| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2025-07-01 | |||
| 16:01:41 | bauzas | o/ | |
| 16:01:52 | bauzas | (I'll need to leave a bit early, like 15 mins before the end) | |
| 16:02:21 | masahito | o/ | |
| 16:02:46 | Uggla | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | |
| 16:02:53 | Uggla | #info No Critical bug | |
| 16:03:10 | Uggla | #topic Gate status | |
| 16:03:23 | Uggla | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | |
| 16:03:31 | Uggla | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal | |
| 16:03:37 | Uggla | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | |
| 16:03:45 | Uggla | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | |
| 16:03:51 | Uggla | #info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck | |
| 16:04:18 | Uggla | #topic tempest-with-latest-microversion job status | |
| 16:04:26 | Uggla | #link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=tempest-with-latest-microversion&skip=0 | |
| 16:04:39 | Uggla | gmaan, something you'd like to tell us ? | |
| 16:04:39 | fwiesel | o/ | |
| 16:05:45 | Uggla | not sut gmaan is available today, so I'm gonna move on. | |
| 16:06:01 | Uggla | #topic Release Planning | |
| 16:06:15 | Uggla | #link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html | |
| 16:06:22 | Uggla | #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule | |
| 16:06:29 | Uggla | #info Nova spec freeze is Thursday. | |
| 16:06:56 | Uggla | ⚠️ ^ | |
| 16:08:21 | Uggla | FYI, I have discussed with masahito about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/951636 and if he will be able to submit an update. So it will give us a chance to approve this one. | |
| 16:08:30 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Correct expected errors https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/951640 | |
| 16:08:49 | Uggla | #topic Review priorities | |
| 16:08:58 | masahito | yup. let me focus on updating my specs tomorrow. | |
| 16:09:09 | Uggla | masahito 👍 | |
| 16:09:16 | Uggla | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.2-status | |
| 16:10:25 | Uggla | I have updated the doc and updated launchpad accordingly. So blueprints, SL blueprints should be all in the correct status. | |
| 16:10:47 | Uggla | If you see something wrong in the doc, please let me know. | |
| 16:11:22 | Uggla | #topic OpenAPI | |
| 16:11:30 | Uggla | #link: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22openapi%22+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+-status:merged+-status:abandoned | |
| 16:11:36 | Uggla | #info 19 decrease -6. \o/ | |
| 16:12:14 | Uggla | elodilles is not available so I'll skip the stable branch topic. | |
| 16:12:33 | Uggla | #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights | |
| 16:12:41 | Uggla | fwiesel do you have something to share ? | |
| 16:14:34 | Uggla | fwiesel ? | |
| 16:14:37 | fwiesel | Uggla: No, nothing from my side | |
| 16:14:49 | Uggla | fwiesel ok thx | |
| 16:14:56 | Uggla | #topic Gibi's news about eventlet removal. | |
| 16:15:05 | Uggla | #link Blog: https://gibizer.github.io/categories/eventlet/ | |
| 16:15:14 | Uggla | #link nova-scheduler series is ready for core review, starting at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/947966 | |
| 16:15:14 | gibi | o/ | |
| 16:15:19 | Uggla | gibi the mic is yours | |
| 16:15:32 | gibi | so the scatter gather refactor patch has been landed | |
| 16:15:37 | gibi | thanks for the reviews | |
| 16:15:40 | Uggla | \o/ | |
| 16:16:01 | gibi | the next two patches are also approved but the gate was / is pretty flaky in the recent days so they are not landed yet | |
| 16:16:12 | gibi | (hybrid-plug and ceph issuees) | |
| 16:16:47 | gibi | I fixed the comments form bauzas on the next patch in the series about a possible race condition. Please take a look | |
| 16:17:09 | gibi | On the top of the series I started an effor to run unit tests without eventlet | |
| 16:17:29 | gibi | the effort starts here https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953436/5 | |
| 16:18:07 | gibi | couple of patches later in that series we have a job that runs most of our unit tests without monkey patching and with threading oslo.service and oslo.messaging backend | |
| 16:18:19 | gibi | there is a list of excluded test I have to work through | |
| 16:18:57 | gibi | I'm tracking to type of problems. Sqlaclhemy nonsense errors and simple test case hangs | |
| 16:19:04 | gibi | s/to/two/ | |
| 16:19:15 | gibi | you can see them noted in the test exclude list | |
| 16:19:37 | gibi | I think we can make the new zuul job voting pretty soon | |
| 16:19:45 | gibi | (while keeping some excludes) | |
| 16:20:23 | gibi | that is it from me | |
| 16:20:51 | sean-k-mooney | o/ sorry had this behind anohter window | |
| 16:21:48 | Uggla | gibi do you have some kind of "urgent" review anymore ? | |
| 16:22:01 | bauzas | I'll continue to review the series for sure | |
| 16:22:25 | gibi | Uggla: the bottom of the series is as urgent as the eventlet removal :) | |
| 16:22:51 | gibi | bauzas: hanks | |
| 16:22:54 | gibi | thanks | |
| 16:24:23 | gibi | I think we can move on :) | |
| 16:24:30 | Uggla | BTW we have Nova Eventlet removal sync tomorrow too. | |
| 16:25:11 | Uggla | 14:30 UTC | |
| 16:25:12 | gibi | yepp we have the call | |
| 16:25:14 | gibi | as planned | |
| 16:25:32 | Uggla | thanks gibi, next topic | |
| 16:25:39 | Uggla | #topic Open discussion | |
| 16:25:47 | Uggla | #topic (fwiesel) Evacuate Action & InstanceInvalidState | |
| 16:26:20 | Uggla | fwiesel please go ahead. | |
| 16:26:28 | fwiesel | So, we are currently looking into doing HA by using the evacuate action on instances, and were running into various states, where it was not possible. | |
| 16:27:00 | fwiesel | From our side, evacuation usually happens when the host is down so can happen at any time. | |
| 16:27:39 | fwiesel | And I was wondering, if it wouldn't make sense to adjust the code so it can evacuate an instance in as many sitations as possible. | |
| 16:28:47 | fwiesel | So, raising an InstanceInvalidState is merely a reflection of what has been implemented. What do you say? | |
| 16:29:44 | gibi | do you have specific examples of states you want to evacuate from? | |
| 16:29:48 | cardoe | So I'll say internally we've got extra stuff which we don't see nova ever being able to handle. | |
| 16:29:59 | cardoe | Like even human involved state | |
| 16:30:37 | fwiesel | Let me think. For starters: Verify-Resize. | |
| 16:31:13 | fwiesel | But let's say, we have a live-migration, and that host falls down. I still would like to do a failover | |
| 16:31:57 | gibi | verify-resize: so while you could evacuate from that state you also need to implement a proper cleanup in the nova-compute coming up in the source node of the original resize | |
| 16:32:00 | sean-k-mooney | so evacuate requires you the admin | |
| 16:32:11 | sean-k-mooney | to assert that the vm is not running on any host | |
| 16:32:31 | sean-k-mooney | so allowing it in verify resize and othe rstates is questionable | |
| 16:32:52 | sean-k-mooney | espically since in that state your in the middle of an ongoing migration | |
| 16:32:55 | cardoe | Yeah there's a lot of squirrely cases there which need to be monitored for. | |
| 16:33:07 | sean-k-mooney | and the flavor that is in use is kind of ill defiend | |
| 16:33:47 | sean-k-mooney | its technialy the new one in a real reaise but it has nto beeen confirm so you woudl want ot evacuate to the old one, but hte numa toplogy and ohter things are all in a weird hybrid state | |
| 16:34:28 | sean-k-mooney | what you likely should be able to do is revert the resize in verify-resize | |
| 16:34:29 | gibi | so in general it would be nice to support these but in practic it seems like a bunch of cans of worms | |
| 16:34:37 | sean-k-mooney | even if the dest host is down | |
| 16:34:41 | sean-k-mooney | then evacuate it | |
| 16:34:43 | sean-k-mooney | if needed | |
| 16:35:13 | cardoe | We've got a whole thing out of band that's specific to the hypervisor in use for these items. | |
| 16:35:31 | gibi | yeah allowing revert-resize in souce host down is one way, even though a weird one. Who wants to revert a resize that will lead to the VM runing nowhere :) | |
| 16:35:33 | fwiesel | But technically, an evacuate is practically a rebuild. So, I can start from "scratch" (nova wise) | |
| 16:35:54 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: well it would revert reisze when dest down and conrim resize when source down | |