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#openstack-nova - 2024-11-19
16:28:56 bauzas sean-k-mooney: please do so we respect the current policy
16:29:00 sean-k-mooney i just said i would ask ot see if there was any objection
16:29:22 bauzas I don't expect any controversy but I'd like to continue doing things the normal way
16:29:39 sean-k-mooney ok thats all form me then
16:29:55 bauzas cool then we can end this meeting
16:30:01 bauzas thanks all !
16:30:06 bauzas #endmeeting
16:30:06 opendevmeet Meeting ended Tue Nov 19 16:30:06 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:30:06 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2024/nova.2024-11-19-16.00.html
16:30:06 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2024/nova.2024-11-19-16.00.txt
16:30:06 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2024/nova.2024-11-19-16.00.log.html
16:30:14 elodilles thanks o/
16:30:24 tkajinam thank you
16:30:27 gibi thanks folks
16:30:54 s3rj1k thanks
16:31:24 tkajinam gibi, thanks for reviewing these (sorry for my late reply but I wanted to avoid congestion) !
16:31:50 tkajinam gibi, and may I ask you a favor, to review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/930726 , too?
16:31:55 luca_ hello, we are experimenting with GPU passtrough with nova and placement, we incurred in a strange issue, we have 2 hosts with 8 GPUs each, we managed to run VMs with 5 GPU, but as soon as we try to schedule a VM with 6 or more GPUs placement times out because of the many candidates yields (40320), i was wondering if you can help checking our configuration for fixes.
16:32:58 gibi tkajinam: sure
16:33:04 tkajinam gibi, thanks !
16:33:07 tkajinam luca_, which version of nova/placement are you using ?
16:34:31 luca_ we are using kolla-ansible 2024.1 quay.io/openstack.kolla/placement-api:2024.1-ubuntu-jammy and quay.io/openstack.kolla/nova-api:2024.1-ubuntu-jammy
16:34:51 gibi tkajinam: done. Thanks for all the cleanups. I really appreciate your commitment to make nova a cleaner place
16:35:28 gibi luca_: this is a known issue, let me find the bug
16:35:38 bauzas do you have T4s ?
16:35:55 sean-k-mooney t4s would not really impact this
16:36:01 gibi luca_: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/855885
16:36:07 tkajinam gibi, honor to hear it :-)
16:36:21 sean-k-mooney bauzas: this is related to the combinitorial explaiton that happens with many nestted resouce providers
16:36:48 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Amend ShareMappingStatus due to asynchronous call https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/908864
16:36:49 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Amend DB model add a unique constraint. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/912518
16:36:49 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Attach Manila shares via virtiofs (manila abstraction) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/831194
16:36:50 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Use client token when talking to manila https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/925277
16:36:50 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Attach Manila shares via virtiofs (drivers and compute manager part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/833090
16:36:51 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Mounting the shares as part of the initialization process https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/880075
16:36:51 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Deletion of associated share mappings on instance deletion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/881472
16:36:52 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add metadata for shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850500
16:36:52 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add share_info parameter to reboot method for each driver (driver part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/854823
16:36:54 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Support rebooting an instance with shares (compute manager part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/854824
16:36:54 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add share_info parameter to resume method for each driver (driver part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860284
16:36:56 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Support resuming an instance with shares (compute manager part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860285
16:36:56 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add helper methods to rescue/unrescue shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860286
16:36:58 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Support rescuing an instance with shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860287
16:36:58 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Allow to mount manila share using Cephfs protocol https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883862
16:37:00 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Check shares support (compute manager) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/885751
16:37:00 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Attach Manila shares via virtiofs (API) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/836830
16:37:02 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add helper methods to attach/detach shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/885753
16:37:02 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_attach notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850501
16:37:04 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_detach notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/851028
16:37:04 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add shares to InstancePayload https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/851029
16:37:06 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_attach_error notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860282
16:37:06 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_detach_error notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860283
16:37:08 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Reports instance events to the DB regarding attaching and detaching a share https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/927088
16:37:08 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add libvirt test to ensure metadata are working. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/852086
16:37:10 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add virt/libvirt error test cases https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/852087
16:37:10 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Manila shares admin guide documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/871642
16:37:18 bauzas sean-k-mooney: ah I was doing too many things at once, I just briefly looked and saw GPU passthrough"
16:37:43 sean-k-mooney luca_: gibi: i tought we had a diffent one but https://bugs.launchpad.net/placement/+bug/2070257 is the same porblem
16:37:50 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/2024.2: Route shared storage RPC to evac dest at startup https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/934302
16:37:52 sean-k-mooney there is an older one on the nova side somewhere
16:38:18 sean-k-mooney related to amd cpus? and numa?
16:38:23 gibi luca_: sean-k-mooney: yeah that bug seems to report the same thing
16:38:56 luca_ i see, by any chanche using the old PciPasstroughFilter in the scheduler instead of using placement will solve this issue?
16:39:11 sean-k-mooney it will work around it yes
16:39:26 sean-k-mooney at the cost of the inablity to have quota
16:39:36 sean-k-mooney to do do some more advanced schduilgn
16:39:57 sean-k-mooney if you disable pci in placmenement then it will remove the nested resouce providers
16:40:09 gibi this is GPU so GPU is using placement without the PCI in Placement feature enabled
16:40:10 sean-k-mooney and the allcoation candiate epxlotion will be mitigated
16:40:19 gibi so this logic cannot be turned on I think
16:40:29 gibi turned off
16:40:34 sean-k-mooney is it gpu or vgpu
16:40:40 luca_ GPU
16:40:42 sean-k-mooney gpu passthough is just pci passthough
16:40:52 luca_ yeah i am passing pci-devices
16:41:01 tkajinam gibi, sorry for asking a favor again but do you mind adding +a, too ?
16:41:09 gibi luca_: did you enabled pci_in_placement ?
16:41:13 luca_ yes
16:41:17 gibi luca_: ahh I see.
16:41:18 tkajinam I wonder if adding an option to limit maximum candidates to placement resolves the issue ?
16:41:29 gibi luca_: then yes, turning off pci_in_placement will help
16:41:29 luca_ wwhich i read is not possible to disable after enabling it :D
16:41:34 tkajinam (I don't have full context, though)
16:41:39 sean-k-mooney luca_: this is the main reason that is tech preview downstream for what its worth
16:42:00 sean-k-mooney luca_: kind of not with workload at least
16:42:01 luca_ iyeah no problem this is a testing enviroment we can rebuild it if it is needed
16:42:09 gibi luca_: not out of the box, you probably need to hack around I'm affraid
16:42:16 gibi tkajinam: done, sorry I missed it
16:42:24 tkajinam gibi, np and thanks again !
16:42:31 sean-k-mooney luca_: you can do a few things
16:42:41 gibi luca_: wondering about the limit tkajinam suggests
16:43:02 sean-k-mooney gibi: that kind of works but not well
16:43:22 tkajinam one downside of that limit is that it may not work well with randomize_allocation_candidates
16:43:23 sean-k-mooney if you reduce the limit you will likely only get one or two chosts
16:43:44 tkajinam yeah
16:43:49 sean-k-mooney tkajinam: i think by defualt we generate all the permutiaon on a per host basis
16:44:06 sean-k-mooney we have a downstream issue to optimise this in the future where we woudl do a barbar pole stirp
16:44:20 gibi luca_: this is the limit config https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#scheduler.max_placement_results but maybe it limits after the candidates are generated :/
16:44:26 sean-k-mooney i.e. take the first candate for each host until we get to the limit in a round robbing fashion
16:45:01 sean-k-mooney the default limti is 1000 canidates i belive

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