| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2024-07-10 | |||
| 09:04:43 | sean-k-mooney | given its a snapshot related test | |
| 09:04:51 | sean-k-mooney | im going to look into the logs now and see | |
| 09:05:07 | frickler | well that msg is in a 500 response to create_server afaict | |
| 09:05:48 | sean-k-mooney | ya so maybe we have an issue with bootign form a snapshot or somehting with the image signing | |
| 09:11:01 | sean-k-mooney | so i think the instance has a cidner volume associated with it i wonder if its on nfs | |
| 09:15:23 | sean-k-mooney | ok no so cinder is configure for lvm | |
| 09:15:50 | sean-k-mooney | if it was nfs i know there are specific snapshot related issue where the glance and actual image format can differr | |
| 09:16:33 | sean-k-mooney | frickler: i may need to add some more debug logging which might be useful in general | |
| 09:17:06 | sean-k-mooney | nova.exception.ImageUnacceptable: Image 93f91dc1-8c6f-416e-ab0d-abab96d1d03e is unacceptable: Image content does not match disk_format | |
| 09:17:31 | sean-k-mooney | is well an good but it would be nice if it printed the requested and actual format | |
| 09:19:02 | sean-k-mooney | its possibel that this si a bug in the barbican plugin too so ill look at the test | |
| 09:21:14 | sean-k-mooney | frickler: so it using a uec image file img_file = /opt/stack/devstack/files/cirros-0.6.2-x86_64-uec.tar.gz | |
| 09:21:18 | sean-k-mooney | https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_f2e/923724/1/check/barbican-tempest-plugin-simple-crypto/f2e7279/controller/logs/tempest_conf.txt | |
| 09:22:02 | sean-k-mooney | the image format is not set in the config | |
| 09:23:34 | sean-k-mooney | and that default to qcow https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/config.py#L1183 | |
| 09:23:53 | sean-k-mooney | frickler: so the nova code is correctr the imnage is not what it says it is | |
| 09:28:04 | sean-k-mooney | frickler: this is because we are overriding the image https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/2024.1/.zuul.yaml#L928 | |
| 09:28:59 | frickler | but why doesn't it fail 100%, then? otoh maybe we don't want to care too much about barbican anyway, I just saw that the barbican-grenade job was last passing 2y ago ... | |
| 09:29:02 | sean-k-mooney | frickler: i need to backport https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/eed3e2b47ffea24d08ad7a85a4e9c36ef56d815e first | |
| 09:29:34 | sean-k-mooney | frickler: i think this is the first backprot that has run on that branch sicne we merge the check | |
| 09:29:52 | sean-k-mooney | the previous two in the seriese did not trigger the barbican job since they were test only | |
| 09:30:32 | sean-k-mooney | ill cherry-pick https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/eed3e2b47ffea24d08ad7a85a4e9c36ef56d815e back and see if that passes if it does then we can proceed with that and recheck the iso backport | |
| 09:38:07 | opendevreview | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova stable/2024.1: Stop using split UEC image (mostly) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/923831 | |
| 09:38:52 | sean-k-mooney | frickler: ok i expect that should pass, if it does we only need that in 2024.1 as that was the only release use used uec images to work around gate insablitiy | |
| 09:40:01 | sean-k-mooney | they didnt actully fix anything they just chagne the timing slightly which looks like panics happend less often but they still happend so we went back to useing qcow a few months ago | |
| 09:43:30 | frickler | ah, ok, that explains why neither master nor older stable branches were affected | |
| 09:44:01 | sean-k-mooney | ya we ment to revret that after FF but before the final RC and didnt get around to it | |
| 09:44:46 | sean-k-mooney | by revert i mean do what the patch im now backporting does of keep one job with uec images for coverage but go back to qcow for the rest | |
| 10:07:24 | elodilles | sean-k-mooney: sorry for the late response, so about the skip test patch: it's OK to have it separately, maybe a 'related-bug' would be good, but it is good as it is | |
| 10:25:47 | sean-k-mooney | elodilles: ack thanks i can add that to the backports sure | |
| 10:26:29 | sean-k-mooney | i think it merged on master lastnight and i have not created the cherry picks yet so ill do that shortly | |
| 10:28:48 | elodilles | +1 | |
| 13:59:45 | mnaser | elodilles: sorry to ping here but I dont se you in glance :) do you mind kicking https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/923310 in and I can work on getting the rest to pass and ready to +W | |
| 14:30:29 | elodilles | mnaser: let me answer at the glance channel o:) | |
| 15:58:30 | melwitt | sean-k-mooney: this is lame and late but fyi I proposed the spec about a config option for being able to treat missing or zero unified limits for resources as unlimited https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/923807 | |
| 15:59:05 | melwitt | and super basic WIP code https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp/unified-limits-nova-zero-as-unlimited%22 | |
| 17:51:38 | sean-k-mooney | melwitt: :) better late then never, do you think it could happen thsi cycle or should we premetivly mvoe that to 2025.1 | |
| 17:51:51 | sean-k-mooney | or backlog i guess | |
| 17:54:55 | melwitt | sean-k-mooney: I think this cycle. unless I'm massively missing something about it 😛 | |
| 17:55:29 | sean-k-mooney | thats more a question of do you think we cna do that and your other feature but if you think we can review both im not agiasnt doign that now | |
| 17:55:44 | sean-k-mooney | i would love to see us make unifed limits the default in 2025.1 | |
| 17:55:52 | sean-k-mooney | so making incremental progress to that is good | |
| 17:55:53 | melwitt | the WIP code is all it should take but perhaps people will find other issues about it | |
| 17:56:25 | sean-k-mooney | oh cool i have not looked at that btu the fact it exists is promising | |
| 17:57:03 | sean-k-mooney | yoru not refering to the oslo.limits poc right, you have a nova poc for this | |
| 17:57:14 | sean-k-mooney | ah https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/923813 | |
| 17:57:58 | melwitt | it should be only two patches, one for nova-manage limits migrate_to_unified_limits (to make it give more information like advice on what limits need to be created after running it) and one patch to check the config option and consider none/zero limit as unlimited if configured | |
| 17:58:08 | sean-k-mooney | hum that is not quite what i was expecting but it proably would work | |
| 17:59:14 | sean-k-mooney | i have not read the spec yet but i was expecting somethign like, ask keystone for all limit it supprot then check only those limits | |
| 17:59:31 | melwitt | ok, if you can add a comment on the spec or patch I can potentially change it. I proposed what first came to my mind | |
| 17:59:46 | sean-k-mooney | insead of "oh i got zero ignore if config option is set" | |
| 18:00:00 | melwitt | ah ok. that might work too, have to try it | |
| 18:00:28 | sean-k-mooney | so i guess there is only one edge case that matters | |
| 18:00:50 | sean-k-mooney | what happens in these two cases | |
| 18:01:01 | sean-k-mooney | i recuest a resouce and no limit is defied | |
| 18:01:10 | sean-k-mooney | i request a resouce and its defied as 0 | |
| 18:04:10 | sean-k-mooney | with your code i think those will be treated the same | |
| 18:04:23 | sean-k-mooney | but im not sure if they should be | |
| 18:06:09 | sean-k-mooney | imo i think no limit defiend shoudl be unlimeted and limit defied as 0 mean you can not use it. | |
| 18:06:20 | sean-k-mooney | but i know others had different views | |
| 18:08:13 | sean-k-mooney | melwitt: ill refect on your spec but not tonight, probaly friday | |
| 18:08:55 | sean-k-mooney | but thats what my intition expects i just dont recall all the context | |
| 18:09:44 | sean-k-mooney | if we take the approch im suggesting im not even sure it requries a cofnig option beyond the quota driver | |
| 18:10:25 | sean-k-mooney | since registering the limits with 0 or any value starts enforcing that limit | |
| 18:11:22 | sean-k-mooney | although i could see use wanting this to be explict too in case anywone is currently using the unifed limits driver in production | |
| 18:32:52 | opendevreview | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova stable/2024.1: fix qemu-img version dependent tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/923878 | |
| 18:51:47 | melwitt | sean-k-mooney: sorry, was on a call. yeah, I hear you. where I'm coming from ultimately is I'm concerned about the fallout potentially of when we switch the default to unified limits. I keep envisioning the scenario where as soon as they install or upgrade, all server creates start failing because they forgot or missed setting one limit | |
| 18:52:32 | melwitt | so at the core of it I want to prevent operator pain and I'm sure there's other ways to handle it that I haven't thought of | |
| 18:55:39 | sean-k-mooney | yep i want systems to more or less "just work" when we switch but i dont think we shoudl force peole to define limtis for things that previously coudl not have a limit | |
| 18:56:14 | sean-k-mooney | so that why im usggeting treating no registered limit as unlimited and registered with 0 as not allowed | |
| 18:56:26 | sean-k-mooney | or over quota when you try ot request one of that thing | |
| 18:57:09 | sean-k-mooney | the problem of couse if if we do that when we change the default everythign becomes unlimited | |
| 18:57:19 | sean-k-mooney | unless you run the migration tool | |
| 18:57:26 | melwitt | sean-k-mooney: ok, yeah that makes sense | |
| 18:57:39 | melwitt | yeah :/ | |
| 18:57:42 | sean-k-mooney | i think thats where the idea was if any limti is regesterd | |
| 18:57:50 | sean-k-mooney | then we know they have started configuring it | |
| 18:57:51 | melwitt | ah, right | |
| 18:58:14 | sean-k-mooney | so there are 3 cases. no limits at all -> they didnt migrate | |
| 18:58:34 | sean-k-mooney | there are some registered limits -> only those resocue classes are enforced | |
| 18:58:52 | sean-k-mooney | all resources classes in the request have limits -> all are enforced | |
| 18:59:14 | melwitt | that makes sense | |
| 19:03:03 | sean-k-mooney | your patch treats no limit and limit of 0 as the same. so that is simpler then i was suggesting above | |
| 19:03:21 | sean-k-mooney | im not sure if that is enough or if we need the extra complexity of above | |
| 19:16:46 | melwitt | sean-k-mooney: it's likely oversimplified ... I thought of it because oslo.limit literally returns 0 for no limit, and doing something smarter will need additional keystone API calls. but not being able to differentiate between intentionally 0 and not is probably too restricting | |
| 19:33:01 | sean-k-mooney | i think an extra call while not ideall is ok | |
| 19:33:17 | sean-k-mooney | espciclaly if its opt in vai a cofnig option and you can turn it off once your fully upgraded | |
| 19:33:30 | sean-k-mooney | its like the placement fallback query | |
| 19:33:44 | sean-k-mooney | for pcpus as vcpus | |
| 19:35:14 | melwitt | yeah. although making it opt in means the default behavior will be the "if you missed anything everything fails until you fix it" | |
| 19:36:43 | sean-k-mooney | i was thinking opt out for this release and deprecate it next release then drop it in 2025.2 | |
| 19:37:27 | sean-k-mooney | so thise release old quota driver by default and opt out if you use unified limit | |
| 19:37:53 | sean-k-mooney | next release default to unifed limits and deprecat the extra option in the slurp | |
| 19:38:17 | sean-k-mooney | 2025.2 or later drop the config and extra query | |
| 19:38:35 | sean-k-mooney | that makes 2025.1 the cross over release where most will upgrade to unified limtis | |
| 19:38:48 | sean-k-mooney | im not sure if that is too fast or not | |
| 19:40:06 | melwitt | hm, yeah. not sure | |
| 20:29:19 | sean-k-mooney | do you think it would take much to poc the limt checking approch like you did with the 0 as unlimited patch | |
| 20:29:42 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. with the extra api call so we can compare and contrast | |
| 20:30:10 | sean-k-mooney | im not saying no to what you propsoed but im wondering how easy it is to do one vs the other | |