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#openstack-nova - 2025-11-17
16:29:14 Uggla #topic Open discussion
16:29:22 Uggla There is nothing on the agenda
16:29:46 Uggla Does someone want to talk about something ?
16:30:23 tkajinam I just want to quickly mention that I proposed a spec for firmware detection we discussed during ptg
16:30:35 tkajinam the link can be found in review priority etherpad
16:30:46 tkajinam https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/966584
16:30:51 tkajinam and appreciate any feedback :-)
16:31:10 Uggla tkajinam 👍
16:31:22 Uggla thanks for submitting it
16:31:52 tkajinam ;-)
16:33:14 Uggla #topic Bug scrubbing
16:33:19 Uggla #info up to 189
16:33:29 Uggla #link: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster
16:33:57 Uggla please add your nick to the roster if you'd like to participate the bug triage.
16:34:38 Uggla I will send an update / reminder to the list, and I'll try to assign the first bugs this week.
16:35:10 Uggla ATM we are 5 volunteers on the list.
16:35:30 Uggla I thinks that' all for today.
16:35:52 Uggla Last chance to share something.
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16:37:10 Uggla Thanks for joining this meeting. Have a nice day/evening.
16:37:17 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-11-17-16.04.txt
16:37:17 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-11-17-16.04.log.html
16:37:17 Uggla #endmeeting
16:37:17 opendevmeet Meeting ended Mon Nov 17 16:37:17 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:37:17 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-11-17-16.04.html
16:38:40 gibi Uggla: thanks
16:39:47 bauzas thanks Uggla
16:40:45 Uggla gibi, bauzas you are welcome
16:44:09 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Reproduce bug/2130881 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/966443
17:32:30 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: PoC: Graceful shutodwn of nova services https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967261
18:47:41 gibi fwiesesl
18:48:55 gibi fwiesel: I have a series for oslo.vmware to remove eventlet: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/oslo.vmware+topic:eventlet-removal but I have no way to test it. The last patch changing the timeout handling of image_transfer can be problematic so that needs extra care
19:01:55 sean-k-mooney gibi: doesnt the ci trigger automaticly on new patchs
19:02:20 sean-k-mooney gibi: given you have now enabeld threadign by default it hsoudl trigger on it no
19:02:25 sean-k-mooney ?
22:38:27 tonyb Are there folks around that can hellp me with some GPU Profile / Resource class questions?
23:14:35 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add RequestContext checks to functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/966499
23:17:04 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add RequestContext checks to functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/966499
#openstack-nova - 2025-11-18
01:32:18 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add RequestContext checks to functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/966499
01:32:18 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `user` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/942502
01:32:19 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `host` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/941795
01:32:19 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add vtpm_secret_(uuid|value) to LibvirtLiveMigrateData https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952628
01:32:20 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: bump service version and require it for live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/962051
01:32:20 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `host` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/941483
01:32:21 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `deployment` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/942021
01:32:22 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `deployment` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/925771
01:32:22 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: test live migration between hosts with different security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952629
01:32:24 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add late check for supported TPM secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/956975
01:32:24 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: opt-in to new TPM secret security via resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/962052
01:32:26 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add documentation and reno for live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/962889
01:32:26 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: DNM vtpm tempest https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/957477
02:46:03 melwitt bauzas: thanks for the reviews :) I have updated the bottom two patches you commented on
02:54:29 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add spec for Graceful shutodwn of nova services https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/967469
03:27:20 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: PoC: Graceful shutodwn of nova services https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967261
03:44:47 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add spec for Graceful shutodwn of nova services https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/967469
04:23:24 aravindh8murugesan :sean-k-mooney I'm passing an nVidia GPU to few of my VMs in passthrough mode. I have noticed for VM with GPU passthrough, openstack nova is not honoring the memory over commitment ratio? Is this expected. Do I need 1:1 memory for passthrough GPU devices?
04:25:54 aravindh8murugesan Maybe I should word it little clearly, nova does honor the overcommitment and scheduled the VM. So for example if my host has 128GB ram and provisioned VMs come out to about 140gb of RAM allocation, trying to boot up all the VMs at once, forces many of these vm to error state.
07:43:26 LarsErikP tobias-urdin: thanks. So, I think I read out of the short discussion that followed, that someone is now thinking about merging it? :P
08:08:46 nicolairuckel sean-k-mooney, I talked to some colleagues who also do operations. They said that it would probably be better if a patch for cold migration would be merged in the same cycle as the other operations that are currently in the NVRAM patch and they were afraid that this won't be possible if those are separate patches. They didn't see any issue with shelving in a separate patch. What do you think?
08:22:15 gibi sean-k-mooney: re vmware ci. No I don't see it triggering on oslo.vmware patches https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.vmware/+/967418
08:22:39 gibi but I can put up nova DNM with depends on to see if that helps
08:27:12 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: DNM:Test with oslo.vmware eventlet removal patches https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967487
08:27:19 gibi lets see ^^
11:16:06 opendevreview Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova master: Fix memory_details units in diagnostics API to match documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967505
11:49:48 opendevreview sean mooney proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Repropose and update cyborg vGPU (mdev) support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/967515
12:55:15 nelljerram Hi all. Could someone take a look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960284? It already has one +2 from Sean but would appreciate a second core review.
13:02:58 gibi nelljerram: have you managed to test this patch with calico succesfully?
13:03:57 gibi nelljerram: the patch looks good to me and it is low risk for us upstream as it only touches a very specific code path. So if it works for calico then I'm fine approving it
13:05:38 nelljerram gibi: Many thanks; I have tested that it works for Calico.
13:06:58 gibi cool. approved
13:07:03 gibi nelljerram: thanks for fixing it
13:07:19 nelljerram gibi: To add a bit more detail, we have a pretty extensive system test - unfortunately closed source at the moment - and it completely fails without this patch, but passes with it.
13:07:49 nelljerram gibi: when tested against Caracal or later, I mean
13:08:12 gibi nelljerram: OK. If you can eventually open up that test env then we would appreciate a 3rd party CI with Calico :)
13:08:25 gibi nelljerram: feel free to ping me with the backports when you propose them
13:10:27 nelljerram gibi: Thanks so much. I would indeed like to open up the testing, and will work towards also connecting that to OpenStack CI. But I expect that will take a little while, so please don't hold your breath for it!
13:11:28 nelljerram gibi: Do I wait until the change is merged to master, before proposing the backports?
13:13:17 gibi I think you can start backporting with `git cherry-pick -x ` It is unlikely that the hash of the commit will change now. But if it does then you just respin the backport to point to the final hash.
13:13:59 gibi nelljerram: no worries I'm not holding breath. :) But I'm happy to see that there is motivated folks trying to open it up
13:24:09 sean-k-mooney gibi: nelljerram the funny thing is we are likely going to end up using managed=no
13:24:19 sean-k-mooney for ovs as well in the future or at least with ovn
13:24:39 sean-k-mooney but before we do that we need to change os-vif to support creating the tap
13:25:25 sean-k-mooney also we chagne form interface=bridge to interface=ethernet precincely because it did not delete the tap
13:25:32 sean-k-mooney so thet libvirt behavior change regressed that again
13:25:42 sean-k-mooney well not quite we didi dit for the ovs prot defintion
13:25:58 sean-k-mooney so im remmeber that wrong but its a similr effect
13:26:32 sean-k-mooney it cause our pre-plugging of the neutron port in pre-livemigrate to be less effective
13:27:22 sean-k-mooney gibi: oh i ment patches to nova
13:27:29 sean-k-mooney gibi: for the vmware changes
13:27:47 sean-k-mooney gibi: do you also need to update oslo.vmware for the eventlet removal
13:28:19 sean-k-mooney libs in general are not ment ot use eventlet directly but i guess they were for some api requests?
13:32:44 nelljerram sean-k-mooney: interesting, thanks. I guess that will also be strong motivation for hooking up some Calico CI.
13:33:56 sean-k-mooney we likely wont be modifying the vif_type=tap code paths but we will be setting the xml atibute form more places
13:34:24 sean-k-mooney we basiclly need neutron to tell us to do it in the vif_details and as i said extened os-vif to be able to create the tap device
13:34:37 nelljerram sean-k-mooney: fwiw I am also currently working on pre-livemigrate for Calico. Currently we ignore that and just flip the port over when migration completes - which is not very seamless :-)
13:34:40 sean-k-mooney im not actully sure how to do that exactly but apprently its a thing we can do
13:35:02 sean-k-mooney nelljerram: ah cool good to know
13:35:28 sean-k-mooney for what its worht we have several jobs that do live migrationin the ci today on nova

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