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#openstack-nova - 2025-06-29
19:00:29 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Add project manager role in Nova API policy rule https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/941347
19:38:18 opendevreview Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Add objects and notifications for sound model. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/926126
19:38:19 opendevreview Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Implement sound model extra spec for libvirt. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/940770
19:38:19 opendevreview Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Add objects and notifications for USB controller model. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/927354
19:38:20 opendevreview Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Implement USB controller extra spec for libvirt. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/950643
20:05:30 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow list migrations policy to manager role https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/953722
21:24:51 opendevreview Merged openstack/os-vif master: Zuul: do not use USE_PYTHON3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/953510
#openstack-nova - 2025-06-30
03:24:00 gmaan sean-k-mooney: stephenfin: while adding tempest tests for migrations by project manager, I realized that we need one list migrations API (list all migrations not just in-progress live migrations) to allow for manager. I a m amending it in spec, ptal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/953722
08:37:50 opendevreview Thomas Goirand proposed openstack/nova master: Add a [libvirt]/force_virtio_cd option https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953732
08:40:18 opendevreview Thomas Goirand proposed openstack/nova master: Add a [libvirt]/force_virtio_cd option https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953732
08:41:05 zigo Does the above patch makes sense, and does the team understand my motivation as an operator?
08:41:56 opendevreview Thomas Goirand proposed openstack/nova master: Add a [libvirt]/force_virtio_cd option https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953732
09:49:40 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/2025.1: Fix neutron client dict grabbing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953737
10:07:45 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2024.1: Add repoducer test for bug 2074219 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953656
10:59:09 sahid o/
10:59:24 sahid I'm still stuck finding information regarding live migration that are failing
10:59:37 sahid it's weird that we don't log anything
11:00:14 sahid the ;igration list --server xx show that status is in error but don't explain what the error is
11:03:10 sean-k-mooney you shoudl check the source compute node for logs
11:03:21 sean-k-mooney or conductor in some cases
11:06:03 sahid hum I did not tried on conductor... on source the only error I have is Live Migration failure: 'fa:....'
11:06:22 sahid Migration operation has aborted
11:06:39 sean-k-mooney aborted is not the same as failing. that likely just hit the timeout
11:09:30 sahid sean-k-mooney: I think the Live Migration failure failure is comming frist from libvirt driver
11:09:39 sahid then the exception is propagaded
11:10:22 sean-k-mooney it can if it failed on the migrate step
11:10:39 sahid let me see if I find from where is comming the message Migration operation has aborted
11:14:19 sahid the event is mentionning, compute_rollback_live_migration_at_destination and there is no log at destination
11:14:33 sahid we are missing to log some important details
11:23:51 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2024.1: Fix detaching devices by alias with mdevs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953662
11:24:29 sean-k-mooney just an fyi i repliekd to mikal email just now, neutron broken debian 12 support with https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/8990dd598f84b9da976d72672c6fd6037fc0d125 it seams so the nova hybrid plug job is broken until they fix the coalaiton type
11:55:09 opendevreview Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Use futurist for _get_default_green_pool() https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948072
11:55:09 opendevreview Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Replace utils.spawn_n with spawn https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948076
11:55:10 opendevreview Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Add spawn_on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948079
11:55:10 opendevreview Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Move ComputeManager to use spawn_on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948186
11:55:11 opendevreview Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/nova master: Replace eventlet.event.Event with threading.Event https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/949754
12:47:23 fungi [repeating myself from yesterday, sorry] it's come up a few times in debian over recent years that other cloud platforms don't rely on ahci driver access for cdrom devices, and so their minimal "cloud" linux kernel config doesn't include support for it, which means users have to manually override to virtio to make configdrive work with debian's official "genericcloud" images.
12:47:25 fungi is there a reason not to switch the default in nova to virtio, as suggested in https://bugs.debian.org/1108403 ? (i see zigo just pushed change 953732 for this too)
12:48:33 zigo I didn't push for this, because I was fearing it would be too much of an aggressive change, but I'd basically agree with fungi that it'd be nice to have virtio by default.
12:49:52 opendevreview Thomas Goirand proposed openstack/nova master: Add a [libvirt]/force_virtio_cd option https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953732
12:50:39 zigo fungi: Thanks for spotting the typo btw! :)
12:50:39 zigo My patch looks like passing the CI, it just had a POST_FAILURE for nova-ovs-hybrid-plug.
12:53:12 fungi it's also obvious to us, but perhaps not to the debian kernel maintainers, that nova changing its default now will only slowly trickle down to public cloud providers, as there are some still running their services on decade-old versions of openstack
12:54:06 zigo I just believe that Waldi only cares about his customer in this case (ie: Microsoft and Azure) that's not impacted by the missing AHCI driver.
12:54:22 zigo IMO, it's a conflict of interest case.
12:55:05 zigo Never the less, virtio-cd is much nicer than ide...
12:59:32 sean-k-mooney fungi: so we use sata by default when using q35 machine type or ide for pc
12:59:54 sean-k-mooney fungi: we cant use virtio-scis because of window window si belive
13:00:16 sean-k-mooney so we dont really have an alternitive choice
13:02:03 sean-k-mooney zigo: we only use ide for the pc machien type if you defautl to q35 we use sata as i noted above, virtio-cd either iddnt exist or was not a option when we last chagned the defautl 4+ years ago
13:02:27 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Use built-in declarative https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953751
13:02:42 sean-k-mooney we coudl consider if that is now viablebased on our min libvirt version although we may need to restrict that to only linux machine unless windows ships with it by default
13:03:01 zigo sean-k-mooney: Oh, so activating the feature I'm proposing would break windows setup, right?
13:03:17 sean-k-mooney maybe we dont supprot virtio-cd at all
13:03:49 sean-k-mooney so we woudl first need to supprot that and deterim if it can be the default or contintioal default absed on OS_TYPE on the galnce image
13:04:12 sean-k-mooney im late for a meeting but ill be free in an hour and can look into this more
13:04:47 zigo We do, it just need a specific metadata.
13:05:18 zigo As much as my colleague is telling me, this would *not* break our windows image that has the virtio CD support.
13:05:38 zigo the metadata is:
13:05:38 zigo hw_cdrom_bus=virtio
13:05:39 sean-k-mooney will it break a vanilla windows install iso
13:05:47 sean-k-mooney zigo: so you can set that
13:05:55 zigo *we* wouldn't care.
13:05:56 sean-k-mooney but there used to be problems with useing it
13:06:03 sean-k-mooney well nova would
13:06:39 zigo sean-k-mooney: Yeah, *we* can, but some idiot customers have no idea about it, will take system image snapshot or backup, attempt to boot, and see it fail because of the CD being ide and the lack of AHCI support in the image.
13:06:45 zigo I'd like to avoid this ...
13:07:37 sean-k-mooney so we really try to not make things dynmaic based on the image in a lot of cases but its worth a dicussion at least
13:07:47 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: sqlalchemy: Use built-in declarative https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953751
13:07:57 sean-k-mooney zigo: i know there was a reason we could not use virtio as the default at the time
13:08:02 sean-k-mooney but i dont recall the details
13:08:10 sean-k-mooney it may have been our min libnvirt versin at the time
13:09:35 sean-k-mooney zigo: i assume you woudl prefer that we use virio by default both for pc and q35 machine type?
13:12:15 sean-k-mooney zigo: the last time we chagne defautl was yoga https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/virtio-as-default-display-device
13:12:24 sean-k-mooney so we have precendet for doing this
13:13:29 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/placement master: sqlalchemy: Use built-in declarative https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/953759
13:54:29 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: gibi: ralonsoh: I assume you're aware that nova-ovs-hybrid-plug is permafailing on master since last Friday? https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=nova-ovs-hybrid-plug&project=openstack/nova
13:54:46 ralonsoh let me check
13:55:08 stephenfin I took a look at things that merged to neutron and neutron-lib between the last pass and first fail but didn't spot anything obvious
13:55:38 stephenfin ralonsoh: neutron-api is failing because there's a name field being set on a model that doesn't have the relevant column
13:56:00 stephenfin https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/79bd7dae1b954169a77159ca53b85422/log/controller/logs/screen-neutron-api.txt
13:56:34 stephenfin (specifically the networksegments table as you'll se)
13:56:35 stephenfin *see
13:56:49 ralonsoh let me check first the last patches merged
14:02:06 ralonsoh stephenfin, this is because a stupid guy merged a patch last friday
14:02:15 ralonsoh a very stupid guy and a very stupid patch
14:02:20 gibi sean-k-mooney: dansmith: could you add the back the +A to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948072/ it was lost in a rebase
14:03:08 dansmith done
14:03:19 ralonsoh stephenfin, I've pushed the fix: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/953768. Check that the Neutron db migration is failing: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/46c6d08486c3461dbc6f3fcb3c2b832d/log/job-output.txt#13491
14:03:24 stephenfin ralonsoh: :D
14:03:26 gibi dansmith: thanks
14:04:27 stephenfin ahh
14:04:35 stephenfin I was looking in the wrong place
14:05:18 stephenfin ralonsoh: Looks like a bug in devstack too. init_neutron shouldn't be finishing with result 0 if the db_sync failed, right? https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/46c6d08486c3461dbc6f3fcb3c2b832d/log/job-output.txt#13509
14:05:40 ralonsoh right, that should have been stopped the stack process
14:09:50 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Enable memfd support for shared memory backing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/951689
14:11:45 Uggla sean-k-mooney, gibi, dansmith if you have time I'll be happy it you can have a look at ^
14:41:26 zigo sean-k-mooney: I'd prefer if it was virtio-cd *always*, yes.
14:41:50 sean-k-mooney so if we were to make that change it would only take effect for new vms
14:42:15 zigo Yeah, I get that point.

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