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#openstack-sdks - 2017-12-28
07:06:24 openstackgerrit Chen Hanxiao proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: flavor: clarify --swap description https://review.openstack.org/530307
15:19:07 openstackgerrit Guoqiang Ding proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Update docs build job for new documentation PTI jobs https://review.openstack.org/530378
15:22:20 openstackgerrit Guoqiang Ding proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Update new documentation PTI jobs https://review.openstack.org/530378
16:13:57 openstackgerrit Guoqiang Ding proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Update new documentation PTI jobs https://review.openstack.org/530385
16:16:33 openstackgerrit Guoqiang Ding proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Update new documentation PTI jobs https://review.openstack.org/530378
20:09:26 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/cliff master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/525301
20:25:09 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/osc-lib master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/528887
23:31:41 openstackgerrit Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Follow the link rabbit (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/526809
23:31:51 openstackgerrit Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Follow the link rabbit https://review.openstack.org/526809
23:47:13 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: flavor: clarify --swap description https://review.openstack.org/530307
#openstack-sdks - 2017-12-29
01:32:27 openstackgerrit Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Follow the link rabbit https://review.openstack.org/526809
02:36:45 openstackgerrit Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Follow the link rabbit https://review.openstack.org/526809
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#openstack-sdks - 2017-12-31
06:01:23 ldl why openstack-sdk do not create specs for it?
13:00:27 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Allow port list to shown undefined attributes https://review.openstack.org/522901
#openstack-sdks - 2018-01-02
04:35:17 openstackgerrit Nguyen Hung Phuong proposed openstack/cliff master: Remove empty files https://review.openstack.org/530674
10:51:03 ldl hi
10:52:01 ldl_ hi
13:26:58 cdent elmiko, edleafe, dtantsur|afk : did you receive a link to the pending foundation report where they want some input from api-sig on what we did?
13:46:03 elmiko cdent: i have not seen said link yet
15:45:11 edleafe cdent: I'm horribly distracted at the moment as a result of having to set up an office 2 hours from my home, so if I got something, I won't find it for a few hours
15:46:17 cdent edleafe: no worries, I think I can take care of it. And I'm pretty sure they sent it just to me. Probably alphabetical choice
15:46:49 edleafe cdent: or since you're more visibile, with the TC and all
16:02:19 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/cliff master: Add ability to sort data by columns for list commands https://review.openstack.org/521351
16:34:44 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Start using Connection in openstack.cloud https://review.openstack.org/523259
16:34:44 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: WIP: Make resource2.Resource inherit from Munch https://review.openstack.org/529592
16:34:45 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Remove self argument from connect helper function https://review.openstack.org/530768
16:34:45 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Use links dicts for pagination https://review.openstack.org/530769
16:34:46 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Use sdk for list_servers https://review.openstack.org/530770
16:35:26 mordred rods_: ^^ I rebased your patch in with that stack - and then updated it just a smidge - it works now - but I think there is still some work needed to make it good
18:34:27 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Set empty Tag list if Network Tag API extension not supported https://review.openstack.org/523834
18:43:04 openstackgerrit Merged openstack-infra/shade master: Add supported method for checking the network exts https://review.openstack.org/529360
19:59:12 rods_ mordred thx, I'm giving a look in a minute
20:07:13 mordred rods_: just wait - I've got a REALLY fun followup coming :)
20:07:23 mordred rods_: (I may have gotten myself nerd-sniped)
21:24:57 openstackgerrit Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade master: WIP: Add support for portgroups/vifs https://review.openstack.org/530803
#openstack-sdks - 2018-01-03
03:08:13 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Remove self argument from connect helper function https://review.openstack.org/530768
04:25:23 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Make resource a dict subclass usable by shade layer https://review.openstack.org/530835
04:25:24 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Rename Resource.get to Resource.fetch https://review.openstack.org/530836
04:25:38 mordred rods_: ^^ ok. there you go - enjoy!
10:34:50 cmurphy || ggrreepp ssddbb
10:35:03 cmurphy rename pike.rst to master.rst i think
10:35:05 cmurphy || ggrreepp ssddbb
10:37:21 cmurphy oh wow sorry
10:38:04 cmurphy terminal problems
10:38:21 cdent no need to apologize, a) I was curious, b) it wasn't clear you knew it happened
15:19:35 mordred cdent, cmurphy: that was my first morning irc communication to read - I think today is going to be a good day
15:19:56 cdent agreed
15:23:10 cmurphy always happy to entertain
15:23:51 cmurphy (fwiw terminator + weechat = bad)
15:26:33 Shrews cmurphy: yeah, i had issues with that combo
16:52:46 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Update new documentation PTI jobs https://review.openstack.org/530378
16:55:52 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/osc-lib master: Fix sorting in Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/526046
17:26:46 openstackgerrit Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Update for new docs PTI https://review.openstack.org/530978
21:11:03 openstackgerrit Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Allow ports filtering with device_id https://review.openstack.org/526798
21:13:34 mordred cdent: you know everything, right?
21:14:19 mordred cdent: do you happen to know if there are any openstack services that paginate resources with limit/marker but do not return a {foo}_links dict with next links in it?
21:17:58 mordred cdent: the question comes up because of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530769 and briancurtin's comments on it - I'm gonna go look and see what I can learn, but I figured if anyone happened to know off the top of their head about outliers that it would be helpful
21:18:21 mordred edleafe, elmiko: ^^ in case you happen to know
21:19:52 edleafe mordred: I confess that I do not know of any
21:20:07 edleafe mordred: I also confess that I haven't researched that at all :)
21:53:12 elmiko mordred: i haven't looked into that, and it looks like we have not done a study across projects about it. if you end up poking around, any info would be appreciated =)
21:53:15 elmiko https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Current_Design
22:12:14 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-openstacksdk master: Start using Connection in openstack.cloud https://review.openstack.org/523259
22:14:51 openstackgerrit Bar Elharar proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Suppress subTest() expected errors https://review.openstack.org/531025
22:18:36 openstackgerrit Bar Elharar proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Suppress subTest() expected errors https://review.openstack.org/531025
22:26:00 openstackgerrit Bar Elharar proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Suppress subTest() expected errors https://review.openstack.org/531025
22:28:44 mordred edleafe, elmiko: thanks - I think I'm going to start with a mailing list message and see where it gets me
22:40:54 cdent mordred, edleafe, elmiko : I was elsewhere, catching up
22:42:25 mordred cdent, edleafe, elmiko: I've found at least one example of a service that does not return $foo_links with a next link to indicate that there are more results available ... swift
22:43:32 mordred although now the question is - is it *only* swift (and therefore something that could be overridden in the sdk just for swift) or are there more, in which case adding a pagination_type flag to Resource objects may be the right choice
22:43:47 cdent are you using _ as an indicator of object descent, like server.links
22:44:36 cdent because both the api-wg guidance and looking at nova I'm not seeing what you're talking about, mordred, but I'm also not sure I know what you're talking about
22:46:01 mordred cdent: I've found another - glance is also different ... BUT ... for instance, https://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute/paginated_collections.html
22:46:18 cdent and https://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute/links_and_references.html
22:46:31 mordred cdent: nova returns {"servers": [...], "servers_links": [..]}
22:46:56 mordred so for a server list one can check servers_links for a next link, and if it exists, follow it
22:47:13 cdent sigh
22:47:44 cdent nobody ever follows the guidance ( http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/links.html) and even the services aren't in sync with themselves
22:48:10 mordred cdent: but for glance, it's {"images": [...], "next": "http:..."}
22:48:18 cdent blargh
22:48:22 mordred cdent: well - these links are a little bit different than the per-object links
22:48:51 cdent the pagination guidance doesn't distinguish, it's suggest generic 'links': http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/pagination_filter_sort.html#pagination
22:48:52 mordred cdent: I actually *do* see the reference links pretty frequently and consistently - other than when they're broken because reverse-proxies aren't set up correctly :)
22:49:36 cdent mordred: oh, I didn't mean nobody follows links. I mean projects not developing consistently.
22:49:44 mordred oh - yah.
22:50:07 cdent the pagination guidance example on that last link (heh) uses just 'links' in a relatively sane collection example
22:50:10 briancurtin since approximately day one, and going on until approximately forever, unfortunately
22:50:12 mordred cdent: that api-wg guidance is nice - and at least structurally similar to what I see from cinder and nova (naming notwithstanding)
22:50:15 cdent so yeah, I would guess that briancurtin is right
22:50:27 mordred briancurtin wins
22:52:14 mordred briancurtin: so - since a quick look has shown at least 4 different mechanisms, I'm thinking I should rework that patch to add a resource-level config flag choose one, with the behavior defaulting to the current sdk inferance behavior
22:53:01 mordred briancurtin: so that as we know or understand that a given resource provides links guidance we can opt a resource in to that behavior, but there is a good default that should work in the other cases
22:53:05 briancurtin mordred: that’s probably reasonable. we originally thought to go something like that direction for times when we knew for sure we wouldn’t need that extra call, so go for it
22:53:12 briancurtin yep
22:53:19 mordred woot

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