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#openstack-nova - 2026-10-01
18:41:37 dansmith it's just one of those things where the v2 is an ugly wart but "block_device_mapping" and device_mapping_block" would be way too confusing trying to remember which one was new
18:42:10 dansmith anyway, just wanted to make sure we're on the same page, and sounds like we are
18:42:23 melwitt sure
19:21:47 opendevreview Michael Sherman proposed openstack/nova master: ironic: Reproduce node leak after local delete https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008334
19:47:23 opendevreview Ghanshyam Maan proposed openstack/nova master: Reduce the unnecessary executors shutdown logs in test jobs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1004160
20:06:47 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Revert "Make tox cover non voting to unblock RC1" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1007996
20:41:46 adamcarthur5 Uggla dansmith sean-k-mooney thank you for your comments, here and on the review. I will work through them. In terms of the PTG, is there an ideal date/time that I should suggest in the etherpad? In terms of performance, I agree with you. I am happy to work on performance testing for such a change, I would just need some help for making the right
20:41:46 adamcarthur5 assumptions when I benchmark.
20:42:36 adamcarthur5 If benchmarking potential changes would be something useful pre-PTG, I can work on that? I.e. maybe the implementation is not quite right, but we can get a sense of performance? Does that make sense?
20:54:40 JayF adamcarthur5: I can't speak for how nova does things, but if you're getting reviews on your spec and making design progress async, a PTG session may be less needed. I'd suggest prioritizing quick roundtrips on those reviews.
20:55:07 adamcarthur5 JayF I was basing it off what they said early in the chat ^^^^
20:55:19 adamcarthur5 But yes quick turn around on the reviews is also the plan
20:55:47 JayF I mainly wanted you to know if your spec is getting reviewed, you're already making good progress :)
20:56:07 adamcarthur5 👍
21:13:10 opendevreview Adam McArthur proposed openstack/nova master: Use safe allocation deletion on instance delete https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1003208
#openstack-nova - 2026-10-02
00:12:56 gmaan gibi: sambork these two are ready https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1006351 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1004160
00:15:19 opendevreview Ghanshyam Maan proposed openstack/nova stable/2026.2: Revert "Make tox cover non voting to unblock RC1" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008367
00:19:32 gmaan gibi: elodilles ^^ as fix is backported, making it voting on 2026.2 too
02:39:16 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: testing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008371
06:37:48 opendevreview Juan Larriba proposed openstack/nova master: Add OpenTelemetry tracing middleware for Nova https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/982871
09:52:44 gibi gmaan: thanks I put my positive votes :)
09:53:00 gibi gmaan: when you are up this is also good to go now in my eyes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1001369
12:17:26 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/os-vif master: trivial: Fix indentation in pyproject.toml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/1008450
12:32:28 Uggla adamcarthur5, JayF, getting reviews is the main issue due to our limited review capacity. That's one of the reasons why we'd like to have a topic at the PTG and, if possible, a spec. The idea is to understand the use case and agree on a direction for addressing it.
12:35:58 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Func reproducer for bug/2168874 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1007917
12:35:58 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix cross-cell cold migration with PCI devices https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008071
12:44:58 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Run periodics outside compute test callbacks https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1007150
13:40:14 opendevreview Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Create an executor wrapper that has task limit per type https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/975924
15:08:24 opendevreview Merged openstack/os-vif master: trivial: Fix indentation in pyproject.toml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/1008450
16:10:46 gmaan gibi: done, thanks
16:10:52 gmaan gibi: i think you missed this? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1006351/7
23:08:53 opendevreview taha hosseini proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: assign virtio storage devices to guest IOThread https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008546
#openstack-nova - 2026-10-03
06:20:33 opendevreview taha hosseini proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: assign virtio storage devices to guest IOThread https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008546
06:28:26 opendevreview Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/nova master: Add hot attach/detach support for virtiofs shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008154
06:28:26 opendevreview Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/nova master: Add live migration support for virtiofs shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008566
07:26:26 opendevreview Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Update contributor guide for 2027.1 Indri https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008569
08:24:06 opendevreview taha hosseini proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: assign virtio storage devices to guest IOThread https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008546
08:48:22 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Fix init_host crash migration test under native threading https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1001369
#openstack-nova - 2026-10-05
00:50:21 opendevreview Masanori Ueno proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Update nova-api restart command for Ubuntu https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008734
08:51:58 gibi gmaan: indeed I missed that. Looking at it now
08:58:55 yunhokim_ Hi all, I'd like to add a topic to the nova-cinder cross-project session at the PTG.
08:58:55 yunhokim_ Topic: booting servers from Cinder-backup-based images
08:58:55 yunhokim_ Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-boot-from-backup-based-image
08:58:55 yunhokim_ Background: this was proposed as a Glance spec at the 2026.2 PTG (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/984902), but it stalled because it also needs Nova/Cinder-side changes, so I'm bringing it to Nova this time.
08:58:55 yunhokim_ There's no nova-spec yet, but I can write one before the PTG if that would help the discussion.
08:58:56 yunhokim_ Is it OK if I add it to the cross-session section of the etherpad?
09:03:45 gibi Uggla: ^^
09:06:10 Uggla yunhokim_ can you add your topic at the bottom of the doc https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2027.1-ptg , I think we will have enough time to cover it during the cinder/nova session.
10:04:40 yunhokim_ Uggla: i've added the topic at the bottom of the etherpad. PTAL, thanks!
10:04:59 Uggla yunhokim_ 👍
11:14:21 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2026.2: Revert "Make tox cover non voting to unblock RC1" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008367
13:06:17 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Replace deprecated sqlalchemy.orm.noload https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1007632
13:20:28 stephenfin gibi: jfyi https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/1004780
13:25:00 lajoskatona Uggla: Hi, I opened a bug for the neutron SDK work for Nova: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2169539 this can make tracking easier
13:25:32 lajoskatona Uggla: today I can't participate the meeting, or only the first ~15mins
13:47:33 opendevreview Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Add test for MTU overwrite during live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/995803
13:47:41 opendevreview Matěj Mudra proposed openstack/nova master: Add --verbose to nova-manage commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/999956
13:58:44 opendevreview sean mooney proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Specify atomic PCI passthrough groups for Nova https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/975635
14:01:10 opendevreview Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Preserve source MTU during live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/995809
14:01:21 sean-k-mooney gibi: no rush but i think ^ has adressed any remaining opens while maintianing the core or the v5 desgin intact, the addtion of `exclude` come directly form my testing with modern nvida gpus, they all seam to use the same pci vendor id and product id for PF and mig VFs making it a pain to list them otherwise.
14:25:41 bauzas dansmith: I don't know if you have either will or capacity for reviewing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1005727/ but it would be nice if you could do so for at least the first two patches in the series
14:26:11 dansmith bauzas: yes sorry I've had it open and keep getting pulled into other things
14:26:17 dansmith bauzas: keep nagging
14:26:23 bauzas no worries, we all feel the same
14:26:56 bauzas semi-related I got the chance to be free for 1.5h so I eventually was able to sit down and read your spec
14:32:16 dansmith ack, thanks
14:54:33 gibi folks I've closed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2165149 as the last hit was 13 days ago. If you see functional failure with "qlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (sqlite3.OperationalError) database is locked" then please reopen the bug and ping me
14:56:14 sean-k-mooney gibi: nice
14:56:48 dansmith bauzas: sorry I thought more had changed here but it looks like maybe unintentional change of a lot of nearby lines in the second patch that looks intentional/functional but isn't?
14:58:01 sean-k-mooney dansmith: we might eb able to add a signle line to agetns.md to prevent that
14:58:18 sean-k-mooney the issue with the wrapping of the comments is because pep8 requires we use a shortor 72 column limit
14:58:20 dansmith sean-k-mooney: yeah I think we should.. I have an instruction in my local one
14:58:23 sean-k-mooney but nova does nto follow that convention
14:58:58 dansmith sean-k-mooney: well, there are other such things which are purely style preference that get changed
14:59:26 dansmith sean-k-mooney: I'll propose an agents change and tag you
14:59:56 sean-k-mooney acki didnt really look closely at the other changes but ya it the second paragrah im 90% for the comments at least https://peps.python.org/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length
15:00:13 sean-k-mooney ```For flowing long blocks of text with fewer structural restrictions (docstrings or comments), the line length should be limited to 72 characters.```
15:04:02 opendevreview Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add agent instructions about gardening https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1008817
15:04:07 dansmith sean-k-mooney: ^
15:04:19 sean-k-mooney :) gardening
15:04:49 dansmith a human referred to this using that term years ago, so it's always what I call it now
15:05:17 sean-k-mooney ack the phasing in the guardrails looks good to me
15:07:54 sean-k-mooney i have started experimenting with https://github.com/DietrichGebert/ponytail/blob/main/skills/ponytail/SKILL.md and https://github.com/cursor/plugins/blob/main/pstack/skills/unslop/SKILL.md lately in my own use
15:10:05 sean-k-mooney i have not used either enouch to say it definitivly helps but anicdtally they have. im reseving judgement unitll i atempt larger work with them
15:11:49 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Run periodics outside compute test callbacks https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1007150
15:13:27 sean-k-mooney gibi: hum that intereesting i didnt think about the fact that the preodic woudl be in a diffent treadh/db context in that case
15:13:47 dansmith oh I like the unslop one
15:14:18 dansmith normally I just stop what I'm doing to verbally berate the agent for being so agentic in is verbiage.. makes me feel better.
15:14:22 sean-k-mooney that one i have found useful even if you jsut copy paste part fo it in your personal agent md
15:16:39 gibi sean-k-mooney: we basically sometimes triggering the periodic job of compute B in the computeA RPC handeler
15:16:51 sean-k-mooney i have only been using those for about 2-3 weeks so again i can say it impoved but it feels better.
15:17:15 sean-k-mooney gibi: oh ok ya that woudl be incorrect
15:17:36 sean-k-mooney escially if a and b were in differnet cells ectra
15:18:27 gibi yeah these tests were complicated :)
15:20:03 gibi gmaan: btw I finally reviewed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/1006351 I have a bunch of small things that together might make sense to fix
15:20:24 sean-k-mooney general oslo.servce questsion https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.run_external_periodic_tasks, i dont think nova really supprot changing that form its defautl as to my knowlage we dont have any external perodic like that
15:20:41 sean-k-mooney do we really need to expsoe thsoe in our config?
15:21:11 sean-k-mooney i wonder if we shoudl propose taging that option as advanced
15:21:44 gibi yeah at least it is no-op as we don't have such tasks
15:22:37 sean-k-mooney there is also https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.periodic_enable nova might work with them disabeld but we certenly dont test that

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