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#openstack-nova - 2024-11-29
20:10:43 sean-k-mooney[m] most probaly dont
20:10:54 sean-k-mooney[m] the other thing i check it for is is there a meeting currently
20:11:03 sean-k-mooney[m] i.e when joining a differnt channle before talking
20:11:20 sean-k-mooney[m] but ya im not sure new commers would do that
20:11:53 ildikov getting into this channel is not trivial for a newcomer, so my assumption is that they probably already got through some contributor documentation before getting here
20:13:13 sean-k-mooney[m] its funny becuase this was actully one of the eaiser things to get invovled in when i first stated
20:13:55 sean-k-mooney[m] i had nver used irc before working on openstack and i remember that being one of the eaiser things to get set up
20:14:24 ildikov I loved IRC when I joined the community, I used it a little bit in high school
20:14:46 ildikov but I joined OpenStack over a decade now...
20:14:51 ildikov crazy to think about it
20:15:03 sean-k-mooney[m] getting my company to approve the icla, removing the email fotter on all company emails or allow code submition took months
20:15:09 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: vTPM live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/936775
20:15:11 ildikov and the chat tool landscape only got crazier since then
20:17:15 sean-k-mooney[m] no joke when i first started working on openstack intel required me to email a set of virus scan reulst to a qe person before ei could submit a patch to gerrit….
20:17:53 ildikov oh wow
20:18:35 ildikov I had a few chats with lawyers, but it still wasn't *that* bad
20:19:26 sean-k-mooney[m] it took 6 months to explain why that was entirly unworkable. at the time they site i was working on didnt really have expirnce with doing code contibutions to upstream and condierd each a release as if we were putting the contibution on intel.com to download
20:20:40 ildikov yeah, I can see how it's hard when there's an internal process that someone could map to code contribution
20:21:38 sean-k-mooney[m] we had to do the full secure software development lifecyle review and get leagal sign off on the licene and icla terms ecta. so anyway thats all in the past
20:21:52 sean-k-mooney[m] a lot has changed since 2013
20:22:49 sean-k-mooney[m] it might be worth puthing the link to the contibutor page in the readme of the git repo too
20:23:01 sean-k-mooney[m] honestly that always the first thing i read for any project
20:24:57 sean-k-mooney[m] we kind of do i guess but CONTRIBUTING.rst is not a link to the doc
20:38:11 ildikov one thing to keep in mind though is that the link needs to be updated periodically
20:39:51 ildikov so the more places it appears, the harder the maintenance gets
20:43:51 gmann ildikov: maybe but not 100% true. In upstream training we used to tell this is IRC and how you can join it but that does not mean they know about team, its process and details
20:44:28 gmann getting into the ML, IRC is very minimum effort to get in but knowing details about team, contribution etc is not
20:46:32 ildikov I did not mean to say that it is harder to get into IRC than all the other things people need to contribute code, docs, etc
20:47:54 ildikov what meant was, if someone got into the IRC channel, that likely means that they found the contributors documentation
20:48:14 ildikov whether they found Nova's specific docs or the overall contributor guide, that's still an open question
20:49:09 ildikov but, they likely found where some of the how-to-contribute docs lives and can use those to get into the process side of things
21:54:54 gmann This is nova specific guide not general how-to-contribute docs https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/contributor/contributing.html
21:55:11 gmann contributing.html in all project is project specific process guide
22:44:44 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Support rescuing an instance with shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860287
#openstack-nova - 2024-11-30
02:44:52 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Replace distutils https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/936067
02:52:01 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Drop usage of pkg_resources https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/931312
02:55:02 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Fix broken link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/931663
04:02:32 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for host aggregate actions API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/924584
15:09:49 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate [wsgi] secure_proxy_ssl_header https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817927
19:22:29 gmann sean-k-mooney[m]: base jobs are now migrated to Noble, can you check these two https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/935579 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/935581
20:14:17 sean-k-mooney[m] gmann: done
20:14:38 gmann thanks
22:01:02 opendevreview Merged openstack/placement master: Update gate jobs as per the 2025.1 cycle testing runtime https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/935581
23:15:35 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Update gate jobs as per the 2025.1 cycle testing runtime https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/932648
#openstack-nova - 2024-12-01
07:31:33 kevko sean-k-mooney[m]: I fixed rebuild for volume backed root volume I've asked you :) -> https://paste.openstack.org/show/bviZuXSaoTdCdrbtekRx/
07:31:46 kevko sean-k-mooney[m]: thank you for discuss
#openstack-nova - 2024-12-02
10:40:43 s3rj1k sean-k-mooney: Hi, where you able to tackle that change you proposed about distributed discovery?
10:43:03 sean-k-mooney i didnt actully start on a real implemantation beyond the psudo code we discussed. i dont think it would be particallary hard to do im just not sure ill have time to do it
10:43:48 s3rj1k I am interested to test it out, just in case :)
10:45:17 sean-k-mooney if i can find an hour or two this week i may throw up a poc and you can let me know if it works for you, im going on pto for the rest of the year wednesday next week so there are a few things i need to do before then
10:46:20 s3rj1k sounds good, thanks
13:05:14 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/placement master: WIP: Round-robin candidate generation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/936832
13:14:04 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Deprecate [wsgi] secure_proxy_ssl_header https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817927
14:36:13 sean-k-mooney bauzas: Uggla: comments left on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/936407, im kind of furstrated that many of the things i requested durign the ptg dicsssion where not done. with that said reading back over the ptg note we did not recored all the thigns we agreed and some of the things that were "agreed" are wrong so i can understand where some of the
14:36:15 sean-k-mooney confution comes form
14:37:06 sean-k-mooney if i recall correctly i joined that topic about 10 mins in and wehn i did the direction changed significanlty
14:37:24 sean-k-mooney it looks like we didnt remove the previosu agrrements that happend before i was involved
15:02:16 bauzas sean-k-mooney: thanks for your comments, as a reminder, this was a WIP but once the spec is updated, we'll tell you
15:02:34 bauzas sean-k-mooney: if you think we missed a specific action item on the PTG etherpad, please tell me
15:04:04 sean-k-mooney there are 3 points that seam to have been missed. 1.) i asked that the spec not be GPU specific, 2 that the live migration and general supprot be called out spereatly in tow differnt sections, 3.) that pci in placment should be optional
15:04:04 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for host aggregate APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/924585
15:05:32 sean-k-mooney the spec does not yet cover the live mgiration changes, yet the usecase refence it so i was expecting the current draft to cover the non live migration usecases/constrains and then for the live migration aspect to be added leater
15:07:24 sean-k-mooney im fine with discussing the generic enabling and live migration at the same time but given i expect those to be delvier potentiall in diffent relases i want to make sure we are clear on what is required for each case
15:07:38 sean-k-mooney i would hope we can do both in epoxy
15:07:53 sean-k-mooney but i dont want to require both to merge anything
15:09:13 sean-k-mooney so what im hopign to see is a clear plan for how to supprot pci passthough with vendor specific vfio-pci variant drievers, and addtionally how to support live migratable VF when supproted by the vendor
15:14:17 bauzas about 1), this was a mistake from rené, the trait was needing CUSTOM_ and it was just an example
15:14:26 bauzas 2/ agree with you
15:15:04 bauzas 3/ agree with you as well, but we definitely need to test the POC before, in order to be sure we're not missing anything
15:31:12 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: api: Add response body schemas for extensions API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/924586
17:20:12 sean-k-mooney bauzas: well using CUSTOM_ woudl still be wrong as we use Resouce Classes to modle the device vendor id and product id when using pci in placment
17:20:52 sean-k-mooney so "traits": "CUSTOM_NVIDIA_A16_16A" woudl still be incorect in that case
17:21:32 sean-k-mooney CUSTOM_MIGRATABLE is more accpable but we can standarize that trait as its generic
17:23:06 sean-k-mooney if you have differend VFs with the same vendor_id and product_id bug are configured for diffent nvida vgpu types then you should use spereate resouce classes to modle that not traits if we want this to be compatiable with how pci in placmeent is intended to work
#openstack-nova - 2024-12-03
01:36:23 opendevreview Masanori Kuroha proposed openstack/nova master: Use instance.image_meta instead of request_spec.image in prep_resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/936910
02:08:27 opendevreview Masanori Kuroha proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Use instance.image_meta instead of request_spec.image in prep_resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/936910
12:34:14 stephenfin gmann: jfyi I've a few more openAPI-related patches tacked onto the top of that series, which will be necessary for the rest of the schema patches that I'm carrying locally. It starts here, if have time to take a look https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/924597/
13:03:15 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/placement master: WIP: Test mitigations for candidate explosion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/936658
13:03:16 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/placement master: WIP: Round-robin candidate generation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/936832
13:07:36 opendevreview Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Replace glanceclient with openstacksdk https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/931276
13:35:33 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/placement master: WIP: Round-robin candidate generation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/936832
14:26:34 opendevreview Masanori Kuroha proposed openstack/nova master: Retrieve the image metadata from instance.image_meta during resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/936910
16:00:56 bauzas #startmeeting nova
16:00:56 opendevmeet Meeting started Tue Dec 3 16:00:56 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
16:00:56 opendevmeet Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
16:00:56 opendevmeet The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
16:01:05 bauzas hi folks
16:01:13 bauzas #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting
16:01:17 bauzas who's around ?
16:01:33 s3rj1k hi all
16:01:45 elodilles o/
16:01:52 ratailor o/
16:04:10 bauzas okay, let's start
16:04:24 bauzas #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
16:04:30 bauzas #info No Critical bug
16:04:39 bauzas #info Add yourself in the team bug roster if you want to help https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster
16:04:45 bauzas any bugs to discuss today ?
16:05:33 bauzas looks not
16:05:36 bauzas moving on
16:06:06 bauzas #topic Gate status

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