| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2024-10-01 | |||
| 16:12:53 | bauzas | #link https://releases.openstack.org/dalmatian/schedule.html | |
| 16:12:58 | bauzas | #info Dalmatian GA planned tomorrow | |
| 16:13:08 | tkajinam | \o/ | |
| 16:13:08 | bauzas | that will probably help RDO ^ | |
| 16:13:17 | bauzas | #link https://releases.openstack.org/epoxy/schedule.html | |
| 16:13:33 | bauzas | as a reminder, we don't have yet nova deadlines for Epoxy, that will be discussed at the PTG | |
| 16:13:54 | bauzas | #topic Review priorities | |
| 16:14:02 | bauzas | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.1-status | |
| 16:14:22 | bauzas | I need to do some homework and add the already approved blueprints in therre | |
| 16:15:30 | bauzas | at least gibi's series on igb is there | |
| 16:15:40 | bauzas | sounds like a quickwin | |
| 16:15:48 | bauzas | #topic PTG planning | |
| 16:15:54 | bauzas | #info as a reminder, we'll meet (virtually) at the PTG on Oct 21-25 2024 | |
| 16:16:00 | bauzas | #info Please register yourself to the virtual PTG | |
| 16:16:07 | bauzas | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2025.1-ptg | |
| 16:16:16 | bauzas | please add your topics to the above etherpad | |
| 16:16:34 | bauzas | the more we have before the PTG, the better we are prepared and I can write some agenda :) | |
| 16:16:56 | bauzas | we'll have the Austin room for the week | |
| 16:17:04 | bauzas | (but I think I already said that last week) | |
| 16:17:28 | bauzas | any questions about the PTG ? | |
| 16:17:54 | gibi | bauzas: will we have Asia slot? | |
| 16:18:05 | bauzas | for the translations docs thing with ian and sungsoo, there is a TC topic about it | |
| 16:18:28 | bauzas | gibi: I don't think so, seongsoo and ian had their topic in the TC etherpad | |
| 16:18:47 | bauzas | I'll clarify that tonight during the TC meeting | |
| 16:19:15 | gibi | OK, so TC won't have an Asia slot either? | |
| 16:19:31 | bauzas | unless of course I see a few topics in the nova PTG etherpad where the owners are in Asian TZ | |
| 16:19:52 | bauzas | gibi: that's the question I'll ask tonight :D | |
| 16:20:03 | gibi | cool:) | |
| 16:20:30 | bauzas | I'm fine with addressing the translation issues as a cross-project discussion | |
| 16:20:42 | bauzas | but I can propose nova for some experimental work | |
| 16:20:50 | gibi | me too, I just need to know in advance if there is an extra schedule | |
| 16:21:07 | bauzas | yeah, I want to prepare my mornings :) | |
| 16:21:23 | bauzas | should be hopefully settled next week | |
| 16:21:32 | gibi | those sweet lazy mornings of the PTG week :) | |
| 16:21:54 | bauzas | for the moment, we stick with the usual slots that are 1300-1700UTC Tues to Fri | |
| 16:22:18 | gibi | ack | |
| 16:22:44 | bauzas | #topic Stable Branches | |
| 16:22:48 | bauzas | elodilles: heya | |
| 16:22:56 | elodilles | #info stable/202*.* gates seem to be OK | |
| 16:23:09 | elodilles | at least i'm not aware of any issue :) | |
| 16:23:20 | elodilles | and some patches merged, so probably OK | |
| 16:23:27 | elodilles | #info note, that stable/2023.1 (antelope) will transition to unmaintained/2023.1 in a month | |
| 16:23:45 | elodilles | we might want a release in 1 or 2 weeks ^^^ | |
| 16:23:55 | bauzas | time flies | |
| 16:23:56 | elodilles | *final* stable/2023.1 release | |
| 16:23:58 | elodilles | yepp | |
| 16:24:18 | elodilles | and that's all from me about stable for now | |
| 16:24:24 | bauzas | one open thought | |
| 16:24:44 | bauzas | but I don't want to start a flamewar now | |
| 16:24:49 | elodilles | :) | |
| 16:25:17 | bauzas | once we unmaintain 2023.1, we will only have one SLURP release | |
| 16:25:21 | bauzas | that's maintained | |
| 16:26:31 | bauzas | giving an extra month before the flag would help people who *really* follow upstream stable support envelope to have more time to upgrade to C | |
| 16:27:23 | dansmith | can we move this along? | |
| 16:27:40 | bauzas | I don't know, that's a blind question | |
| 16:29:24 | bauzas | you know what ? that's not the right place to discuss that and I first need to check the releases support envelopes | |
| 16:30:31 | bauzas | but honestly, my thought was about the fact that I can imagine a SLURP release having a shortly longer support envelope than a non-SLURP one (and don't think about LTSes, that's not what I'm thinking) | |
| 16:31:01 | bauzas | aw, moving on | |
| 16:31:09 | elodilles | bauzas: well, now i'm a bit unsure as well. but i'll check the resolution... | |
| 16:31:18 | bauzas | #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights | |
| 16:31:18 | elodilles | (unmaintained) | |
| 16:31:27 | bauzas | fwiesel: around ? | |
| 16:31:53 | fwiesel | Not much to update from my side. Still looking into the flakyness of the CI (occasional port failing to get bound) | |
| 16:32:16 | fwiesel | dansmith: Gentle reminder about the open comment: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/910627?tab=comments | |
| 16:32:21 | fwiesel | Otherwise, that's from my side. | |
| 16:32:29 | bauzas | cool | |
| 16:33:00 | bauzas | and thanks for the update, g'luck with the flakyness | |
| 16:33:07 | bauzas | #topic Open discussion | |
| 16:33:13 | bauzas | (tkajinam): How can we restore https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845660 ? | |
| 16:33:39 | bauzas | tkajinam: your time | |
| 16:33:56 | tkajinam | I noticed I left that stale for long and I'm willing to resume that work | |
| 16:34:42 | tkajinam | the current problem is that os-brick silently falls back to single path connection in case multipath is not running. os-brick introduce the capability to hard-fail in case mulitpath is not running and that is configurable in cinder and glance, but is not in nova | |
| 16:34:49 | dansmith | fwiesel: ack, but it's not blocking anything | |
| 16:35:11 | gibi | tkajinam: yeah make sense to pick that up | |
| 16:35:28 | tkajinam | my main question here is whether this can be spec-less bp or need spec | |
| 16:35:53 | bauzas | would there be an upgrade impact ? | |
| 16:36:18 | tkajinam | no. the option is disabled by default so the existing behavior is kept during upgrade. | |
| 16:36:44 | gibi | seems like fully backward compatible opt-in behavior | |
| 16:36:46 | fwiesel | dansmith: No, the comment not. I assumed you were volunteering for the second required review core review and hoped I addressed everything outsstanding. | |
| 16:36:53 | gibi | so for me it is OK to have it as specless | |
| 16:36:59 | bauzas | on a rolling upgrade case, you'd then have *some* computes that would fail instance creations while some others not ? | |
| 16:36:59 | tkajinam | yes > full backward compatible. | |
| 16:37:35 | gibi | bauzas: the compute agent will fail to start up if you opt-in to the new behavior but failed to install multipathd | |
| 16:37:52 | bauzas | then a doc would be sufficient | |
| 16:38:14 | bauzas | do you plan to change the behaviour in a later cycle ? | |
| 16:38:36 | tkajinam | no. I think we can keep the behavior optional. that's consistent with cinder and glance for now. | |
| 16:39:18 | bauzas | then I'm indeed cool with a specless BP, provided we document the option correctly (only turn that flag on if you installed multipathd) | |
| 16:40:19 | bauzas | any disagreements ? | |
| 16:41:19 | bauzas | so, | |
| 16:41:44 | bauzas | #agreed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/enforce-multipath approved as specless | |
| 16:41:59 | bauzas | next item | |
| 16:42:02 | bauzas | (tkajinam): Python 3.8 support being removed | |
| 16:42:03 | tkajinam | sean-k-mooney, in case you have any remaining concerns then please let me know ^^^ | |
| 16:42:20 | tkajinam | this is again my topic :-P | |
| 16:42:51 | tkajinam | so as I wrote we are removing python 3.8 support from oslo. This is the timeline we agreed earlier and would move the whole projects to drop python 3.8 support | |
| 16:43:32 | tkajinam | AFAIK py38 job was removed from most of the nova/placement repos but there are a few remaining in placement I'm trying to replace. if you can review the change and also double-check the other repos, that would be nice | |
| 16:43:40 | bauzas | py3.8 upstream support is planned end of Nov, right? | |
| 16:43:57 | bauzas | upstream support end* | |
| 16:44:20 | tkajinam | https://devguide.python.org/versions/ it's reaching its EOL this month | |
| 16:44:29 | bauzas | oh this month | |