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#openstack-sdks - 2018-05-01
14:15:55 slaweq :)
14:57:35 gtmanfred mordred: ping
14:59:09 mordred gtmanfred: hi! I'm about to be on a phone call for an hour - but then I'll be here
14:59:52 gtmanfred awesome, thanks
15:00:49 mordred gtmanfred: however, that race condition you mention should not exist on a reasonably modern openstack - we use the create-floaing-ip-with-server-port approach rather than the 'create-floating-ip-then-attach-to-server' approach which suffers from the race condition mentioned
15:01:37 mordred if the cloud in quetsion does not expose the neutron endpoints needed to safely create floating ips in a multi-process or multi-threaded manner, we will fall back to create-and-attach
15:02:03 mordred (this is all just backgound info)
15:04:00 gtmanfred kk
15:04:55 gtmanfred lemme check what they are running, it is older
15:06:07 mordred yah- the pure nova api version of this is ... not great .. for the reasons listed in the story
15:10:07 gtmanfred mordred: he is using mitaka
15:12:06 mordred hrm. that should be new enough
15:17:44 gtmanfred I also think I tested with pike, and was running into the same problem.
15:18:05 gtmanfred what it seems like the problem is, is that we are trying to use floating ips that have already been allocated
15:18:30 gtmanfred and since multiple processes list all the available ips, and then pick one, multiple processes try to assign the same ip
15:19:38 gtmanfred this is why we went with `create and assign by default. if there are no free ips, log a warning that we are going to be not multiprocess safe, because we need to list available ones and pick one from a list`
15:23:08 openstackgerrit Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add 'port_details' to Floating IP https://review.openstack.org/533811
15:23:39 mordred yah. multi-process re-use of pre-existing floating ips is basically unpossible - without some sort of shared locking/brokering system
15:24:32 mordred in nodepool (which does this process in many many parallel threads) - we make sure we delete floating ips when we delete servers - and also have a cleanup thread that deletes any unattached floating ips it finds
15:25:13 mordred since if the create-with-server-port method is being used, there is no such thing as a validly unattached floating ip
15:25:27 gtmanfred ok, i think what I am just going to do is change the default `reuse_ips` to False, and allow them to set it if they really really really really really really really really are dumb and want to use it
15:26:25 openstackgerrit XiaojueGuan proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Trivial: Update pypi url to new url https://review.openstack.org/565418
15:26:57 mordred gtmanfred: yah
15:27:05 mordred gtmanfred: so - that said - there is an option we can do
15:27:36 mordred (it's on my list already = it's just deep down there and there's a few big ticket items we need to likely get done first)
15:28:46 mordred task number 1 is to finish making the caching tier use dogpile.cache everywhere (servers, ports and floating ips are currently done manually if caching is enabled - and there are some tricky interactions as it relates to batched operations and thundering herd that we hvae to be careful about when fixing that)
15:29:27 mordred but once we've got that, then we should be able to add in a locking/multi-process aware TaskManager (similar to the multithreaded TaskManager that's in nodepool right now)
15:29:43 mordred and leverge dogpile for the shared locking
15:29:47 gtmanfred :+1:
15:30:06 gtmanfred Lemme know what I can help with, i need to figure out what to contribute to so I can go to berlin.
15:30:06 mordred so if someone then wants to do multi-process with reuse_ips there will be a story for it
15:30:37 mordred cool. I'll write up the above into a more consumable story that doesn't involve memories in my head and ping you with it
15:30:47 gtmanfred that would be great
15:30:54 mordred \o/ winning
15:34:23 gtmanfred other than that, the new shade cloud driver has gotten rave reviews, and everyone says it is much easier to configure and more reliable than what we had before
15:54:29 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Drop bogus attributes from network port resource https://review.openstack.org/565217
16:56:47 mordred gtmanfred: yay!
19:21:55 gtmanfred mordred: also, with the cache stuff for servers, it is about 10 times faster
19:23:34 mordred yah. the cache stuff is really important - and the other thing is also about being able to enable at least in-memory caching by default
19:56:27 crunchengine mordred: hello
19:57:02 mordred crunchengine: hiya
19:57:11 crunchengine I am listing active instances, but compute give me migrating instances too
19:57:27 crunchengine self.conn.compute.servers(host=self.hostname, all_tenants=True, status="ACTIVE")
19:58:12 crunchengine those instances are still active, from kvm point of view but the filter should be state consistent no ?
19:59:23 mordred I dunno about the kvm POV - but the filter from a REST API perspective only knows about the value of teh status field. doesn't migration status show up in vm_state?
19:59:38 mordred ah - sorry - progress
19:59:54 mordred nope. thinking out loud - sorry :)
20:01:09 mordred yah - I'd expect for the status of the vm to be 'MIGRATING' from looking at the api docs
20:01:24 crunchengine print("uuid: {} status: {} task_state: {} vm_state: {}".format(i.id, i.status, i.task_state, i.vm_state))
20:01:30 crunchengine uuid: 5a562937-b0e2-4e67-8b2e-490cd44bbc3d status: MIGRATING task_state: migrating vm_state: active
20:01:38 crunchengine too much state !
20:01:45 mordred right?
20:01:47 crunchengine okay thanks !
20:03:35 crunchengine so naming is inconsistent too: return self.conn.compute.servers(host=self.hostname, all_tenants=True, status="ACTIVE")
20:03:48 crunchengine status => vm_state in lowercase...
21:58:31 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Allow tuples and sets in interface list https://review.openstack.org/564495
#openstack-sdks - 2018-05-02
10:24:46 rabel hi there. does osc support assigning system roles? ( https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/identity/v3/#system-role-assignments )
11:15:03 pooja_jadhav cmurphy: Hi
11:45:12 umbSublime is the ressource.Body updated on a ressource when something changes on the object. For example if i check a Server.hypervisor_hostname property, and then migrate the server. Do Ineed to recreate my server object to get the new Server.hypervisor_hostname ?
13:52:20 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/os-client-config master: Replace guts with openstack.config https://review.openstack.org/549307
15:03:06 umbSublime perhaps my question isn't clear, feel free to ask if so.
15:21:51 elmiko umbSublime: that seems like a nova question, but if you migrated the server through an openstack interface then it _should_ update the resource for you
15:22:18 elmiko if you did the migration outside of openstack, then i'm not sure what the behavrior would be
15:22:40 elmiko in general, we trust the resource servers to be the source of truth for information about the resources they manage
15:22:48 elmiko hope that helps
15:33:54 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Honor endpoint_override for get_session_client https://review.openstack.org/565489
15:35:43 umbSublime elmiko: What I mean is, if I create an sdk Server ressource, and then call it's 'migration' method. Once the migration is completed, can I check the new hypervisor with my existing Server ressource, or should I create a new one with the SDK
15:36:07 umbSublime to reflect those changes
15:43:02 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Don't assume a full config dict https://review.openstack.org/564493
15:44:25 elmiko umbSublime: i'm not sure about the sdk specifics, but i would imagine that at the minimum the Server uuid would be the same. not sure if that means you can use the resource or not. sorry, i misunderstood what you were asking.
15:44:49 umbSublime np elmiko thanks for giving it a shot :p
15:45:03 elmiko i would think though, that if the resource has a migration method, then you can continue to use the same resource object
15:45:19 elmiko presumably it is communicating with the openstack server on the backend
15:45:33 umbSublime I'd agree, (i'm still novice prrgrammer), but when looking at the code I see no mechanism that do that
15:45:41 elmiko ahh, gotcha
15:45:58 elmiko it might be safest to aquire a new server resource using the id of the old one
15:46:08 elmiko for maximum paranoia ;)
15:46:52 elmiko theoretically, on the backend side, the server resource id should be the same, even after migration
15:59:29 umbSublime elmiko: yah for sure, I was talking hypervisor_hostname, which should change after a migration
15:59:42 umbSublime in the meantime I agree with you i'll update my ressource :)
16:19:33 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Trivial: Update pypi url to new url https://review.openstack.org/565418
16:20:42 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Use Status variables in tests https://review.openstack.org/564258
16:20:49 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Reference class variable in Status https://review.openstack.org/564262
18:39:57 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: fix a typo in session.py https://review.openstack.org/556397
19:40:33 mnaser mordred: do you think we can get a small bump release for openstacksdk ?
19:41:15 mnaser say 0.13.1
#openstack-sdks - 2018-05-03
02:58:10 pooja_jadhav cmurphy: Hi
05:36:30 pooja_jadhav kmalloc: Hello
05:41:16 pooja_jadhav cmurphy, kmalloc, cdent : Actually, mordred has proposed patch[1] and that got merged. He has added split_loggers functionality in keystoneauth. Now I am trying to use that split_loggers parameter in core projects for enabling split logging. So instead of adding split_loggers parameter in individual projects, can we add one config option in keystoneauth for split_loggers so that, all core projects can use that config option for enabling the
05:41:16 pooja_jadhav split logging. Please give me your suggestions on the same. [1]https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505764
06:56:49 cmurphy pooja_jadhav: keystoneauth isn't a central service, it's a library that each project consumes, so i don't see how you could set the logger option globally for all services
07:01:21 pooja_jadhav cmurphy: Then how can I configure the split_logger such a that core projects can use it? Can you guide me for the same?
07:18:16 cmurphy pooja_jadhav: hmm, we might need to expose the parameter in the Adapter class for openstack services to be use it, I'm not sure
07:21:09 pooja_jadhav cmurphy: Ohk
07:40:09 openstackgerrit Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Support locking user password https://review.openstack.org/564200
07:53:12 openstackgerrit Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Support locking user password https://review.openstack.org/564200
09:39:14 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/cliff master: Remove travis.yml https://review.openstack.org/566010
11:27:33 umbSublime If possible, how can I get os-aggregates from the SDK ? Follow-up question, if not possible what is the current method to create a custom API call from a connection, in this case https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#list-aggregates
11:44:38 dtantsur mordred: hey, can I bother you about os_ironic_node ansible thingy? and overall ansible support for ironic?
13:20:02 umbSublime any hints ?

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