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#openstack-nova - 2024-10-08
16:19:29 bauzas the wikipage's agenda is now updated \o/
16:19:54 bauzas #topic Release Planning
16:20:01 bauzas #info Dalmatian GA last Wednesday
16:20:03 bauzas huzzah
16:20:08 elodilles \o/
16:20:11 bauzas #link https://releases.openstack.org/epoxy/schedule.html
16:20:31 bauzas #info as a reminder, nova Epoxy deadlines will be defined at the PTG
16:20:48 bauzas #topic Review priorities
16:21:42 bauzas #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.1-status
16:21:50 bauzas nothing to report
16:21:56 bauzas #topic PTG planning
16:22:02 bauzas #info as a reminder, we'll meet (virtually) at the PTG on Oct 21-25 2024
16:22:10 bauzas #info Please register yourself to the virtual PTG
16:22:17 bauzas #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.1-ptg
16:22:24 bauzas the etherpad is horribly empty
16:23:13 bauzas I know some of us could wait a bit before adding topics, but maybe some people could already know things that they're sure that they could be working
16:23:14 gibi then we will have a slow ptg week :)
16:23:34 bauzas gibi: I'm afraid this will just mean we'll have a short time for organizing ourselves
16:23:43 bauzas with a packed week
16:24:15 bauzas I also got a request from the horizon team to have a cross-project session
16:24:37 gibi agility :)
16:24:53 bauzas I'll reply to tatiana asking her when they're available during the week
16:25:06 bauzas gibi: please, don't say gross words
16:25:48 bauzas given the current agenda, I'm cool with taking one hour from the 16 I booked
16:26:23 sean-k-mooney1 gibi: yes i know what causes that
16:26:29 bauzas oh, also I'll probably need to handover some Friday discussions as I would attend the TC sessions
16:26:38 sean-k-mooney1 i shoudl go and revert the patch that added that until i can fix the it properly
16:27:07 gibi sean-k-mooney1: ack
16:27:09 bauzas anyway, moving on
16:27:11 sean-k-mooney1 ah just caught up
16:27:16 bauzas #topic Stable Branches
16:27:36 bauzas elodilles: report :)
16:27:45 elodilles not much to report actually :)
16:27:48 elodilles #info stable/202*.* gates seem to be OK
16:27:58 elodilles and that's all for now :)
16:28:38 bauzas ++
16:28:50 bauzas #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights
16:28:53 bauzas fwiesel: around ?
16:28:56 fwiesel #info https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/910627 merged
16:29:07 fwiesel So, in theory, we should be down to two failing tests...
16:29:31 fwiesel Theory, as the pipeline is still flaky. I have a lead, but no fix yet for that.
16:29:46 fwiesel After that, I tackle the last two failing tests.
16:29:56 fwiesel That's from my side, unless there are any questions.
16:30:12 bauzas cool, thanks
16:30:25 fwiesel (Thanks to sean-k-moonkey1 and dansmith for reviewing it)
16:30:29 bauzas #topic Open discussion
16:30:35 bauzas (tkajinam): Python 3.8 support being removed
16:30:41 bauzas is tkajinam around ?
16:31:31 bauzas oh wait, I'm burned
16:31:38 bauzas we discussed that last week
16:31:46 bauzas this just ringed a bell to my tired mind
16:31:59 bauzas moving on to the other item in the agenda
16:32:19 bauzas (auniyal) Request to approve blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-manage-improvement
16:32:22 bauzas is auniyal here ?
16:32:26 auniyal yep
16:32:44 auniyal its an improvement in nova-manage cmd
16:33:06 auniyal to return output in more formats such as json
16:33:26 dansmith doesn't this need a spec given some of the complexities around making sure there is consistency among all the commands?
16:33:29 sean-k-mooney so that eaiser said then done
16:33:44 sean-k-mooney unlike osc we are using raw prints
16:33:51 sean-k-mooney in nova manage
16:34:42 gibi at least on of the use case is coming from here https://github.com/openstack-k8s-operators/nova-operator/blob/7e7ba33aab515809fb23ce20cb6a55e50da3f457/templates/nova-manage/bin/ensure_cell_mapping.sh#L20-L25 and for that having a --cell_name param would be enough
16:35:00 sean-k-mooney we cnat rely on click/cliff to help use with that generically
16:35:14 sean-k-mooney we could do it on a per comand basis yes
16:35:21 bauzas AFAIK, originally nova-manage wasn't intended to be scripted
16:35:27 bauzas hence the poor interface
16:35:45 auniyal sure, I can write a spec, the output is formatted by prettytable mostly
16:35:54 gibi bauzas: deployment tooling needs to add cells, there is no other interface for that
16:36:05 auniyal which supports other format as well
16:36:19 bauzas gibi: I wasn't disagreeing your usecase, I was just explaining why we basically have that
16:36:51 sean-k-mooney auniyal: so for succsful output yes alot goes via prettytbale
16:36:52 gibi and my use case does not need json output per se, it needs a way to easily manipulate cells by name and not by uuid
16:36:58 sean-k-mooney error tend to just use print directly
16:37:02 bauzas but I agree with dansmith, there could be some concerns about ensuring that we keep the same formatted output
16:37:23 sean-k-mooney so lets move forward with a spec and review the proposal
16:37:28 bauzas agreed
16:37:29 dansmith gibi: ack, the cell_name thing is easy to just do without a spec, no doubt.. the json thing not so much, IMHO
16:37:52 dansmith I think we can just tuck the cell_name thing under the covers without a lot of paperwork, IMHO, if it's as easy as I expect
16:37:59 dansmith so perhaps just do that as a one-off and spec for the json stuff?
16:38:16 auniyal ack
16:38:19 gibi we can do both but I prefer to have --cell_name as that feels easier
16:38:27 bauzas yeah that should be two blueprints
16:38:46 bauzas one for adding a new param to the command, the other one about formatting outputs
16:39:05 dansmith idk that we need a blueprint for a single simpleish patch for cell_name, personally, but whatever the PTL says :)
16:39:13 bauzas and as dansmith, I'm cool with stamping over the cell param addition bp as a specless, if that helps
16:39:36 bauzas then the PTL says : dude, write the patch and consider it as just a techdeby
16:39:45 dansmith ++
16:39:49 sean-k-mooney if we want a tracker i guess we can use a wishlist bug
16:39:52 bauzas tech debt reduction
16:40:02 dansmith sean-k-mooney: sure
16:40:03 sean-k-mooney yep
16:40:13 bauzas let's not paper it, we now have a status etherpad for tracking such patches
16:40:25 bauzas but I'm cool with a wishlist bug
16:41:17 dansmith moving on?
16:41:23 bauzas yah
16:41:31 gibi cool
16:41:34 bauzas that was it in the agenda
16:41:45 dansmith if I can, I'd like to beg for review of this: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/930754
16:41:48 bauzas anything else or can I just take a breath before my 4th meeting ?
16:42:00 dansmith definitely could use some in-depth sanity checking of my findings

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