| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2026-07-20 | |||
| 14:14:57 | gibi | antia: sounds good. thanks | |
| 14:20:25 | tkajinam | bauzas, thanks for approving the remaining patches ! | |
| 14:20:51 | bauzas | tkajinam: sorry was pretty packed with other stuff downstream but I reviewed the whole series :) | |
| 14:21:04 | bauzas | thanks for the hard work ! | |
| 14:42:56 | gmaan | gibi: i replied on the security group name (trailiing/leading whitespace) issue, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/995073 | |
| 14:43:48 | gibi | gmaan: thanks | |
| 14:44:01 | gmaan | it seems we need to fix it with microverison. If so then i know we said every API change need spec but this seems straight forward issue to fix so not sure if we can wave off the spec requirement here and fix as specless BP or just bug tracking | |
| 14:45:04 | gmaan | for me, we do not need to do spec here and can just review/merge the fix but would like to know what other things | |
| 14:45:44 | gmaan | i can add it in today meeting agenda though | |
| 14:45:48 | gibi | gmaan: yeah. I'm a bit sad about this needed a new microversion. It feels our microversion rules are too strict regarding bugs. But I'm not dying on this specific bugfix hill. | |
| 14:46:34 | gmaan | i know sometime microversion are overkil but that is what we have | |
| 14:46:41 | gibi | regarding fixing in specless bp we need the core team's overall agreement but I'm OK if it is really just changing the schema to allow what neutron allows | |
| 14:47:36 | gibi | gmaan: "that is what we have" I feel like we are fully in charge to decide what we have as a rule :) | |
| 14:49:20 | gmaan | well, its interop issue not backward compatiblity and we have taken both into account in past. I am ok if we want to change some rule to relax the microversion bump need but that will be agreed separatly as overall policy | |
| 14:50:14 | gmaan | ok, as the use case itself is not good/weired, let it go in it own pace then. I will ask author to propose spec and it can go in next cycle as this cycle spec is done | |
| 14:52:16 | gibi | interop as two clouds with the same API microversion behaving differently because they are on different nova-api software level? | |
| 14:53:11 | gibi | if so, that is super limiting. I.e. if a bugfix changes a nova 500 to a nova 200 and an active server, that is an interop issue in that definition as such bug fix changes the observed behavior of nova on the same microversion | |
| 14:53:39 | gibi | but we are tend to fix bug to change the observed behavior of nova | |
| 14:54:05 | gibi | anyhow this is a wider discussion | |
| 14:55:53 | gmaan | yeah, we had one such cases 2.42 microversion for network device tag which we added in 2.33 microversion, introduced bug which removed it from schema 2.37?, then added back in 2.42 microversion | |
| 14:56:39 | gmaan | it is mainly issue for users/apps moving from cloud allowing whitespace SG name to cloud rejecting them | |
| 14:58:25 | opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Stabilize test_failed_count_with_anti_affinity_violation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/998001 | |
| 15:09:42 | bauzas | reminder : nova meeting here in ~50 mins | |
| 15:35:48 | gmaan | any one would like to add 2nd +2 on these enforce_scope release notes/requirement bump https://review.opendev.org/q/hashtag:%22remove-enforce-scope-flag%22+hashtag:%22nova%22status:open | |
| 15:37:55 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/os-traits master: Update supported python versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-traits/+/998011 | |
| 15:39:01 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/os-resource-classes master: Update supported python versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-resource-classes/+/998012 | |
| 15:42:26 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/os-vif master: Declare Python 3.14 support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/998013 | |
| 16:00:22 | bauzas | #startmeeting nova | |
| 16:00:22 | opendevmeet | Meeting started Mon Jul 20 16:00:22 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | |
| 16:00:22 | opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 16:00:22 | opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | |
| 16:00:48 | bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | |
| 16:01:04 | bauzas | hey folks, chairing the meeting due to Uggla's PTO | |
| 16:01:05 | elodilles | o/ | |
| 16:01:10 | gibi | o/ | |
| 16:01:11 | sambork | o/ | |
| 16:01:14 | bauzas | let's try to have a short one :) | |
| 16:01:31 | bauzas | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | |
| 16:01:33 | antia | o/ | |
| 16:01:37 | bauzas | #info No Critical bug | |
| 16:01:44 | bauzas | #topic Gate status | |
| 16:01:44 | fwiesel | o/ | |
| 16:01:45 | tkajinam | o/ | |
| 16:01:48 | bauzas | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | |
| 16:02:00 | bauzas | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | |
| 16:02:06 | bauzas | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | |
| 16:02:11 | bauzas | #info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck | |
| 16:02:20 | bauzas | anything to mention about the gate ? | |
| 16:02:35 | bauzas | I think we no longer have a gate failure now :) | |
| 16:03:39 | tkajinam | yeah | |
| 16:03:54 | bauzas | cool | |
| 16:03:57 | bauzas | moving on | |
| 16:04:06 | bauzas | #topic Release Planning | |
| 16:04:11 | bauzas | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html | |
| 16:04:18 | bauzas | #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule | |
| 16:04:24 | gmaan | o/ | |
| 16:04:51 | bauzas | #topic Review priorities | |
| 16:04:57 | bauzas | #link New file for Hibiscus https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.2-status | |
| 16:05:13 | bauzas | #info Uggla has updated Launchpad and the above doc. Please ping me if you spot something missing. | |
| 16:05:22 | bauzas | #undo | |
| 16:05:22 | opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #info Uggla has updated Launchpad and the above doc. Please ping me if you spot something missing. | |
| 16:05:30 | bauzas | #info Uggla has updated Launchpad and the above doc. Please ping him if you spot something missing. | |
| 16:05:44 | bauzas | #info Starting: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.2-status#L16 interesting bugs to review. | |
| 16:05:52 | bauzas | anything to discuss about the statuses ? | |
| 16:06:29 | bauzas | kk | |
| 16:06:34 | bauzas | #topic Stable Branches | |
| 16:06:41 | bauzas | elodilles: your time :) | |
| 16:06:45 | elodilles | thanks :) | |
| 16:06:48 | elodilles | #info placement stable/2025.1 is blocked - workaround: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/992299 | |
| 16:06:57 | elodilles | #info other stable gates should be OK | |
| 16:07:25 | bauzas | approved the workaround | |
| 16:07:27 | elodilles | sean-k-mooney's backports fixed stable/2025.1 nova gate. thanks all o/ | |
| 16:07:41 | elodilles | bauzas: thanks!!!! \o/ | |
| 16:07:47 | bauzas | anything else ? | |
| 16:08:01 | elodilles | only this one: | |
| 16:08:04 | elodilles | #info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci | |
| 16:08:07 | elodilles | :) | |
| 16:08:12 | elodilles | bauzas: back to you | |
| 16:08:17 | bauzas | k | |
| 16:08:22 | bauzas | #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights | |
| 16:08:28 | bauzas | fwiesel: around ? | |
| 16:08:33 | fwiesel | Hi | |
| 16:08:52 | bauzas | o/ | |
| 16:09:00 | fwiesel | Yes, I looked into the pipeline failures, and instance creations were slowed down to that extend that no instances were being created. | |
| 16:09:32 | fwiesel | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.vmware/+/997269 | |
| 16:10:01 | fwiesel | This should reduce the overhead of doing api calls against VSphere, but I am suspecting it is not the full picture. | |
| 16:10:09 | fwiesel | Still digging into it. | |
| 16:10:13 | fwiesel | That's from my side. | |
| 16:11:24 | bauzas | cool thanks | |
| 16:11:31 | bauzas | #topic Kamil's news about eventlet removal | |
| 16:11:41 | bauzas | sambork ? | |
| 16:11:52 | sambork | o/ | |
| 16:12:20 | sambork | last week was dominated by test stabilization: the unit test exclude list is gone, and there's a push to make the threading functional CI job voting. | |
| 16:12:53 | gibi | e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2161293 ^^ | |
| 16:13:07 | sambork | he code cleanup is moving forward by replacing Nova-internal threading utilities with futurist primitives (both nova and futurist patch are pushed and ready for review) | |
| 16:13:31 | sambork | eom | |
| 16:13:51 | sambork | anything to add gibi? (thanks for bug above) | |
| 16:14:14 | gibi | fwiesel's finding is sort of eventlet related and I made mental note about performanc of the oslo retry decorator that could effect nova as well not just oslo.vmware | |
| 16:14:38 | gibi | we might want to take a hard look of the usage of that and consider tenacity's cheaper retry all over the place | |
| 16:15:32 | gibi | aaand I still haven't filed the bug to switch the default of our unit test execution to threading and just keep one tox job for unit test + eventlet | |