| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2025-03-25 | |||
| 16:26:38 | gibi | yepp | |
| 16:26:40 | bauzas | yup | |
| 16:26:46 | bauzas | (sorry, meeting was over) | |
| 16:27:01 | Uggla | bauzas, no still in the meeting | |
| 16:27:17 | bauzas | as a reminder, any new release candidate impacts our distros | |
| 16:27:34 | bauzas | so we definitely only need to provide a RC2 if this is a regression | |
| 16:27:47 | elodilles | (with my release core hat on) anyway, let me know if an RC2 is needed (or not needed) as this week is when we can release a final RC as i said o:) | |
| 16:28:53 | elodilles | (i'll generate final RC patches (where there are merged and unreleased stuff on stable/2025.1) somewhere around 2nd half of the week fwiw) | |
| 16:29:18 | bauzas | ack thanks | |
| 16:29:22 | elodilles | np | |
| 16:30:36 | dansmith | are we done? | |
| 16:30:56 | Uggla | keerthivasan86[m], are the answer of sean ok for you ? | |
| 16:31:29 | Uggla | any other topic ? | |
| 16:31:56 | masahito | question for the ptg topic selection and timeslot | |
| 16:32:29 | Uggla | masahito, the current topic are in the etherpad above. | |
| 16:32:49 | masahito | thank. ah, yes. I added some. | |
| 16:33:06 | Uggla | I think not all of them are available. I know new ones will come. | |
| 16:33:22 | Uggla | Then we will organize the timeslot to discuss all of them. | |
| 16:33:29 | sean-k-mooney | Uggla: i assume masahito wanted to ask about when there topics will be scheduled | |
| 16:33:39 | sean-k-mooney | or perhaps suggest when tehy are aviable | |
| 16:33:51 | masahito | my question is the ptg time slot is limited so i don't think the ptg can't cover all topics. so i want to know when and how it's decided. | |
| 16:34:13 | sean-k-mooney | masahito: we dont have many topics currently | |
| 16:34:20 | masahito | s/ptg can't/ptg can/ | |
| 16:34:22 | sean-k-mooney | i woudl be surrprised if we didnt cover them all | |
| 16:34:52 | Uggla | I think for the time slot it will be almost ok next week. | |
| 16:35:04 | keerthivasan86[m] | yes Uggla As sean-k-mooney suggested specless blueprint or fresh blueprint to implement tx_queue_size | |
| 16:35:27 | opendevreview | sean mooney proposed openstack/placement master: improve test logging and replace psycopg2 with psycopg2-binary https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/945487 | |
| 16:35:35 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: ^ | |
| 16:35:50 | keerthivasan86[m] | can i create fresh blueprint to implement tx_queue_size for vhost-net feature ? | |
| 16:35:55 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: ack | |
| 16:36:00 | Uggla | Masahito, we’ll try to accommodate your schedule so you can join. | |
| 16:36:13 | masahito | i got it for the next week meeting. | |
| 16:36:54 | Uggla | any other topic ? | |
| 16:36:55 | masahito | thanks. I prefer 14:00UTC or later slot because of family reason as it's remote session :) | |
| 16:37:28 | Uggla | masahito, sure I'll keep that in mind. | |
| 16:38:31 | Uggla | looks we can close the meeting | |
| 16:39:22 | Uggla | thanks all | |
| 16:39:27 | Uggla | #endmeeting | |
| 16:39:27 | opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Mar 25 16:39:27 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | |
| 16:39:27 | opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-03-25-16.00.html | |
| 16:39:27 | opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-03-25-16.00.txt | |
| 16:39:27 | opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-03-25-16.00.log.html | |
| 16:39:41 | elodilles | thanks Uggla o/ | |
| 16:39:48 | masahito | thank you o/ | |
| 16:39:50 | Uggla | elodilles, ty | |
| 16:42:10 | bauzas | Uggla: bravo for your first meeting :) | |
| 16:44:28 | Uggla | bauzas, ty | |
| 16:46:23 | gibi | Uggla: thanks | |
| 17:33:24 | simondodsley | elodilles: not sure if you saw the conversation yesterday, but are the stable cores open to backport these 3 XS patches to resolve the SCSI page 83 passthrough issue: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22lun-device-serial%22 | |
| 18:10:10 | gboutry | Hello, I'm currently splitting my hair around https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/2103413 | |
| 18:10:13 | gboutry | I'm currently running nova 31.0.0RC1 tag on python3.13, and I can't create a new instance. | |
| 18:10:17 | gboutry | When I'm trying to, I'm getting the error described in the ticket. | |
| 18:10:22 | gboutry | At around nova/nova/network/neutron.py:1233 (allocate_for_instance), admin_client.httpclient.dict seems to get totally wiped | |
| 18:10:26 | gboutry | going from {'session': <keystoneauth1.session.Session object at 0x7e1a2c601950>,... 'endpoint_override': None, ...} to {} (empty dict) | |
| 18:10:31 | gboutry | Thus failing with the error in the lp bug. the line number it happens varies but always in the function, so this looks like a finalizer going off the rails? | |
| 18:10:35 | gboutry | This seems python 3.13 related, but I'm not sure | |
| 18:11:30 | gboutry | I would appreciate any advice :) | |
| 18:13:16 | sean-k-mooney | gboutry: 3.13 is not offically supproted yet | |
| 18:13:24 | sean-k-mooney | it might work but its not actully tested | |
| 18:13:50 | sean-k-mooney | https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/runtimes/2025.1.rst is the supproted python verisons | |
| 18:14:26 | sean-k-mooney | gboutry: initall testing for 3.13 will be part of 2025.2 and it will only become requried in 2026.1 | |
| 18:16:22 | gboutry | sean-k-mooney: thanks for the info, Epoxy is targeted to be released in Ubuntu Plucky (25.04) which is using Python 3.13, we'll most likely need to carry a patch downstream if I can find the root cause of this issue | |
| 18:16:32 | sean-k-mooney | gboutry: i wonder if this could be eventlet related. teh error is coming form keystone authg via neutron client | |
| 18:17:26 | gboutry | I am getting some eventlet assertion errors in the background: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/WhKxDrvQHt/ | |
| 18:18:30 | gboutry | https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/commit/4d48d10b990910cc87ec6bbeeaea63b295fe314d python 3.13 has been added in this commit | |
| 18:18:37 | gboutry | I'll continue poking in this direction, thanks | |
| 18:19:11 | sean-k-mooney | so that after fork thing has come up before | |
| 18:19:27 | sean-k-mooney | we had to workaround a behvior change i think in 3.11 or 3.12 | |
| 18:19:41 | sean-k-mooney | to make sure we got the right id | |
| 18:19:49 | sean-k-mooney | perhasp that broken on 3.13 again | |
| 18:22:10 | sean-k-mooney | gboutry: https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/592 | |
| 18:22:51 | sean-k-mooney | we remvoed that workaroudn in epoxy https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/cd980cdd1ea957a9aa2220014046ea53079a623f | |
| 18:23:02 | sean-k-mooney | because it has been fixed for a long time in eventlet | |
| 18:23:53 | sean-k-mooney | gboutry: you could try reverting that again locally and see if it fixes that issue on 3.13 but its really a eventlet bug and a regression fo something they previosly fixed | |
| 18:24:20 | sean-k-mooney | hum well not quite | |
| 18:24:20 | gboutry | Thanks for the insight! I'll comeback later (need to take care of something), after reverting that, I'll report back! | |
| 18:24:30 | sean-k-mooney | its a slightly diffent error | |
| 18:24:39 | sean-k-mooney | btu realted to the same code | |
| 18:24:57 | sean-k-mooney | cool | |
| 18:25:04 | gboutry | yes, this happens in the new code specific for python 3.13 support haha | |
| 18:30:23 | sean-k-mooney | gboutry: if you figure it out let us know. we will be trying to enable 3.13 this cycle and dont have issue with backproting non invaisive change to supprot it in 2025.1 but it wont officlaly be supproted for a while | |
| 19:01:27 | mikal | sean-k-mooney: sorry I missed the meeting, I was asleep. I am not entirely sure I know what a "specless blueprint" is. Is that just a blueprint in launchpad? There is already one for the SPICE work, are you saying I need a second one for the extra specs stuff? | |
| 19:02:35 | sean-k-mooney | mikal: a specless blueprint is just a launchpad blueprint that we agree does not require a spec so we approch based on the description of the bluepint in the irc meeting | |
| 19:02:52 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. if we belive it not contoverioal enough of big enough to need a spec | |
| 19:03:07 | sean-k-mooney | the current blueprint for the spice direct work will be closed as completed shortly | |
| 19:03:23 | sean-k-mooney | we should have a new blueprint for the vdi part fo 2025.2 | |
| 19:03:30 | mikal | Ahhh, ok. | |
| 19:03:52 | sean-k-mooney | mikal: i dont know if folks will want a mini spec for the vdi part or be fine with a detailed blueprint | |
| 19:04:12 | sean-k-mooney | given it basicaly code complete already and we discussed the design last cycle | |
| 19:05:15 | sean-k-mooney | mikal: regarding sleep you can add the bleuprint to the team meeting wiki or just ask async on the mailing list for it to be dicussed at the next one | |
| 19:06:00 | sean-k-mooney | mikal: i ment to bring it up today i just didnt have a link to the vdi work | |
| 19:07:25 | mikal | Huh. There are a surprisingly large number of SPICE blueprints on launchpad. | |
| 19:07:46 | sean-k-mooney | ya and a couple of video/audio/vdi ones | |
| 19:07:58 | mikal | Yeah, this is news to me. I shall have to read them. | |
| 19:08:05 | sean-k-mooney | like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-audio-device | |
| 19:08:18 | sean-k-mooney | mikal: I dont think any of them are relevnet anymore | |
| 19:08:30 | sean-k-mooney | mikal: im ot aware of anyoen actully working on them | |
| 19:08:35 | mikal | And https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-spice-video-sound-driver | |
| 19:09:04 | sean-k-mooney | ya that the really old one | |
| 19:09:23 | sean-k-mooney | there is also a usb redirection one | |