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| #openstack-sdks - 2018-01-27 | |||
| 18:42:33 | openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add supported method for checking the network exts https://review.openstack.org/538284 | |
| 18:42:33 | openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Clean up the release notes a bit https://review.openstack.org/538285 | |
| 18:42:34 | openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add betacloud to the vendors https://review.openstack.org/538290 | |
| 18:42:34 | openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Move profile helper method to openstack.profile https://review.openstack.org/538489 | |
| 18:59:05 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/538457 | |
| 19:40:32 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Fix batching for floating ips and ports https://review.openstack.org/538275 | |
| 20:05:03 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Pass through all_projects for get_server https://review.openstack.org/538276 | |
| 21:38:48 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Throw OpenStackCloudCreateException on create errors https://review.openstack.org/538278 | |
| 21:54:24 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/538484 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2018-01-28 | |||
| 01:49:53 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Fix tox -e venv -- reno new |
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| 01:49:54 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove deprecated compute.v2.fixedip/floatingip https://review.openstack.org/538537 | |
| 02:12:16 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: WIP: Deprecate server add/remove floating, remove fixed CLIs https://review.openstack.org/538539 | |
| 02:32:33 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Use devstack functional test base job https://review.openstack.org/538279 | |
| 02:35:14 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Remove inner_exceptions plumbing https://review.openstack.org/538280 | |
| 02:50:55 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Merge OpenstackCloud and OperatorCloud files https://review.openstack.org/538281 | |
| 02:50:56 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add retry logic mechanism https://review.openstack.org/538282 | |
| 02:50:57 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Baremetal NIC list should return a list https://review.openstack.org/538283 | |
| 02:50:58 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add supported method for checking the network exts https://review.openstack.org/538284 | |
| 02:50:59 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Clean up the release notes a bit https://review.openstack.org/538285 | |
| 02:51:00 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Add betacloud to the vendors https://review.openstack.org/538290 | |
| 03:00:00 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Move profile helper method to openstack.profile https://review.openstack.org/538489 | |
| 23:34:02 | openstackgerrit | OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Update reno for stable/queens https://review.openstack.org/538693 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2018-01-29 | |||
| 00:28:08 | openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstackclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/521902 | |
| 00:35:39 | openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/538705 | |
| 01:46:20 | openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/cliff master: Zuul: Remove project name https://review.openstack.org/538716 | |
| 02:06:24 | openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/cliff master: Zuul: Remove project name https://review.openstack.org/538718 | |
| 03:34:48 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/538705 | |
| 12:49:45 | openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/os-client-config master: Zuul: Remove project name https://review.openstack.org/538901 | |
| 15:05:32 | mordred | dtroyer: when you're up and in a position to think about things ... grenade does not seem to upgrade openstackclient in the new install | |
| 15:06:33 | mordred | dtroyer: which is causing some ... fun ... with bumping the sdk constraint - but I can't figure out why or where to fix it and could use a hand | |
| 15:08:08 | dtroyer | hmmm, no tit does not. Grenade was designed with only server-side upgrades in mind, that coupled with the clients support all versions, why are we upgrading SDK? | |
| 15:09:53 | mordred | dtroyer: it gets pulled as a transitive depend from one of the python-*clients | |
| 15:10:01 | mordred | dtroyer: lemme find which one real quick | |
| 15:10:11 | dtroyer | ugh | |
| 15:10:27 | dtroyer | there was supposed to be no cross-dependencies between sdk and *client libs | |
| 15:10:55 | dtroyer | so here is where bringing in occ breaks assumptions | |
| 15:10:57 | mordred | dtroyer: it's neutron | |
| 15:11:22 | dtroyer | that makes the entire clinet stack now release-dependant in some manner | |
| 15:11:31 | mordred | dtroyer: http://logs.openstack.org/95/538695/1/check/neutron-grenade/0917140/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2018-01-29_04_01_38_652 | |
| 15:12:00 | mordred | dtroyer: yah - lemme poke some more and see what can be done to unwind that | |
| 15:14:48 | mordred | dtroyer: heh... it's neutron -> python-designateclient -> osc-lib -> openstacksdk | |
| 15:15:47 | dtroyer | so the fix would be to pull the OSC bits out of the lib that is ultimately required by services | |
| 15:16:31 | dtroyer | and all of the "upper layer" client libs that include OSC will have this problem should they be used by another service | |
| 15:17:28 | mordred | dtroyer: why not just upgrade python-openstackclient in grenade? I don't think we're going to unwind python-*client depending on osc-lib since that's what folks are doing for their osc plugins | |
| 15:18:04 | dtroyer | this is grenade finding unknown/unwanted dependencies for us :) | |
| 15:18:09 | mordred | heh | |
| 15:18:38 | dtroyer | we can do an upgrade, and we'll be throwing out the ability to know when now clients are OpenStack release sensitive in ways that we previously said they were not | |
| 15:19:50 | amotoki | individual dependencies looks no problem (neutron -> python-designateclient and python-designateclient -> osc-lib -> openstacksdk). | |
| 15:19:54 | dtroyer | this is where the separation of python-*client and SDK became necessary, and why we can't just use SDK for everything. If we throw that away, then we can use SDK for everything | |
| 15:20:00 | amotoki | do we need to run OSC in a venv like tempest? | |
| 15:20:20 | mordred | dtroyer: I think we should use sdk for everything and delete literally al of the python-*client libraries personally | |
| 15:20:32 | dtroyer | amotoki: yes. Or vendor requirements. Or static link (whatever appears like that in python, py2exe and friends) | |
| 15:21:15 | dtroyer | mordred: I was there at the start of the SDK project. This is what changed my mind. If we do that, everything that uses SDK is tied to OpenStack releases | |
| 15:22:20 | mordred | dtroyer: not once we cut a 1.0 of sdk that has a 100% stable api- the problem here is the massive breaking API sdk change that just happened | |
| 15:22:46 | mordred | dtroyer: but it's possible that what I've just learned is that we need to completely revert all of the changes to sdk and start over from scratch | |
| 15:23:14 | dtroyer | mordred: the 1.0 is not the underlying problem, that's on top | |
| 15:23:24 | dtroyer | and we don't need to start over | |
| 15:23:52 | dtroyer | it is the separation of assumptions that clients and services make that is the problem. Those assumptions intersect but not completely | |
| 15:25:06 | dtroyer | if clients/apps that use SDK could do so in isolation, then the version conflict is a non-issue and both stacks can install the version they need. | |
| 15:25:20 | dtroyer | in a DevStack non-venv world, this just doesn't work | |
| 15:25:55 | dtroyer | this is one of the things that drove the addition (still unfinished IIIRC) of venv support to DevStack | |
| 15:26:53 | mordred | yah - I hear all of that - but I'm not sure how to move forward in a way that will unstick the queens release but not screw everything | |
| 15:27:01 | dtroyer | so yeah, short term just add an upgrade step somewhere to get everything that depends on SDK to grenade | |
| 15:27:24 | mordred | ah - ok - do that short term, unwind things as a longer term step? | |
| 15:31:12 | dtroyer | I suppose… | |
| 15:31:51 | dtroyer | and long-term split all sdk/osc bits out of python-*client libs that are going to be used by another service | |
| 15:32:48 | dtroyer | or we just containerize the control plane upstream and call it a day :) | |
| 15:32:52 | mordred | dtroyer: heh | |
| 15:39:46 | amotoki | this situation happens because both SDK and CLI stuffs are provided by a single deliverable. it makes things complicated | |
| 15:40:03 | amotoki | neutron just needs the python binding of desginateclient, but designateclient OSC plugin depends on osc-lib.... | |
| 15:40:36 | mordred | amotoki: yes 100% | |
| 15:40:58 | amotoki | this discussion raises me again a question on where python binding should be implemented. | |
| 15:41:22 | dtroyer | that really doens't matter as long as we do not cross the client/server streams :) | |
| 15:42:00 | dtroyer | really, it was my failure to imagine that client libs with OSc bits in them would be used by servers too that let this happen | |
| 15:42:08 | mordred | amotoki: honestly I truly believe we should delete all of the python-*client bindings - but that's a much bigger engineering effort as we'd have to unwind or rethink a ton of things we don't really have the bandwidth to rethink these days | |
| 15:42:15 | dtroyer | putting the OSc bits into a separate repo solves it | |
| 15:42:20 | mordred | dtroyer: ++ | |
| 15:42:36 | mordred | to the osc bits in separare repo | |
| 15:42:51 | amotoki | yeah, but it needs project teams need to maintain more repos.. | |
| 15:43:36 | mordred | dtroyer, amotoki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538951/ and then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538695/ depends-on it | |
| 15:46:05 | amotoki | i hope it works | |
| 15:46:20 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/cliff master: sphinxext: Warn if namespace or command pattern invalid https://review.openstack.org/510913 | |
| 15:47:30 | mordred | amotoki: me too | |
| 15:48:22 | dtroyer | I left a comment including the short- and long-term intentions | |
| 15:49:33 | mordred | awesome | |
| 15:50:08 | mordred | dtroyer: it might be worth talking through this whole thing at the PTG, too | |
| 15:53:15 | dtroyer | mordred: yeah, either re-affirm the assumptions or choose to change them... | |
| 15:53:24 | mordred | yup. | |
| 15:53:48 | mordred | dtroyer: btw - I think we're going to need a patch for osc master too - poking at that now | |
| 16:00:56 | openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Use find_ip from openstacksdk https://review.openstack.org/538958 | |
| 16:13:56 | mordred | dtroyer: I also pushed up this to stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/538963 Use find_ip from openstacksdk ... if it works and we cut a 3.12.1 release I think we can avoid the grenade change - I'll leave it to your judgement as to which thing you find preferrable | |
| 16:15:25 | mordred | dtroyer: I also think I *might* have an idea of a patch to make to sdk that could deal with the issue as well ... experimenting with that now | |
| 16:18:09 | dtroyer | That cleanup to OSC should happen either way so if it helps we'll push it in | |
| 16:19:40 | mordred | awesome | |
| 16:20:04 | mordred | maybe between the OSC cleanup and the sdk patch I'm working on now we can avoid the short-term grenade hacks | |
| 16:48:02 | openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Provide compatibility for people passing raw sessions https://review.openstack.org/538968 | |
| 16:48:44 | mordred | dtroyer, amotoki: ok - I *think* that ^^ will actually fix the current issue without the grenade or osc patches ... the patch adds the neutron-grenade job just to be sure | |
| 16:49:07 | mordred | if that patch comes back green, then we should be able to land it and cut an sdk point release and have all the stuff work | |
| 16:50:17 | mordred | (and if it works, I'll make a followup patch that adds the call in to all of the places it needs to to be called | |
| 17:22:33 | dtroyer | mordred: do we have any idea if anything that isn't OSC does that Session thing? | |