| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2025-07-01 | |||
| 16:58:38 | sean-k-mooney | and continuing to review | |
| 16:59:16 | dansmith | idk | |
| 16:59:53 | Uggla | :+1 for me it looks an interesting weigher. | |
| 17:00:20 | Uggla | gibi, ok for you ? | |
| 17:00:24 | gibi | I'm fine | |
| 17:00:46 | sean-k-mooney | i dont nessiarly have an objection just note that if there are lazy loadign issues they will need to be resolved ebfore we can merge it | |
| 17:00:56 | dansmith | same | |
| 17:00:58 | sean-k-mooney | so it might not be ready before FF | |
| 17:01:17 | sean-k-mooney | but im ok to move to the review and take a look a ci logs ectra | |
| 17:01:30 | Uggla | jonnyb is that ok for you ? | |
| 17:01:35 | jonnyb | thats fine with me, i wasnt aware that lazy loading could be an issue. but good point | |
| 17:02:04 | sean-k-mooney | you defaulted to 1.0 so in theroy its enabled by default | |
| 17:02:15 | sean-k-mooney | so we should b eable to look at any of the current ci logs | |
| 17:02:28 | Uggla | ok last topic: | |
| 17:02:28 | Uggla | #topic (gibi) Workaround for cpython3.13 GC bug needs review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952966 | |
| 17:02:36 | dansmith | oh, definitely seems like it should be disabled by default | |
| 17:02:53 | dansmith | that's merged? | |
| 17:03:05 | sean-k-mooney | well we can defintly change that. in the review and ya the gc thing is merged | |
| 17:03:26 | gibi | yepp it is merged | |
| 17:03:29 | Uggla | dansmith yes it seems | |
| 17:03:48 | gibi | I proposed the backport to Epoxy as I know debian want it there | |
| 17:04:23 | gibi | (the cpython bug fixing effort is progressing in the background) | |
| 17:05:14 | gibi | so other than the backport there is nothing else left here | |
| 17:05:18 | gibi | we can move on | |
| 17:05:41 | sean-k-mooney | jonnyb: so without diging deeply https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/8a9b0a0404034a79a95621b18e16534b/log/controller/logs/screen-n-sch.txt#1017 you schduler was enabeld and i dont see lazy loadign but we need to look at that properly after the meeting | |
| 17:05:44 | Uggla | ok cardoe, wants to discuss about a patch | |
| 17:06:03 | Uggla | cardoe please go ahead, and then we will close. | |
| 17:06:07 | cardoe | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/471815 | |
| 17:06:36 | cardoe | It is a proposed spec change to add trunk ports with their vlan tags to the network_data.json | |
| 17:06:47 | sean-k-mooney | ya im +2 on that gibi is +1 because they wont have review bandwith i belvie | |
| 17:07:04 | gibi | I'm +2-1=+1 signalling review bandwidth yes | |
| 17:07:16 | cardoe | It's something written originally by someone not involved in the effort currently. | |
| 17:07:23 | cardoe | But neutron supports defining ports like that. | |
| 17:07:55 | cardoe | There have been a few patches floating around from different operators that are using that functionality as a downstream patch. | |
| 17:07:56 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: jonnyb: agree, I see the weigher being weighed and no lazy loads in that log, so seems fine | |
| 17:08:06 | gibi | having +1 from rubasov (Bence) is a good sign, he was involved in the original work of trunk | |
| 17:08:15 | cardoe | I've been working to consolidate the downstream operators around a single implementation and wanting to get it upstreamed. | |
| 17:08:20 | sean-k-mooney | yep | |
| 17:08:48 | cardoe | We've got temptest tests written and an implementation. | |
| 17:08:52 | sean-k-mooney | there is code for noav and tempest test too | |
| 17:09:04 | sean-k-mooney | ya https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp/expose-vlan-trunking%22 | |
| 17:09:20 | sean-k-mooney | this is useful for both vms adn for ironic | |
| 17:09:24 | cardoe | This is just part of my TC work to try and get downstream operators to push back to the community. | |
| 17:10:29 | sean-k-mooney | so the requwst is bascily for another core to sponsor/review this before spec freeze on thruday | |
| 17:10:57 | sean-k-mooney | and then to review the actul pactchs before m3 | |
| 17:11:54 | sean-k-mooney | the one thing i will say is i think we only have turnks in one job | |
| 17:12:12 | sean-k-mooney | so we will need to confirm that this si properly tested in our ci and that that job passes | |
| 17:13:07 | sean-k-mooney | the logs have rotated and the one nova patch that is requried https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/941227 is in merge conflict if i ty an rebase | |
| 17:13:17 | cardoe | I'll work to get folks to update things based on feedback. | |
| 17:13:25 | sean-k-mooney | oh its just missign isnged off by | |
| 17:14:50 | Uggla | cardoe something else you want to ask ? | |
| 17:15:16 | cardoe | No my only question is how can I get this on the roadmap | |
| 17:18:12 | Uggla | We are overtime, so we should close. | |
| 17:18:19 | Uggla | Thanks all | |
| 17:18:25 | Uggla | #endmeeting | |
| 17:18:25 | opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Jul 1 17:18:25 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | |
| 17:18:25 | opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-07-01-16.00.html | |
| 17:18:25 | opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-07-01-16.00.txt | |
| 17:18:25 | opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-07-01-16.00.log.html | |
| 17:21:53 | sean-k-mooney | cardoe: if we cant proceed with it this cycle i woudl say its still wroth rebaseign for next cycle | |
| 17:22:03 | sean-k-mooney | over all i think geting this in to upstream is a good thing | |
| 17:22:38 | sean-k-mooney | and we shoud encurrage upstream operator change like this when they are in scope of nova ot address | |
| 17:23:18 | Uggla | sean-k-mooney, if you have a min, what do you think of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2115116 to my mind it is out of our scope but I'd like your feelings. | |
| 17:24:02 | sean-k-mooney | so i have been kind fo frustrated with some of the install guid work that has been sumited lately | |
| 17:24:11 | cardoe | It's this constant catch-22. The core teams have their own workloads and aren't there to respond to the whims of the operators. So the operators need to contribute more from a review standpoint. But then the operators are all counting spend and wanting to equate their return on investment. | |
| 17:25:27 | sean-k-mooney | Uggla: i see where they are coming form but personlly i dont think the mysql info should be in the install guide either | |
| 17:25:52 | gibi | the core team are basically employed by a company which is also counting profit, so operators could do the same, i.e. paying contributors to become cores | |
| 17:25:54 | sean-k-mooney | beyound a very high level over view of how to use teh config option ectra | |
| 17:26:23 | Uggla | sean-k-mooney, btw there is so many ways to install it. | |
| 17:26:44 | sean-k-mooney | Uggla: i personaly woudl mark it opipion | |
| 17:27:13 | sean-k-mooney | its not invalid i just think we would be better limiting the scope of the doc | |
| 17:28:31 | sean-k-mooney | we do not incldue it in the ubuntu ones either for what its worht | |
| 17:28:37 | sean-k-mooney | so it not a disto specific gap | |
| 17:28:50 | sean-k-mooney | we just doing docuemtn how to install rabbit in the nvoa guide | |
| 17:29:09 | sean-k-mooney | we tell you to configure the transport url transport_url = rabbit://openstack:RABBIT_PASS@controller:5672/ | |
| 17:29:14 | sean-k-mooney | but that is reaonable | |
| 17:29:52 | sean-k-mooney | we coudl add a note to the prequistit section to say that rabbit must be installed adn aviable | |
| 17:29:58 | sean-k-mooney | but i would not say how to do that | |
| 17:31:33 | Uggla | ok I will try to answer in this way tomorrow morning. | |
| 17:32:26 | sean-k-mooney | so i mentioned im furstrated, there has been a number of new contiubotrs filing lots of small bugs for the install guide and submiting pathce for them | |
| 17:32:45 | sean-k-mooney | whil that is not a bad thign persay there has been no dicussion or cordiantion about this effort in genral | |
| 17:33:07 | sean-k-mooney | so it kind of feels lke some owne said to a bunch of interns ehre is a good way to do a first patch | |
| 17:33:17 | sean-k-mooney | but didnt actully talk to use about it first | |
| 17:33:33 | sean-k-mooney | im exagreating a bit | |
| 17:34:47 | sean-k-mooney | but that sort of how it feels, a buch of lower pririty bugs were created and folks are fixign them but no dicsussion of do we have time to review it | |
| 17:37:10 | Uggla | ok but in this case there is no patch attached too. Or I miss something. | |
| 17:38:00 | sean-k-mooney | no i just went out of my way to do some reviews in this area a while ago and sort of got burt out on it | |
| 17:39:05 | Uggla | ok | |
| 17:39:19 | sean-k-mooney | im fine with fixing the docs in general and if they want to add a patch to add it as a preqeusit for all distos then ok but i dont wnat to need to keep updating how to install rabbit if we can avoid it | |
| 17:40:56 | sean-k-mooney | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/938702 | |
| 17:41:32 | sean-k-mooney | so there is a patch for it a diffent bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2091585 | |
| 17:41:45 | sean-k-mooney | so we proably shoudl clsoe the new one as a duplicate of that one | |
| 17:42:44 | sean-k-mooney | ill just do that now if there is no objetion we do not need two bugs for that | |
| 17:44:20 | sean-k-mooney | there is apprenly a commen guide that covers the install we can just link too https://docs.openstack.org/install-guide/environment-messaging-rdo.html | |
| 17:44:53 | sean-k-mooney | there is a ubuntu version too https://docs.openstack.org/install-guide/environment-messaging-ubuntu.html | |
| 21:55:56 | mikal | At least the ceph CI error has changed this morning? | |
| 21:55:56 | mikal | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | |
| 21:55:56 | mikal | qemu-block-extra : Depends: qemu-system-any (= 1:8.2.2+ds-0ubuntu1.7) or | |
| 21:55:56 | mikal | qemu-utils (= 1:8.2.2+ds-0ubuntu1.7) but 1:8.2.2+ds-0ubuntu1.8 is to be installed | |
| 21:55:56 | mikal | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | |