Posted	Nick	Remark
#openstack-nova - 2025-04-01
16:14:28	Uggla	#info Nova Flamingo deadlines will be discussed at the PTG.
16:15:19	Uggla	Epoxy should be released tomorrow if I'm not wrong.
16:15:27	Uggla	\o/
16:15:37	elodilles	~o~
16:15:41	gibi	nice
16:16:13	elodilles	yepp, we start the machinery tomorrow
16:16:32	Uggla	btw @elodilles I have +1 the patch above.
16:16:45	elodilles	thanks Uggla o/
16:18:01	Uggla	#topic Review priorities
16:18:13	Uggla	#info Flamingo priorities will be discussed at the PTG.
16:18:45	Uggla	#topic PTG planning
16:18:53	Uggla	#info Next PTG will be held on Apr 7-11
16:19:14	Uggla	#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.2-ptg
16:19:55	Uggla	I think we have collected all the topics, the agenda is draft for the moment. I think I will finalize it tomorrow.
16:20:38	Uggla	Today, there's a new and rather unexpected topic on the table for the PTG.
16:20:45	Uggla	Rumor has it that it originates from a secret TC meeting focused on improving our resilience against supply chain attacks.
16:20:52	dansmith	Uggla: the glance ptl was just pinging me about a session with glance about location api and a couple other things
16:20:59	Uggla	As a result, we have a new top priority for the next development cycle — replacing the eventlet removal initiative.
16:21:17	Uggla	It has been officially decided to begin rewriting Nova, starting with the scheduler component, in Brainfuck (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck).
16:21:26	Uggla	The minimalist nature of the language, combined with its near-total unreadability, provides an unparalleled level of protection against malicious code injections.
16:21:32	Uggla	A working PoC is already available here: https://www.jdoodle.com/ia/1FbD
16:22:03	Uggla	Yep, @dansmith he contacted me for a new cross team meeting.
16:22:19	dansmith	okay good
16:22:30	dansmith	I put it on the etherpad at the bottom
16:23:16	gibi	Btw, will we have a full nova PTG day on Monday to front load stuff while we have?
16:23:50	Uggla	yes we have booked the full week Monday to Friday
16:24:10	gibi	ack
16:24:33	Uggla	I'll try to clarify the full agenda by tomorrow.
16:25:06	Uggla	Monday we may start later and cover only the retro.
16:25:31	bauzas	hmmm, April gotcha
16:25:43	Uggla	We have a question from mikal
16:25:49	opendevreview	sean mooney proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add bindep.txt for ubunutu 24.04 support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/946031
16:25:56	Uggla	mikal: Sean suggested on IRC at https://meetings.opendev.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/latest.log.html#t2025-03-25T19:01:27 that a "specless blueprint" might be sufficient to finish off the SPICE VDI work. I've therefore created https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-spice-vdi, but wont be able to attend the meeting due to timezones. Could y'all discuss and decide if I need to propose something for the PTG / require a spec / or if this
16:25:57	Uggla	is sufficient to finish off this work? Thanks!
16:26:50	sean-k-mooney	ya so basicaly we did approve the usb and sound device changes as part of spice direct
16:26:58	sean-k-mooney	but we didnt have time to land it
16:27:30	sean-k-mooney	so since the code is written if there are no objections i was suggeting proceed with a specless blueprint unless peole had design concerns
16:27:39	gibi	if there are no changes compared to the approved spec then I'm fine with it
16:27:41	sean-k-mooney	mikal said they can attend part of the ptg
16:27:59	sean-k-mooney	so we could cover it a the start of one fo the sessions fi needed
16:28:35	Uggla	sean-k-mooney, it is unclear in the message he said he won't be able to attend.
16:28:58	sean-k-mooney	i htink they can atted if its first thign but it will be midnight for them
16:29:12	sean-k-mooney	so if we can handel this async over eamil or approve and just move to gerrit
16:29:18	sean-k-mooney	it will work a lot better for them
16:29:25	bauzas	last time, he was able to join on a late evening for him
16:29:37	bauzas	but we need to give him a specific time
16:29:58	bauzas	like Friday 1pm if that works for him
16:30:39	sean-k-mooney	so do we want to defer approving https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-spice-vdi until we chat with them in the ptg?
16:30:52	sean-k-mooney	ill note that while that has spice in the name
16:30:55	gibi	I have nothing against approving it
16:30:56	sean-k-mooney	this applie to vnc also
16:31:02	Uggla	yep I will set it as early as possible. sean-k-mooney are you ok to discuss this topic if Mikal won't join
16:31:15	sean-k-mooney	sure
16:31:30	Uggla	cool
16:32:22	Uggla	any concerns about the specless BP for Mikal ?
16:32:52	sean-k-mooney	ill note that we only need a ptg session fi we have open design questons.
16:33:24	bauzas	I don't have any concerns
16:33:43	Uggla	so i guess we can go for it.
16:34:11	gibi	go for it
16:34:23	Uggla	sean-k-mooney, I will set the topic for the agenda, maybe it will be quick if it is crystal clear.
16:34:40	sean-k-mooney	ack
16:35:00	Uggla	something else you want to discuss for the PTG prep ?
16:35:47	sean-k-mooney	am just an fyi im double booked with watcher
16:36:00	sean-k-mooney	so ill attend where i can
16:36:12	sean-k-mooney	ping if im not there and you would like my input
16:36:21	sean-k-mooney	i tried to leave comment in the doc already
16:36:29	Uggla	sean-k-mooney, ok sure thx.
16:36:44	Uggla	I close this topic by saying we will not have this meeting next week due to the vPTG.
16:36:56	Uggla	#topic Stable Branches
16:36:57	masahito	i'm not sure i mentioned it before. if my topic is selected for the ptg topics, i prefer 14utc or later.
16:37:23	Uggla	masahito, yes, this is somewhere in my mind.
16:37:30	masahito	thanks.
16:37:35	Uggla	#info stable/2024.* gates broken with nova-ceph-multistore job failure (test case test_volume_upload fails - No image found with ID...)
16:37:41	Uggla	#info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci
16:38:08	Uggla	elodilles, the floor is yours
16:38:16	elodilles	yeah, i couldn't identify the root cause yet for that job failure yet ^^^ :(
16:38:42	elodilles	so if anyone has any idea, it is appreciated o:)
16:39:24	elodilles	stable/2023.2 gate is fine, and afaik stable/2025.1, too, but not 100% on that
16:39:57	elodilles	and that is all i can say now
16:41:14	sean-k-mooney	the iso patch has been rechecked again...
16:41:22	sean-k-mooney	still hiting that volume bug
16:41:37	sean-k-mooney	i havent looked at it yet either ill admit
16:42:10	sean-k-mooney	i assume cinder of glance shoudl be seeing the same failure?
16:42:48	gmann	I think I saw it on stable/2025.1 also (have not checked if it is same or different?) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/945239/comments/231d655b_52020b94
16:43:46	sean-k-mooney	that still the nova job
16:44:00	sean-k-mooney	i was hopign that was a non nova one showing the same issue
16:44:30	elodilles	gmann: looks like same
16:44:53	Uggla	looks the same yes.
16:45:09	sean-k-mooney	dansmith: do you know off the top of your head if there is anything special about the nova-ceph-multistore job that woudl cause no image found on volume upload?
16:45:30	dansmith	volume upload to glance?
16:45:49	sean-k-mooney	presumable yes
16:46:09	dansmith	not really, that seems sort of impossible,
16:46:16	dansmith	since you create first and then upload
16:46:19	elodilles	(and the devstack patch merged successfully on 27th March, so it either not fully blocking or it was fixed on stable/2025.1 somehow)
16:46:30	gmann	seems like glance fail to import image?
16:46:32	gmann	#link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/54c93553fc6c4797b25077fb29a89338/log/controller/logs/screen-g-api.txt#12807
16:47:33	sean-k-mooney	953cc449-8f49-4d56-ab3e-49b54f49f937 failed to import image 833ccb36-83b8-41a7-b932-86884e4cdfc0 to the filesystem.: NoneType: None
16:47:47	dansmith	is this a multinode setup?
16:47:53	dansmith	with glance-remote configured?
16:48:13	dansmith	that sort of looks like it can't do import because it can't look up the configured self-reference url of a node that did the stage, maybe?

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