, as rebasing in it is a terrible mess with each new change
09:16:02 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove and rearrange object bonged proxy tests https://review.openstack.org/648352
09:16:39 mordred gtema: +2 from e
09:16:58 gtema thks mordred
09:18:36 gtema btw, I would like to modify service_descriptions.__set__ and __delete__ to be able to be able to override default descriptors (you know OTC case with the DNS implementation)
09:18:55 gtema are you ok with that?
09:20:41 mordred gtema: I *think* that should be ok - although my brain isn't super functional today, so I might be missing an implication :)
09:22:08 gtema ok, will prepare patch. My problem is that in a particular cloud a service might differ from upstream. We currently do have possibility to add service implementation in runtime, but not to "replace" the ones delivered in SDK
09:22:21 mordred yah
09:22:32 gtema so for me DNS implementation should be replaced
09:22:38 mordred of course, insert obligatory grumbling about clouds having incompatible services ...
09:22:50 gtema yupp
09:23:00 gtema thks
10:03:08 dtantsur gtema: sure thing! btw, how did you visa application go?
10:05:08 dtantsur and unrelated, but we need to fix the masakari job: http://logs.openstack.org/18/642218/9/check/openstacksdk-functional-devstack-masakari/bd6a050/job-output.txt.gz#_2019-03-26_16_03_12_675170
11:49:08 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Split OpenStackCloud into reasonable pieces https://review.openstack.org/642218
11:49:09 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Do not disregard tags when updating stacks https://review.openstack.org/643195
11:57:38 openstackgerrit Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Make PATCH a first class operation and support it for baremetal https://review.openstack.org/647730
11:59:26 gtema dtantsur: thanks. Visa is there. And I was really surprised to get it on 3 days after interview
12:00:45 gtema s/on/in/
12:06:56 dtantsur yeah, it's nice :)
13:26:18 ITD27M01 mordred: My name is Igor, can you please do a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/648117/ (missing "params" for mistral workflow execution) we are developing some utilities on-site for mistral and blocked on this change. Thank you!
13:47:48 dtantsur mordred, gtema, when you have a second, I had to rebase: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/647730/
13:54:42 gtema yupp - done
14:02:34 dtantsur thx
14:39:23 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add "name" filter in "list" call when retrieving a single register https://review.openstack.org/637238
15:16:04 openstackgerrit Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Cleanup split of openstackcloud https://review.openstack.org/648435
15:21:35 ricolin cdent, edleafe elmiko Hi any chance we can get your help on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004246.html ?:)
15:22:12 cdent ricolin: I'll punt to edleafe and elmiko on that. I'm not as involved in the api-sig as I used to be
15:22:27 edleafe ricolin: I was going to bring that up at the office hour that starts in about 40 minutes
15:22:41 ricolin cdent, thanks for the help:)
15:23:10 ricolin edleafe, nice! where will the office hour hold, here?
15:23:14 elmiko ricolin: taking a look, but i agree with edleafe
15:23:27 edleafe ricolin: yup
15:23:37 cdent dr, I concur
15:23:48 ricolin will try to join you guys if I can:)
15:23:54 elmiko ah yes, i remember this email. i was kinda curious about our response
15:49:08 mnaser mordred: how do we go about updating patches to Ansible modules for code that recently landed in openstacksdk ?
15:49:26 mnaser i.e. brtknr has landed https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/53757 but it depends on a patch in openstacksdk
15:49:53 mnaser given we haven't released one (yet) afaik that includes it, do we hold off, do we push anyways and release openstacksdk when people yell? I'm a bit stuck on that
15:56:58 mordred mnaser: well, we've also got a request from dtruong for an sdk release containing the taskmanager patch - so I think in this case the next step is "cut an sdk release" - at which point the ansible features needing that release can check for the version and whatnot
15:57:33 mordred mnaser: in general we're generally pretty responsive to just cutting new sdk releases when needed - we happen to be in the middle of release freeze this week so it's slightly more complicated
15:59:33 mordred mnaser: I mean - I have no problem landing the ansible patch before we release sdk as long as it's protected by an "if version" - so we might want to ask brtknr to add in a check for sdk version and only add tags to the kwargs there if sdk isn't going to vomit - and maybe throw a warning if sdk is too old and tag is in params
16:00:12 edleafe The API-SIG Office Hour is now underway! Have your tickets ready!
16:00:22 elmiko \o/
16:01:29 edleafe dtantsur: around?
16:02:18 edleafe Well, let's get started
16:02:44 edleafe ricolin: has brought up the email sent to the WGs/SIGs
16:02:47 edleafe #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004246.html
16:03:11 edleafe I would be happy to respond to point #1 with the requested info
16:03:43 elmiko i think #1 is the most important for us
16:04:03 elmiko we have been pretty stable for awhile and i don't think there is a ton of "we need help on this!" type work out there
16:04:06 edleafe As for #2 (the "Help Most Needed"), do we need to add anything to that?
16:04:16 edleafe jinx-ish
16:04:18 elmiko hehe =)
16:04:38 elmiko maybe we could re-state our position about guidelines growing out of needs in the community where gaps are found?
16:04:54 elmiko a call to action for anyone who might have a need
16:04:54 ricolin edleafe, #2 it's still something we encourage people to put in since that doc itself just recently created
16:05:33 edleafe ricolin: as elmiko mentioned, we don't have a lot of activity that we undertake
16:06:06 edleafe We are here these days mostly for clarification of existing guidelines, filling in missing things, and adjudicating API disputes
16:06:38 edleafe We've tried to act as a guiding force for SDKs, but none have really stepped up to work with us
16:07:03 ricolin The help most needed also can point to some features/help that you think it's really really important but just can't get projects to join
16:07:39 elmiko imo, the help most needed might just be a call for more folks to consider what the sig has done and reach out to us if questions arise
16:07:42 edleafe ricolin: sure, but as elmiko said, we are more of a responsive group to the community
16:08:19 elmiko i'm fine with pushing more a message as the "what do we need help with" as opposed to asking for direct help on something that doesn't quite exist
16:08:25 edleafe If the community isn't clamoring for API guidance, well, we aren't going to just do things to keep busy
16:08:32 elmiko ++
16:08:53 edleafe elmiko: sounds like you're volunteering to add something for #2
16:09:04 elmiko i'll give it my best =)
16:09:38 elmiko assuming ricolin is ok with the approach i am talking about
16:09:59 edleafe As far as #3 is concerned, I don't really see our work as being suitable for a community goal. Thoughts?
16:10:04 ricolin edleafe, I don't think to list out needed most means you have to put yourself in that action. It might be some statement/goal for other teams to know that the community should reach
16:10:53 elmiko community goal is definitely for folks to know about the guidelines, and how to reach out for help when needed
16:11:06 elmiko so, i could see 2 and 3 intermingling a little
16:11:14 ricolin elmiko, yes, I'm totally okay:) this should be whatever SIG itself needs or a suggestion goal from SIG to community
16:11:29 elmiko ok, cool
16:11:51 edleafe I see community goals as something that the TC is leading because OpenStack needs to do it. Moving to Python3 is a great example. But we've clearly stated that we do not expect teams to change their existing APIs to match the guidelines; in fact, we would consider that a very bad thing
16:12:31 elmiko ++, awareness and spreading knowledge have always been our pillars, we don't advocate for action in the project teams
16:12:49 elmiko (unless asked)
16:14:18 elmiko well, i guess, edleafe should you and i take some actions to get these filled out by next week?
16:14:25 mordred edleafe, elmiko: with the exception of when there is something _Additional_ we'd like for everyone to add to their api that can be done in a backwards compatible manner
16:14:49 elmiko that's a good call out mordred
16:15:00 mordred (that being a time when a community goal *could* emmanate from api-sig work - but I generally agree, it's not the primary or normal output
16:15:06 edleafe preach, brother mordred!
16:15:48 gtema ++
16:16:07 elmiko hahaha
16:24:04 elmiko ricolin: looking at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-goals i am really not feeling that our group's activity merit an entry there

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