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#openstack-nova - 2026-04-28
18:04:15 sean-k-mooney melwitt: i should see if it still work, but you could point it at phsyicla system too and just run it
18:04:15 JayF you also got a 3-in-1 ironic cores review on it (me/cli.f/ci.d in a GR-OSS team review)
18:04:26 JayF although admittedly some % of that time was spent explaining resechedules in nova :D
18:04:47 sean-k-mooney JayF: technially they nolonger exist
18:04:54 sean-k-mooney we replaced it with alternitive hosts
18:05:04 sean-k-mooney so we can aovid going back to the schduler
18:05:10 JayF is there a meaningful difference from an Ironic standpoint?
18:05:17 sean-k-mooney no
18:05:29 sean-k-mooney the diffent is es dont goback to the chsduelr if ther first host fails
18:05:35 JayF Nice, so you just get to avoid the double dip in the scheduler
18:05:41 sean-k-mooney we callulate alterntive in advnace and just select the next one
18:05:46 sean-k-mooney yep
18:05:51 JayF if those alternatives are scheduled to in the meantime
18:06:08 sean-k-mooney the allcoation fails super early adn we go to the next one
18:06:15 JayF ack, so it is a meaningful change for Ironic users :)
18:06:26 sean-k-mooney basiclly the first thing we do is see if the canidate allcation is still valid and if not we go to the next
18:06:32 JayF there's nearly zero chance that after a timed out deployment (hours) those allocs would still be valid
18:07:00 sean-k-mooney well perhasp but this also changed in like pike or rocky
18:07:26 sean-k-mooney it was part fo the cell_v2 work
18:07:32 JayF Nice to know, albeit WAY too late, about the behavior though. Could be surprising for an Ironic user.
18:08:06 JayF (I'm not saying you all had some responsibility to tell us; mainly annoyed I've had a flawed mental model for bordering-on a decade)
18:09:51 JayF cid: clif: Worth reading the backlog if you wanna fill in the gaps around how retrying actually works now ^^^
18:15:15 dansmith yeah I think at this point it has worked that way for longer than it worked the other way :)
18:16:30 JayF dansmith: I still find myself un-learning things that I "learned" from the old, hacked to @%$! cloud at my first OpenStack employer :)
18:16:43 JayF this is added to the list, a good 12 years later :(
19:05:08 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Increase wait retries for resize reschedule with qos port test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986468
#openstack-nova - 2026-04-29
01:18:32 opendevreview Ghanshyam Maan proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Test removal of enforce_scope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986479
01:24:01 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: performance: reduce calls to libvirt / add caching https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/922855
01:24:15 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: ironic: Abort build on fatal image validation errors https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/983753
01:24:29 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2025.2: fix: device_by_alias should respect config type https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/984920
01:24:40 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2025.1: api: Handle empty imageRef alongside null for local BDM check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/980541
01:24:52 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2024.2: Reproduce bug/2115905 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960244
01:25:02 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2024.2: [PCI tracker]Remove non configured devs when freed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960245
01:25:14 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2024.2: [pci]Keep used dev in Placement regardless of dev_spec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960246
04:02:45 opendevreview Ghanshyam Maan proposed openstack/nova master: Standardize the service-to-service communication https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986590
04:05:49 opendevreview Ghanshyam Maan proposed openstack/nova master: Standardize the service-to-service communication https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986590
06:24:58 opendevreview Nilesh Thathagar proposed openstack/nova master: Dell PowerFlex: Pass requested_size to os-brick on extend https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986604
07:12:25 opendevreview Philipp Dreesens proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add spec for bidirectional RPC liveness handshake https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/984384
07:59:18 opendevreview Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova stable/2026.1: Doc: add short doc section for mdev_class https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986618
08:30:03 opendevreview Ashish Gupta proposed openstack/nova master: Disable greenlet-based notifier sender check under native threading temporarily https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/985621
11:18:47 elodilles Uggla: hi, this is just a heads up, that i might not be able to join to today's bug roster meeting, i've added comments/question to my bugs to those i had time to look at.
11:36:55 opendevreview Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Change nova-alt-configurations job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/983179
11:52:05 gibi Uggla: have to say the same unfortunately
11:55:52 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Test nova CLI commands with native threading https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/984036
13:36:52 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Doc: fix misleading PCI address in multi-VF example https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986650
13:57:22 sambork @Uggla: Hey, Same here (in case of bug triage) i have updated the etherpad; two ofthe bugs are duplicates, and i'm currently trying to create a reproducer for the third one
13:57:46 Uggla sambork ok no problem.
14:12:01 opendevreview Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/nova master: Fix invalid jsonschema for keypair list response https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986660
14:17:06 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Support different resource classes for VFs on the same PF https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/986661
14:36:39 opendevreview Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/nova master: Fix invalid jsonschema for keypair list response https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986660
14:37:54 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Drop redundant N371 check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/972302
15:08:02 stephenfin gmaan: Looks like gtema found a bug in the keypair JSON schema spec, if you've time to take a look https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986660
15:18:11 melwitt bauzas: hey do you think you might be able to take a look at the bottom 3 patches for vtpm prep? it's a follow up and two small things that got split out during code review. dansmith has reviewed them https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/978836 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/983504 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/983505
15:18:56 gmaan stephenfin: done, saw from gerrit email
15:18:57 bauzas melwitt: not sure I'll have time, but I'll try
15:19:10 stephenfin gmaan++ ty 🙏
15:20:19 melwitt bauzas: ack thanks
15:21:05 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Use native IntOpt for tx_queue_size and rx_queue_size https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969014
15:32:27 gmaan melwitt: stephenfin sean-k-mooney gibi bauzas dansmith Uggla, As we were not able to discuss the 'standardization of service-to-service communication' topic in PTG, I am proposing it in gerrit, please check when you have time https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986590
15:32:48 gmaan I am not in hurry to merge it but would like to get a kind of team agreement on it
15:33:49 sean-k-mooney gmaan: ack. to soften my stand a bit. it may be ok to use the service_user section as a fall back ot create teh user token for requst made by nova on behalvf of a user. but it idally shoudl not be the only way
15:33:58 gmaan sean-k-mooney: I think it is aligned what you were suggesting but I am adding a fallback to service_user which you objected to use for service calling
15:34:17 gmaan sean-k-mooney: yeah
15:34:25 sean-k-mooney the reason im brinign that up is we know that cern and other have one nova that talks to neutron in 3 regions
15:34:52 sean-k-mooney so we can assume that all service a given compute host talks to are in the same region or use the same CA for tls ectra
15:35:24 sean-k-mooney so each service nova talsk to shoudl ahve its onw cofnig section with the common keystone auth optiosn in it
15:35:25 gmaan sean-k-mooney: and i ack your concern for devstack bug for mess up on configuring service users which I will take up as a separate things to solve, I can work on that when get time
15:35:35 sean-k-mooney and then and only then fallback to service_user
15:37:03 bauzas do people know that we have upstream bug triage discussion at the moment ?
15:37:12 bauzas I don't see Uggla telling about it
15:37:18 bauzas https://meet.google.com/fdz-phux-cnc
15:37:38 opendevreview Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/nova stable/2026.1: ironic: Abort build on fatal image validation errors https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986674
15:37:40 sean-k-mooney gmaan: by the way i mentioned this in the agentic coding irc channle. its entirly ok for proejct or teams to do one of ptg style meetign that are open for everyoen to join if they need high bandwith com like the midcycle. ill review your proposal when i have time but if we need oen we can poll the list for a time that works an do liek a 1 hour one off on this topic
15:38:15 gmaan ++
15:38:15 sean-k-mooney bauzas: oh ok vagely i can join in a mainly liste mode
15:38:24 sean-k-mooney im doint somethign else in parallel
15:38:29 gmaan let's see how feedback goes in gerrit and accordingly we can decide
15:38:55 gmaan ' agentic coding irc channle' can you link name, I can join it
15:40:23 sean-k-mooney #openstack-agentic-workflows
15:40:31 sean-k-mooney we need to get that added to ease drop
15:40:46 sean-k-mooney but that will happen once the tc vote happens on the governace repo
15:50:28 gmaan thanks
15:51:09 gmaan sean-k-mooney: Uggla bauzas as we spoke in bug triage meeting,. this is functional test for live migration cleanup things https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986477
16:11:06 cardoe So for cyborg+nova, nova is still making a KVM VM for example and attaching the accelerator to the VM?
16:13:55 sean-k-mooney cardoe: yes
16:14:16 sean-k-mooney cardoe: nova is entrily respocneble for the vm defintion and lifecyle management
16:14:23 cardoe okay cool. I wish the docs actually said that plainly on the intro page. :D
16:14:37 sean-k-mooney cardoe: cyborg just dose the inventory of the accelerator adn tells nova here is the pci adress
16:15:15 sean-k-mooney in the future cybrog may to other thing such as cleanign the device it manages for example
16:15:22 sean-k-mooney not firmware flashing
16:15:34 sean-k-mooney but secure rease of nvme ssds
16:15:43 sean-k-mooney that sort of thing
16:16:38 sean-k-mooney eventually its is hoped that cyborg woudl be able to mange other devices beyond pci like usb or cxl or block devices
16:16:52 sean-k-mooney nova woudl still need to eb able to add those to a vm
16:17:14 sean-k-mooney but that woudl be the limit of what nova woudl need to do and cybrog woudl do the enurmation and prepreation fo the device as requreid
16:17:42 sean-k-mooney at least that is the current split of responsiblitys, who knwo what ti will actully become
16:26:08 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional test for NUMA live migration overcommit bug https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/986693
17:23:24 melwitt aw man, microversion 2.98 (server show image props) in openstackclient and openstacksdk have still not happened 😭 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/940799 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/940798
17:53:38 sean-k-mooney i also have a ptch for server backup i need ot respin at some point
17:53:53 sean-k-mooney melwitt: server backup works exactly once

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